If 'water memory' was an actual phenomena...

athon · 12th April 2007, 09:15 PM

Imagine the real consequences! It always surprises me how narrowly focussed the homeopaths who believe in water memory are. Cold and flu remedies? Stuff that for a game of soldiers; how about

water-based memories for mechanical or biomechanical devices?
a forensics test kit that analyses water for its history?
a diagnostics test for pathology?

Anything else?

Athon

JoeTheJuggler · 12th April 2007, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by athon

Anything else?

How about unimaginably expensive water treatment plants to give us plain old water without all sorts of unpredictable effects caused by all the memory it's picked up throughout the water cycle?

(A related thought--when does the magic water lose its magic and why? When the bottle is open and all sorts of airborne contaminants at solutions stronger than the remedy enter the water? When it touches your mouth and comes in contact with enzymes, organisms and what have you? After it's filtered in the kidneys? When it's peed out? When it's incorporated into your body tissue or cells?)

rjh01 · 13th April 2007, 02:06 AM

No! You have it all wrong! Water only retains a memory when it is treated in the right way. This means shaking it vigorously by a qualified person in the right way. In this way water will retain a memory. Otherwise it will not have any memory.

But even then we could have computers with enormous memory!

Capsid · 13th April 2007, 02:13 AM

Originally Posted by athon

Anything else?

Athon

Urine/sweat analysis to determine what an individual might have eaten/drunk/inhaled for police forensic work?

Cuddles · 13th April 2007, 07:19 AM

Hmm, logically, if water retains the memory of things that were shaken in it that means we could shake a person in water and it will keep their memories. When I die I'm going to come back as a swimming pool.

trvlr2 · 13th April 2007, 07:45 AM

Originally Posted by athon

Imagine the real consequences! It always surprises me how narrowly focussed the homeopaths who believe in water memory are. Cold and flu remedies? Stuff that for a game of soldiers; how about

water-based memories for mechanical or biomechanical devices?
a forensics test kit that analyses water for its history?
a diagnostics test for pathology?

Anything else?

Athon

Certainly. If water retained the memory of the container it was shaken with , we could stack it better.
Think what this would have meant to the Katrina victims...

Big Al · 13th April 2007, 08:09 AM

At least you could get forensic data from go-go dancers, jackhammer operators, long-distance runners and boxers.

I don't know what percentage of serial killers fall into these categories, though.

What happens to peed-out homeopathic substances that go through the water processing system and then end up entering the homeopathic loop again? It could cause all sorts of terrible side effects! Somebody tell the drug authorities!

HOMEOPATHIC MELTDOWN!

Baron Samedi · 13th April 2007, 08:30 AM

Originally Posted by rjh01

No! You have it all wrong! Water only retains a memory when it is treated in the right way. This means shaking it vigorously by a qualified person in the right way. In this way water will retain a memory. Otherwise it will not have any memory.

But even then we could have computers with enormous memory!

You forgot that water can also retain memory of shaken by giant machines which have been blessed by these qualified persons! Or machines which may have been purchased by blessed people. Or containers which had perhaps at some point may have been thought about by blessed persons. Or if the building the machine is located in has been blessed -- but not the warehouse next door. Too many negative vibes from people who think this water mixing thing is silly.

JoeTheJuggler · 13th April 2007, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by rjh01

No! You have it all wrong! Water only retains a memory when it is treated in the right way. This means shaking it vigorously by a qualified person in the right way. In this way water will retain a memory. Otherwise it will not have any memory.

Which is why people shipping and handling homeopathics take great pains to avoid shaking the remedies (which are certainly contaminated with molecules of any number of other substances by the time they're packaged). Oh. . . .they don't?

noryl · 13th April 2007, 11:49 PM

If water has all this memory, think of the applications in computing technology!
Take your average swimming pool, throw a processor in there and its directly connected to the memory on all sides. The data transfer rate would be only limited by the megahertz of the cpu!
Think of how easy it would be to add more memory!
Upgrading your hardware? Get your pool net, fish out the old components and throw in the new ones!

Laptops would be 24 oz water bottles with a blackberry type keyboard on the side!

athon · 14th April 2007, 12:11 AM

Amazing how silliness begets silliness. The whole 'shaking' or potentising thing is just another layer of absurdity on the 'water memory' concept.

I wonder what transferring somebody's spinal fluid might do...

Athon

Dark Jaguar · 14th April 2007, 04:54 AM

I've always thought that using water as a rewritable storage device would be getting major research for this sort of thing. I'd be the first to correct any notion that anyone in the hardware industry would actually want to prevent rather than fund such research.

Georg · 14th April 2007, 06:58 AM

Originally Posted by athon

Anything else?

Athon

Following the post of noryl: data transport across the sea(s). Why put monstrous cables on the sea bottom if the water itself could carry the information? Internet, phone connections and so on…..

Eos of the Eons · 14th April 2007, 08:07 AM

Well, we also know memories can fail. What are the consequences if water memory fracs up completely, or forgets half of what it knows?

Oh noooooooo!!

I'm still looking for the little brains in water where memory is stored. Not sure if I should be looking at the oxygen or hydrogen molecules. Any suggestions? I've failed very miserably.

But this crappola works! If you pretend to ignore all the times it fails, that is.

Soapy Sam · 14th April 2007, 04:25 PM

Is water's memory storage infinite? Or is it reset by some process?

If infinite, where is all the information coming from? Is it being extracted from the ambient universe, or actually created in the water?

Created memory? ..hmm?

What happens when the water is absorbed into an organic body? Do my cells remember being a duck?

What about water of crystallisation? (Surely the best candidate for memorable water). Does a rock remember being in the ocean?

Can this memory be interrogated? Can we regenerate a T-Rex from a teaspoon of seawater?

What happens when water evaporates? Does water vapour retain the memory? If not- where does the information go? Can we learn about chemistry by putting our head (covered with a suitable cloth) over a bowl of steaming water and inhaling the vapour?

If a hom solution of silica is put in a glass bottle, it may actually absorb more Si02 molecules from the glass than are in it to start with. Does this decrease the effect? If so, should the patient drink less?

Funny, once you start running your brain backwards, it starts to gather momentum. Can this be why homoeopaths find it so hard to stop?

Eos of the Eons · 14th April 2007, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by Soapy Sam

What about water of crystallisation? (Surely the best candidate for memorable water). Does a rock remember being in the ocean?

Okay okay, we have to draw the line at woater crystallizing into rocks.

But hey, if you're a homeopath, or even a chiropractor, you can start to imagine all sorts of things! There is no reality, only the empty recesses of a limitless brain cavity after you learn about these things.

In this warped zone you can do anything! Just like with the secret, whatever you can possibly imagine can become reality in that recess from actual reality.

So, ice can become a crystal rock at the bottom of the ocean that remembers how to cure arsenic poison if it ever came into contact with arsenic!

I must patent this new discovery and sell it on the internet asap! Somebody has already cornered the market on crystal rock lamps... I must make something very perty with my detoxifying water crystals... hmmm

There are plenty of chiropractors I can sell them to.

Soapy Sam · 14th April 2007, 04:45 PM

The crystal rock lamps are mostly Permian rock salt. Their desire for new memories is so great that they soak up water from the air around them, learning all the while. After a couple of years, they shatter due to information overload, thus guaranteeing steady sales.

The problem with ice is getting it to stay on the bottom of the ocean long enough to turn into rock crystal, it having this distressing tendency to float...must be trapped there by quantum plate tectonics! See? This science stuff is easy once you get your brain in reverse.

Eos of the Eons · 14th April 2007, 05:04 PM

No no, once ice becomes a crystal rock, it lies there, gathering more water rock around it, so it becomes big enough to turn into something perty. I just haven't imagined perty what yet, so don't go around trying to pick them up. I have to imagine the shape and dimensions into existence first, and they'll already be patented by then too. AND shakeable!

Quantum plate tectonics huh? I think I'll make up TACtonics. My brilliant imagination will once again become something marketable to physicists. If they don't think it's brilliant, then I'll just tell everyone the nasty scientists are trying to stifle yet another great discovery. Everybody will buy that book, you know, the one on detoxifying water rock crystals and quantum plate tactonics.

Mwa haaaa!

oof, it looks like the grammar gets bad when your mind starts to run in reverse logic too.

JoeTheJuggler · 15th April 2007, 12:11 AM

And let's not forget the wonderful memory capabilities of lactose for the dry homeopathic remedies.

Deetee · 15th April 2007, 12:34 AM

You listening out there, Jobs??
You can create iPods with the capacity to store a billion gigs worth of songs on a single wafer of lactose. In fact, as many songs as there are molecules in the universe. Which means all the combined works of the Beatles and the Stones on one iPod.

Rolfe · 15th April 2007, 04:37 AM

<pedant mode>Just the obligatory note that "phenomena" is a plural word. The singular form is "phenomenon".</pedant mode>

Rolfe.

Baron Samedi · 15th April 2007, 07:38 AM

Originally Posted by Soapy Sam

Is water's memory storage infinite? Or is it reset by some process?

If infinite, where is all the information coming from? Is it being extracted from the ambient universe, or actually created in the water?

Created memory? ..hmm?

What happens when the water is absorbed into an organic body? Do my cells remember being a duck?

What about water of crystallisation? (Surely the best candidate for memorable water). Does a rock remember being in the ocean?

Can this memory be interrogated? Can we regenerate a T-Rex from a teaspoon of seawater?

What happens when water evaporates? Does water vapour retain the memory? If not- where does the information go? Can we learn about chemistry by putting our head (covered with a suitable cloth) over a bowl of steaming water and inhaling the vapour?

If a hom solution of silica is put in a glass bottle, it may actually absorb more Si02 molecules from the glass than are in it to start with. Does this decrease the effect? If so, should the patient drink less?

Funny, once you start running your brain backwards, it starts to gather momentum. Can this be why homoeopaths find it so hard to stop?

Hey, I think you're on to something. If this is true, maybe this explains the whole "reptilian brain" and the secrets of the Illuminati. People have been cursed (or blessed) with too much water affected with dinosaur vibrations! Because, as you know, each time the water is diluted, the effect becomes stronger. With dinosaurs, we have millions and millions of years worth of dilutions!

Big Al · 16th April 2007, 07:32 AM

Sorry, Baron S. Homeopathic dinosaur essence from a vicious T. rex would turn you into a complete pacifist wimp. In France, they drink a lot of unprocessed bottled water. I wonder...

Cuddles · 16th April 2007, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by athon

I wonder what transferring somebody's spinal fluid might do...

Hurt.

Soapy Sam · 16th April 2007, 06:59 PM

The phenomenons of Autumn sound with a monotonous langour...

Hey- given we're so good at this woo horsefeathers- how come we're not rich?

trvlr2 · 16th April 2007, 07:04 PM

Inability to pitch "woo" with a straight face?

athon · 16th April 2007, 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by Rolfe

<pedant mode>Just the obligatory note that "phenomena" is a plural word. The singular form is "phenomenon".</pedant mode>

Rolfe.

The curse of not being able to edit headings. As soon as I posted it I was kicking myself over this typo.

Thanks anyway.

Athon

rjh01 · 17th April 2007, 05:29 AM

Originally Posted by athon

The curse of not being able to edit headings. As soon as I posted it I was kicking myself over this typo.

Thanks anyway.

Athon

Actually you can edit headings. Just go into advanced edit mode. You have only limited time. Not sure if there any other restrictions.

Go to the test forum and try it.

Charlie in Dayton · 18th April 2007, 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by rjh01

No! You have it all wrong! Water only retains a memory when it is treated in the right way. This means shaking it vigorously by a qualified person in the right way. In this way water will retain a memory. Otherwise it will not have any memory.

But even then we could have computers with enormous memory!

Having it shaken vigorously by a qualified person in the right way is illegal under at least six statutes around here...

JoeTheJuggler · 19th April 2007, 12:27 AM

Originally Posted by Charlie in Dayton

Having it shaken vigorously by a qualified person in the right way is illegal under at least six statutes around here...

<in my best Bill Clinton voice>Well that depends on what the meaning of "it" is.

12th April 2007, 09:15 PM	#1
athon Kowalski Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: gone Posts: 9,286	If 'water memory' was an actual phenomena... Imagine the real consequences! It always surprises me how narrowly focussed the homeopaths who believe in water memory are. Cold and flu remedies? Stuff that for a game of soldiers; how about water-based memories for mechanical or biomechanical devices? a forensics test kit that analyses water for its history? a diagnostics test for pathology? Anything else? Athon

12th April 2007, 09:23 PM	#2
JoeTheJuggler Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: St. Louis Posts: 26,696	Originally Posted by athon Anything else? How about unimaginably expensive water treatment plants to give us plain old water without all sorts of unpredictable effects caused by all the memory it's picked up throughout the water cycle? (A related thought--when does the magic water lose its magic and why? When the bottle is open and all sorts of airborne contaminants at solutions stronger than the remedy enter the water? When it touches your mouth and comes in contact with enzymes, organisms and what have you? After it's filtered in the kidneys? When it's peed out? When it's incorporated into your body tissue or cells?)
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13th April 2007, 02:06 AM	#3
rjh01 Gentleman of leisure Tagger Join Date: May 2005 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 17,172	No! You have it all wrong! Water only retains a memory when it is treated in the right way. This means shaking it vigorously by a qualified person in the right way. In this way water will retain a memory. Otherwise it will not have any memory. But even then we could have computers with enormous memory!
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13th April 2007, 02:13 AM	#4
Capsid Graduate Poster Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,506	Originally Posted by athon Anything else? Athon Urine/sweat analysis to determine what an individual might have eaten/drunk/inhaled for police forensic work?
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13th April 2007, 07:19 AM	#5
Cuddles Decoy Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: A magical land full of pink fluffy sheeps and bunnies Posts: 16,568	Hmm, logically, if water retains the memory of things that were shaken in it that means we could shake a person in water and it will keep their memories. When I die I'm going to come back as a swimming pool.
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13th April 2007, 07:45 AM	#6
trvlr2 Muse Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sunny Florida Posts: 799	Originally Posted by athon Imagine the real consequences! It always surprises me how narrowly focussed the homeopaths who believe in water memory are. Cold and flu remedies? Stuff that for a game of soldiers; how about water-based memories for mechanical or biomechanical devices? a forensics test kit that analyses water for its history? a diagnostics test for pathology? Anything else? Athon Certainly. If water retained the memory of the container it was shaken with , we could stack it better. Think what this would have meant to the Katrina victims...
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13th April 2007, 08:09 AM	#7
Big Al Mage Questor Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: La-la Land Posts: 827	At least you could get forensic data from go-go dancers, jackhammer operators, long-distance runners and boxers. I don't know what percentage of serial killers fall into these categories, though. What happens to peed-out homeopathic substances that go through the water processing system and then end up entering the homeopathic loop again? It could cause all sorts of terrible side effects! Somebody tell the drug authorities! HOMEOPATHIC MELTDOWN!
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13th April 2007, 08:30 AM	#8
Baron Samedi Critical Thinker Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Kayfabe, Upper Canada Posts: 488	Originally Posted by rjh01 No! You have it all wrong! Water only retains a memory when it is treated in the right way. This means shaking it vigorously by a qualified person in the right way. In this way water will retain a memory. Otherwise it will not have any memory. But even then we could have computers with enormous memory! You forgot that water can also retain memory of shaken by giant machines which have been blessed by these qualified persons! Or machines which may have been purchased by blessed people. Or containers which had perhaps at some point may have been thought about by blessed persons. Or if the building the machine is located in has been blessed -- but not the warehouse next door. Too many negative vibes from people who think this water mixing thing is silly.

13th April 2007, 08:38 AM	#9
JoeTheJuggler Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: St. Louis Posts: 26,696	Originally Posted by rjh01 No! You have it all wrong! Water only retains a memory when it is treated in the right way. This means shaking it vigorously by a qualified person in the right way. In this way water will retain a memory. Otherwise it will not have any memory. Which is why people shipping and handling homeopathics take great pains to avoid shaking the remedies (which are certainly contaminated with molecules of any number of other substances by the time they're packaged). Oh. . . .they don't?
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13th April 2007, 11:49 PM	#10
noryl Scholar Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 79	water memory If water has all this memory, think of the applications in computing technology! Take your average swimming pool, throw a processor in there and its directly connected to the memory on all sides. The data transfer rate would be only limited by the megahertz of the cpu! Think of how easy it would be to add more memory! Upgrading your hardware? Get your pool net, fish out the old components and throw in the new ones! Laptops would be 24 oz water bottles with a blackberry type keyboard on the side!
noryl Scholar Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 79

14th April 2007, 12:11 AM	#11
athon Kowalski Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: gone Posts: 9,286	Amazing how silliness begets silliness. The whole 'shaking' or potentising thing is just another layer of absurdity on the 'water memory' concept. I wonder what transferring somebody's spinal fluid might do... Athon

14th April 2007, 04:54 AM	#12
Dark Jaguar Graduate Poster Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,666	I've always thought that using water as a rewritable storage device would be getting major research for this sort of thing. I'd be the first to correct any notion that anyone in the hardware industry would actually want to prevent rather than fund such research.

14th April 2007, 06:58 AM	#13
Georg Graduate Poster Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bavaria, Germany Posts: 1,333	Originally Posted by athon Anything else? Athon Following the post of noryl: data transport across the sea(s). Why put monstrous cables on the sea bottom if the water itself could carry the information? Internet, phone connections and so on…..

14th April 2007, 08:07 AM	#14
Eos of the Eons Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Alberta Posts: 13,894	Well, we also know memories can fail. What are the consequences if water memory fracs up completely, or forgets half of what it knows? Oh noooooooo!! I'm still looking for the little brains in water where memory is stored. Not sure if I should be looking at the oxygen or hydrogen molecules. Any suggestions? I've failed very miserably. But this crappola works! If you pretend to ignore all the times it fails, that is.
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14th April 2007, 04:25 PM	#15
Soapy Sam NLH Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 25,885	Is water's memory storage infinite? Or is it reset by some process? If infinite, where is all the information coming from? Is it being extracted from the ambient universe, or actually created in the water? Created memory? ..hmm? What happens when the water is absorbed into an organic body? Do my cells remember being a duck? What about water of crystallisation? (Surely the best candidate for memorable water). Does a rock remember being in the ocean? Can this memory be interrogated? Can we regenerate a T-Rex from a teaspoon of seawater? What happens when water evaporates? Does water vapour retain the memory? If not- where does the information go? Can we learn about chemistry by putting our head (covered with a suitable cloth) over a bowl of steaming water and inhaling the vapour? If a hom solution of silica is put in a glass bottle, it may actually absorb more Si02 molecules from the glass than are in it to start with. Does this decrease the effect? If so, should the patient drink less? Funny, once you start running your brain backwards, it starts to gather momentum. Can this be why homoeopaths find it so hard to stop?
Soapy Sam NLH Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 25,885

14th April 2007, 04:32 PM	#16
Eos of the Eons Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Alberta Posts: 13,894	Originally Posted by Soapy Sam What about water of crystallisation? (Surely the best candidate for memorable water). Does a rock remember being in the ocean? Okay okay, we have to draw the line at woater crystallizing into rocks. But hey, if you're a homeopath, or even a chiropractor, you can start to imagine all sorts of things! There is no reality, only the empty recesses of a limitless brain cavity after you learn about these things. In this warped zone you can do anything! Just like with the secret, whatever you can possibly imagine can become reality in that recess from actual reality. So, ice can become a crystal rock at the bottom of the ocean that remembers how to cure arsenic poison if it ever came into contact with arsenic! I must patent this new discovery and sell it on the internet asap! Somebody has already cornered the market on crystal rock lamps... I must make something very perty with my detoxifying water crystals... hmmm There are plenty of chiropractors I can sell them to.
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14th April 2007, 04:45 PM	#17
Soapy Sam NLH Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 25,885	The crystal rock lamps are mostly Permian rock salt. Their desire for new memories is so great that they soak up water from the air around them, learning all the while. After a couple of years, they shatter due to information overload, thus guaranteeing steady sales. The problem with ice is getting it to stay on the bottom of the ocean long enough to turn into rock crystal, it having this distressing tendency to float...must be trapped there by quantum plate tectonics! See? This science stuff is easy once you get your brain in reverse.
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14th April 2007, 05:04 PM	#18
Eos of the Eons Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Alberta Posts: 13,894	No no, once ice becomes a crystal rock, it lies there, gathering more water rock around it, so it becomes big enough to turn into something perty. I just haven't imagined perty what yet, so don't go around trying to pick them up. I have to imagine the shape and dimensions into existence first, and they'll already be patented by then too. AND shakeable! Quantum plate tectonics huh? I think I'll make up TACtonics. My brilliant imagination will once again become something marketable to physicists. If they don't think it's brilliant, then I'll just tell everyone the nasty scientists are trying to stifle yet another great discovery. Everybody will buy that book, you know, the one on detoxifying water rock crystals and quantum plate tactonics. Mwa haaaa! oof, it looks like the grammar gets bad when your mind starts to run in reverse logic too.
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15th April 2007, 12:11 AM	#19
JoeTheJuggler Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: St. Louis Posts: 26,696	And let's not forget the wonderful memory capabilities of lactose for the dry homeopathic remedies.
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15th April 2007, 12:34 AM	#20
Deetee Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,790	You listening out there, Jobs?? You can create iPods with the capacity to store a billion gigs worth of songs on a single wafer of lactose. In fact, as many songs as there are molecules in the universe. Which means all the combined works of the Beatles and the Stones on one iPod.
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15th April 2007, 04:37 AM	#21
Rolfe Anti-homeopathy illuminati member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NT 150 511 Posts: 34,320	<pedant mode>Just the obligatory note that "phenomena" is a plural word. The singular form is "phenomenon".</pedant mode> Rolfe.
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15th April 2007, 07:38 AM	#22
Baron Samedi Critical Thinker Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Kayfabe, Upper Canada Posts: 488	Originally Posted by Soapy Sam Is water's memory storage infinite? Or is it reset by some process? If infinite, where is all the information coming from? Is it being extracted from the ambient universe, or actually created in the water? Created memory? ..hmm? What happens when the water is absorbed into an organic body? Do my cells remember being a duck? What about water of crystallisation? (Surely the best candidate for memorable water). Does a rock remember being in the ocean? Can this memory be interrogated? Can we regenerate a T-Rex from a teaspoon of seawater? What happens when water evaporates? Does water vapour retain the memory? If not- where does the information go? Can we learn about chemistry by putting our head (covered with a suitable cloth) over a bowl of steaming water and inhaling the vapour? If a hom solution of silica is put in a glass bottle, it may actually absorb more Si02 molecules from the glass than are in it to start with. Does this decrease the effect? If so, should the patient drink less? Funny, once you start running your brain backwards, it starts to gather momentum. Can this be why homoeopaths find it so hard to stop? Hey, I think you're on to something. If this is true, maybe this explains the whole "reptilian brain" and the secrets of the Illuminati. People have been cursed (or blessed) with too much water affected with dinosaur vibrations! Because, as you know, each time the water is diluted, the effect becomes stronger. With dinosaurs, we have millions and millions of years worth of dilutions!

16th April 2007, 07:32 AM	#23
Big Al Mage Questor Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: La-la Land Posts: 827	Sorry, Baron S. Homeopathic dinosaur essence from a vicious T. rex would turn you into a complete pacifist wimp. In France, they drink a lot of unprocessed bottled water. I wonder...
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16th April 2007, 09:37 AM	#24
Cuddles Decoy Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: A magical land full of pink fluffy sheeps and bunnies Posts: 16,568	Originally Posted by athon I wonder what transferring somebody's spinal fluid might do... Hurt.
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16th April 2007, 06:59 PM	#25
Soapy Sam NLH Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 25,885	The phenomenons of Autumn sound with a monotonous langour... Hey- given we're so good at this woo horsefeathers- how come we're not rich?
Soapy Sam NLH Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 25,885

16th April 2007, 07:04 PM	#26
trvlr2 Muse Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sunny Florida Posts: 799	Inability to pitch "woo" with a straight face?
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16th April 2007, 08:43 PM	#27
athon Kowalski Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: gone Posts: 9,286	Originally Posted by Rolfe <pedant mode>Just the obligatory note that "phenomena" is a plural word. The singular form is "phenomenon".</pedant mode> Rolfe. The curse of not being able to edit headings. As soon as I posted it I was kicking myself over this typo. Thanks anyway. Athon

17th April 2007, 05:29 AM	#28
rjh01 Gentleman of leisure Tagger Join Date: May 2005 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 17,172	Originally Posted by athon The curse of not being able to edit headings. As soon as I posted it I was kicking myself over this typo. Thanks anyway. Athon Actually you can edit headings. Just go into advanced edit mode. You have only limited time. Not sure if there any other restrictions. Go to the test forum and try it.
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18th April 2007, 10:05 PM	#29
Charlie in Dayton Rabid radioactive stargazer and JREF kid Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 1,087	Originally Posted by rjh01 No! You have it all wrong! Water only retains a memory when it is treated in the right way. This means shaking it vigorously by a qualified person in the right way. In this way water will retain a memory. Otherwise it will not have any memory. But even then we could have computers with enormous memory! Having it shaken vigorously by a qualified person in the right way is illegal under at least six statutes around here...
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19th April 2007, 12:27 AM	#30
JoeTheJuggler Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: St. Louis Posts: 26,696	Originally Posted by Charlie in Dayton Having it shaken vigorously by a qualified person in the right way is illegal under at least six statutes around here... <in my best Bill Clinton voice>Well that depends on what the meaning of "it" is.
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