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Join Date: Jan 2002
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Could this be a case of the biggest waste of celluoid?
Freddy vs. Jason
Is this trip really necessary? What could be the motive behind this drek (other then the obvious $$$)? What's going to be next? Luke vs. Alien? |
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Re: Could this be a case of the biggest waste of celluoid?
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Re: Could this be a case of the biggest waste of celluoid?
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Now I have the mental image of Luke Skywalker facing down the alien queen stuck in my mind: "No. I am your mother."
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Critical Thinker
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I am officially making the following prediction about this movie:
The trailer is going to be awesome. The movie is going to suck. That oughta do it. Seriously, how will this end? Jason wins? Freddie wins? They tie? Some third party comes in and kicks both their butts? They team up and take over the world? Maybe they get into politics or start a school for the blind. But yes, you're right, if this movie makes $$$ we can look forward to all kinds of rip-offs. |
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And how about Michael Myers? He was first, wasn't he? |
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Continually pushing the boundaries of mediocrity. Everything is possible, but not everything is probable. For if a man pretend to me that God hath spoken to him supernaturally, and immediately, and I make doubt of it, I cannot easily perceive what argument he can produce to oblige me to believe it. Hobbes |
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Re: Re: Could this be a case of the biggest waste of celluoid?
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My prediction? They both die, but their bodies are never found. (Cue spooky music...)
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Hollywood is totally bereft of creativity. I'm not sure of the number, but most of the movies in the last 5 to 10 years have been rehashes or part 2's of other "successful" movies.
Charlie (movies, they're a business, not an art form) Monoxide |
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Malleus Malefactorum
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On the same note, "Aliens vs Preadtor" is actually going to be made sometime in the near future. I'll be the first in line for that one.
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Georgia's board of education approved the plan that allows teachers to keep using the word 'Evolution' when teaching biology. Though, as a compromise, dinosaurs are now called 'Jesus Horses.'--Jimmy Fallon on Weekend Update "I mean, if you buy into a religion, you're pretty much kissing good by(sic) critical thinking, aren't you?" --Riddick. Amen to that, brother. Gamers! Ultimate RPG Thread has a new home at skepticalcommunity! Check it out! |
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I actually rather enjoyed the first F13. I mean sure, it was a silly horror movie, but it was creative enough, especially since I did NOT know the 'twist' beforehand. I didn't even think to guess at it, since I was expecting...
spoiler here: Jason to be the bad guy, as in the later movies, which I HAD seen. It was cool that he was not. Spoiler over. I don't think Jason vs. Freddy can even possibly be worse than Jason X, where Jason is re-animated in the far future on a space ship. |
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I just went to the Freddy vs. Jason page on imdb. Not to give anything away, but Freddy gets 1st billing while Jason gets 6th, behind such luminaries as Kelly Rowland, formerly of Destiny's Child and Jason Ritter, who is quite possibly John Ritter's son. Also, it is produced by New Line Cinema, who produced all of the Freddy movies, but only two Jason movies.
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Georgia's board of education approved the plan that allows teachers to keep using the word 'Evolution' when teaching biology. Though, as a compromise, dinosaurs are now called 'Jesus Horses.'--Jimmy Fallon on Weekend Update "I mean, if you buy into a religion, you're pretty much kissing good by(sic) critical thinking, aren't you?" --Riddick. Amen to that, brother. Gamers! Ultimate RPG Thread has a new home at skepticalcommunity! Check it out! |
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Continually pushing the boundaries of mediocrity. Everything is possible, but not everything is probable. For if a man pretend to me that God hath spoken to him supernaturally, and immediately, and I make doubt of it, I cannot easily perceive what argument he can produce to oblige me to believe it. Hobbes |
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by JesFine $$$$$$$$$$$ The End. |
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At least, that was the rumor I heard. ![]() Oh, also, it is the first time I have been in the #1 grossing box office movie. I would like to thank the academy. |
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It was also a very successful comic. Freddy vs Jason, though? What the hell is this, "Death Match Schlock Horror Villians Wrestling"? Will Hulk Hogan get in the cage with the two of them? |
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![]() Well, I haven't seen it yet, but I was filmed for it. I may have ended up on the cutting room floor. The best I can hope for is 3 seconds of air time, from either too far away to really make me out, or from the knees down. Either way I am taking full credit for the success of the movie, and passing the buck on the quality of it. |
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Don't know if this is the biggest waste, some of us are waiting for Mel Gibson's Jesus vs. Adam Sandler's Little Nicky....
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Join Date: Nov 2001
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I want to see the winner of Freddy vs. Jason take on Buffy!
The Buffster would mop the floor with either of them! |
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Thinker
Join Date: Oct 2002
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Biggest waste of celluloid?
I thought that title had recently been claime by "Gigli."
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Critical Thinker
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Gigli might actually be a good rental, in that MST3K kind of way... (edited to add) I dont' know about Predator vs. Alien, but I *have* seen this cinematic masterpiece:http://www.theforce.net/theater/shor...atman_deadend/ |
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I'm going to be more assertive today - if that's OK with you... 99 multi-tentacled demon gods on the wall, 99 multi-tentacled demon gods, If one of those Chthulus should happen to fall, 98 multi-tentacled demon gods on the wall |
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I can't wait to see it. I grew up on that stuff. After Fridat the 13th part 3 it seemed all there was to do was check out what new way they came up with to have Jason murder people, some were quite creative. Some were brutal, others invoked physical comedy, although the punch line was usually a decapitation.
But, I mean c'mon. The triple decap of the paintball guys in part 5, the picking up the sleeping bag with the person in it and slamming it into the tree resulting in a broken back in part 6 (I think), the girls face pushed through the metal door on a camper and the metal stretching into the shape of her face, the double spear impalement of the humping couple in part 2, the guy who gets run through with the metal pole while he's in the porta-potty, I could go on... I don't want any of this Scream-I know what you did last summer self-referential ironic crap. I want over the top, goofy, porno violence. And boobies! At least two sets of bare boobies, bare minimum. And shortly after I see those boobies the girls wearing them need to be disembowled with farming equipment as they run naked through the woods. And if Jason and Freddy fight somewhere in there, that's cool too. |
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O' beautiful, for spacious skies But now those skies are threatening They're beating plowshares into swords For this tired old man that we elected king Armchair warriors often fail And we've been poisoned by these fairy tales The lawyers clean up all details Since daddy had to lie -Don Henley |
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![]() By any chance did you like the Final Destination movies? Just watched them again this weekend with my nephews. They loved it. |
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So many cults, not enough comets. A child of 5 could understand this! Quick, someone fetch a child of 5! "Scientology is evil; its techniques are evil; its practice is a serious threat to the community, medically, morally, and socially; and its adherents are sadly deluded and often mentally ill... (Scientology is) the world's largest organization of unqualified persons engaged in the practice of dangerous techniques which masquerade as mental therapy." Justice Anderson, Supreme Court of Victoria, Australia |
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O' beautiful, for spacious skies But now those skies are threatening They're beating plowshares into swords For this tired old man that we elected king Armchair warriors often fail And we've been poisoned by these fairy tales The lawyers clean up all details Since daddy had to lie -Don Henley |
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I saw "House of 1000 Corpses" by Rob Zombie. It was self referential without the LOOKIT ME! LOOKIT MMEEEEEEEEEEEE! of Scream. It also had a killer klown. Gotta love any movie with a gen-ew-wine killer klown.
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Hell. I'm looking forward to Jeepers Creepers 2.
When I saw the first one I thought, wow, someone made a real straight forward horror movie for a change. The bad guy even won. Everyone else thought it sucked. |
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O' beautiful, for spacious skies But now those skies are threatening They're beating plowshares into swords For this tired old man that we elected king Armchair warriors often fail And we've been poisoned by these fairy tales The lawyers clean up all details Since daddy had to lie -Don Henley |
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On the other hand the four kids in question were so annoying that as each one was offed, the movie got 25% better. |
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Location: Canada, eh?
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"In this corner, with over 1200 kills, hailing from Crystal lake, is Jason." "And in this corner, with over 1300kills, hailing from Death Valley, is Freddy." |
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Trust me, I know what I'm doing. - Sledgehammer I cheered when then the WTC came down. - UndercoverElephant (a.k.a. JustGeoff) I cheer Bin Laden... - JustGeoff (a.k.a. UndercoverElephant) Bin Laden delivered justice - JustGeoff (a.k.a. UndercoverElephant) Men shop for lingerie the way kids shop for breakfast cereal... they will buy something they know nothing about, just to get the prize inside. - Jeff Foxworthy |
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Trust me, I know what I'm doing. - Sledgehammer I cheered when then the WTC came down. - UndercoverElephant (a.k.a. JustGeoff) I cheer Bin Laden... - JustGeoff (a.k.a. UndercoverElephant) Bin Laden delivered justice - JustGeoff (a.k.a. UndercoverElephant) Men shop for lingerie the way kids shop for breakfast cereal... they will buy something they know nothing about, just to get the prize inside. - Jeff Foxworthy |
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Ok, I'm rooting for Freddy, though I expect the film to end in some kind of tie/fight unfinnished/unkown result. |
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So many cults, not enough comets. A child of 5 could understand this! Quick, someone fetch a child of 5! "Scientology is evil; its techniques are evil; its practice is a serious threat to the community, medically, morally, and socially; and its adherents are sadly deluded and often mentally ill... (Scientology is) the world's largest organization of unqualified persons engaged in the practice of dangerous techniques which masquerade as mental therapy." Justice Anderson, Supreme Court of Victoria, Australia |
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Last I read (don't ask) they promised a definitive winner.
Definately the kind of movie to catch when it comes out on cable (whether it's godawful or merely bad). No way I'm going to a theater for it. |
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Georgia's board of education approved the plan that allows teachers to keep using the word 'Evolution' when teaching biology. Though, as a compromise, dinosaurs are now called 'Jesus Horses.'--Jimmy Fallon on Weekend Update "I mean, if you buy into a religion, you're pretty much kissing good by(sic) critical thinking, aren't you?" --Riddick. Amen to that, brother. Gamers! Ultimate RPG Thread has a new home at skepticalcommunity! Check it out! |
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