How Long is it until Humanity is extinct? - Page 3

BPSCG · 5th May 2007, 04:21 AM

Originally Posted by freudianlip

I'm still of half a mind that these VEHMT ('vomit') are surely being sarcastic! Please tell me ...it ain't so....!!!
Otherwise this section of the human race has served its last evolutionary mutation and is the prime reason for natural selection!

I can't connect to their page.

Perhaps they've gone and killed themselves?

freudianlip · 5th May 2007, 06:40 AM

Originally Posted by BPSCG

I can't connect to their page.

Perhaps they've gone and killed themselves?

No such luck dahling....

If you really want to be horrified try.......

Voluntary Human Extinction Movement
Movement offering humanitarian alternative to human disasters.

http://community.livejournal.com/vhemt/

Heres a taster from a linked forum;

If you do not agree that Earth's biosphere would be better off without Homo sapiens, and/or that creating more of us at this time can't be justified, we have two alternate lists for you:

You may freely post messages related to human breeding at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Why_breed and messages related to voluntary human extinction at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Why_VHEMT .

Thank you,
Les U. Knight

Heres a link to website they highly recommend;

http://www.speciesalliance.org/
This website cites scientific and media literature designed to reinforce the notion of global extinction due to.......of course...you......me.....humanity, but the notions from VEHMT are extremely concerning especially when you read the ethos and profiles of folk signing up....

Be Afraid...Be very.....very afraid.....
I would like to suggest to the Administration of JREF that some earnest research into these survival instinctively challenged and ethically bereft individuals would be a worthy endeavour...

freudianlip · 5th May 2007, 07:09 AM

Originally Posted by BPSCG

I can't connect to their page.

Perhaps they've gone and killed themselves?

We should pass zis infrmazion to ze' conspiraczee tearrorist, I mean theorists and ve' sall see if zey av' any ideas who haz put 'zeese VOMITZ offline...Hmmmmmmm??????????

Crazycowbob · 5th May 2007, 11:37 PM

Originally Posted by skeptigirl

Hey, we think alike.

Are you married?

Technically, untill the papers are finalized or whatever it is the courts do with the papers (written in triplicate, lost, found, sent to Madagascar, lost again, buried, and finally fed to the bugblatter beast of trowl...)

Originally Posted by skeptigirl

(on second thought, about those spiky things ...)

Hey, the spikey things are cool, and pretty and shiny and red!
Besides, I haven't had to stick any people on them yet...

Originally Posted by Nancarrow

I voted for 1000 years, for the same reason that Crazycowbob voted for 1 million years, except replace 'evolved' with 'transformed ourselves'. Evolution? That's so last year.

(changed my mind from 300 years. I'm sure we'll have the tech within 300 years, and I'm sure most humans will have made use of it, but the OP talks about the 'last human' and I guess there'll be a colony of latter-day Amish hanging out somewhere for a bit longer.)

Hadn't considered that, but that's assuming religious folks aren't against the idea, if they are, it may never be applied to the population as a whole.

freudianlip · 6th May 2007, 02:14 PM

Humanity can never stick to a deadline anyway!

BPSCG · 7th May 2007, 12:02 PM

Well, we'll become extinct when and if we can figure out how to destroy the Earth. And decide to do it.

Instruction manual here.

Quote:

Destroying the Earth is harder than you may have been led to believe.

You've seen the action movies where the bad guy threatens to destroy the Earth. You've heard people on the news claiming that the next nuclear war or cutting down rainforests or persisting in releasing hideous quantities of pollution into the atmosphere threatens to end the world.

Fools.

The Earth is built to last. It is a 4,550,000,000-year-old, 5,973,600,000,000,000,000,000-tonne ball of iron. It has taken more devastating asteroid hits in its lifetime than you've had hot dinners, and lo, it still orbits merrily. So my first piece of advice to you, dear would-be Earth-destroyer, is: do NOT think this will be easy.

This is not a guide for wusses whose aim is merely to wipe out humanity. I (Sam Hughes) can in no way guarantee the complete extinction of the human race via any of these methods, real or imaginary. Humanity is wily and resourceful, and many of the methods outlined below will take many years to even become available, let alone implement, by which time mankind may well have spread to other planets; indeed, other star systems. If total human genocide is your ultimate goal, you are reading the wrong document. There are far more efficient ways of doing this, many which are available and feasible RIGHT NOW. Nor is this a guide for those wanting to annihilate everything from single-celled life upwards, render Earth uninhabitable or simply conquer it. These are trivial goals in comparison.

This is a guide for those who do not want the Earth to be there anymore.

Piscivore · 7th May 2007, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by freudianlip

"If my decomposing carcass helps nourish the roots of a juniper tree or the wings of a vulture -- that is immortality enough for me."
--Edward Abbey

I want to go down in history as the one who eliminated the human race.

freudianlip · 7th May 2007, 12:28 PM

Well then, become the leader of VEHMT http://www.vhemt.org/

and initiate self destruct sequence #0012\0000000000000000000
or 42

Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze....

wahrheit · 7th May 2007, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by BPSCG

Well, we'll become extinct when and if we can figure out how to destroy the Earth. And decide to do it.

Instruction manual here.

A funny and interesting page, thanks for the link.

BPSCG · 7th May 2007, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by wahrheit

A funny and interesting page, thanks for the link.

See the kind of fun stuff you find by being a right(wing)-thinking American who reads the National Review blogs?

Piscivore · 7th May 2007, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by freudianlip

Well then, become the leader of VEHMT http://www.vhemt.org/

From their site:

Quote:

We're not just a bunch of misanthropes and anti-social, Malthusian misfits, taking morbid delight whenever disaster strikes humans.

Well, that leaves me out.

wahrheit · 7th May 2007, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by BPSCG

See the kind of fun stuff you find by being a right(wing)-thinking American who reads the National Review blogs?

Ugh! Silly me, I should have known better, replying something positive to a post by a well known rightwinger of the forum.

They'll expel me from the pinko commie librul club now.

BPSCG · 7th May 2007, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by wahrheit

They'll expel me from the pinko commie librul club now.

Don't think of it that way. Think of it as climbing one step up the food chain.

freudianlip · 7th May 2007, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by Piscivore

From their site:

Well, that leaves me out.

But it would be a great place to commence your elimination of the human race...maybe then you wouldn't have to exterminate the whole population just vehmt activists...

C'mon...infiltrate and Troll, see if their moderator will notice??

Ah Go ON... for the craic...

slingblade · 7th May 2007, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by BPSCG

See the kind of fun stuff you find by being a right(wing)-thinking American who reads the National Review blogs?

Or just by knowing one who will share his links?

Piscivore · 7th May 2007, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by freudianlip

But it would be a great place to commence your elimination of the human race...maybe then you wouldn't have to exterminate the whole population just vehmt activists...

C'mon...infiltrate and Troll, see if their moderator will notice??

Ah Go ON... for the craic...

See, though- when you start bringing collaborators and Quislings into your organisation you leave yourself wide open for double agents infiltrating, wannabe heroes sneaking in with the labourers- not to mention the possibility that key people will have a change of heart at the last, crucial minute. Try getting insurance coverage for that after you've had a claim once.

Besides, people like these guys are well meaning and talk a good game and all, but give them a gun and tell them to shoot their Nanna in the face to get out of the locked room, bury their girlfriend alive with a couple of rabid weasels and a walkie talkie, or drop them down a well with a bunch of hungry Japanese zombie girls and all of a sudden they discover this "newfound respect for life".

Bleah.

freudianlip · 7th May 2007, 05:01 PM

lmao

freudianlip · 7th May 2007, 05:11 PM

Archer: We came out here to stop the Xindi from destroying humanity. I'll be damned if I have a hand in destroying another race in the process. (Star Trek)
You will like this;

http://pushback.com/environment/EcoFreakQuotes.html

wonder if Pentti Linkola is including medical advances too, or will she keep a little thiothixene to keep her sentient??

Molinaro · 7th May 2007, 05:26 PM

I was hoping to find the option for Dec 31st 9999 because computers are for sure going to pee their pants with that y10k bug!

wahrheit · 7th May 2007, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by Molinaro

I was hoping to find the option for Dec 31st 9999 because computers are for sure going to pee their pants with that y10k bug!

100 years	5	5.88%
300 years	8	9.41%
1000 years	4	4.71%
5000 years	7	8.24%
10,000 years	6	7.06%
50,000 years	3	3.53%
100,000 years	9	10.59%
500,000 years	2	2.35%
1 million years	7	8.24%
1 billion years	3	3.53%
7 billion (Death of the Sun)	12	14.12%
Never	19	22.35%
Voters: 85. You may not vote on this poll

5th May 2007, 04:21 AM	#81
BPSCG Cannibal Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Looting Fafner's Cave Posts: 17,556	Originally Posted by freudianlip I'm still of half a mind that these VEHMT ('vomit') are surely being sarcastic! Please tell me ...it ain't so....!!! Otherwise this section of the human race has served its last evolutionary mutation and is the prime reason for natural selection! I can't connect to their page. Perhaps they've gone and killed themselves?
	__________________ Philanthropist (n.) - Someone who spends his own money to advance his version of Utopia. Socialist (n.) - Someone who spends your money to advance his version of Utopia.

5th May 2007, 06:40 AM	#82
freudianlip Critical Thinker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: laissez faire, pottymouth,EIRE Posts: 250	Originally Posted by BPSCG I can't connect to their page. Perhaps they've gone and killed themselves? No such luck dahling.... If you really want to be horrified try....... Voluntary Human Extinction Movement Movement offering humanitarian alternative to human disasters. http://community.livejournal.com/vhemt/ Heres a taster from a linked forum; If you do not agree that Earth's biosphere would be better off without Homo sapiens, and/or that creating more of us at this time can't be justified, we have two alternate lists for you: You may freely post messages related to human breeding at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Why_breed and messages related to voluntary human extinction at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Why_VHEMT . Thank you, Les U. Knight Heres a link to website they highly recommend; http://www.speciesalliance.org/ This website cites scientific and media literature designed to reinforce the notion of global extinction due to.......of course...you......me.....humanity, but the notions from VEHMT are extremely concerning especially when you read the ethos and profiles of folk signing up.... Be Afraid...Be very.....very afraid..... I would like to suggest to the Administration of JREF that some earnest research into these survival instinctively challenged and ethically bereft individuals would be a worthy endeavour...
	Last edited by freudianlip; 5th May 2007 at 07:11 AM.

5th May 2007, 11:37 PM	#84
Crazycowbob Bovine Overlord Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Lubbock, Texas Posts: 1,369	Originally Posted by skeptigirl Hey, we think alike. Are you married? Technically, untill the papers are finalized or whatever it is the courts do with the papers (written in triplicate, lost, found, sent to Madagascar, lost again, buried, and finally fed to the bugblatter beast of trowl...) Originally Posted by skeptigirl (on second thought, about those spiky things ...) Hey, the spikey things are cool, and pretty and shiny and red! Besides, I haven't had to stick any people on them yet... Originally Posted by Nancarrow I voted for 1000 years, for the same reason that Crazycowbob voted for 1 million years, except replace 'evolved' with 'transformed ourselves'. Evolution? That's so last year. (changed my mind from 300 years. I'm sure we'll have the tech within 300 years, and I'm sure most humans will have made use of it, but the OP talks about the 'last human' and I guess there'll be a colony of latter-day Amish hanging out somewhere for a bit longer.) Hadn't considered that, but that's assuming religious folks aren't against the idea, if they are, it may never be applied to the population as a whole.
	__________________ "Pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space, 'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth." Eric Idle, The Meaning of Life

7th May 2007, 12:02 PM	#86
BPSCG Cannibal Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Looting Fafner's Cave Posts: 17,556	Well, we'll become extinct when and if we can figure out how to destroy the Earth. And decide to do it. Instruction manual here. Quote: Destroying the Earth is harder than you may have been led to believe. You've seen the action movies where the bad guy threatens to destroy the Earth. You've heard people on the news claiming that the next nuclear war or cutting down rainforests or persisting in releasing hideous quantities of pollution into the atmosphere threatens to end the world. Fools. The Earth is built to last. It is a 4,550,000,000-year-old, 5,973,600,000,000,000,000,000-tonne ball of iron. It has taken more devastating asteroid hits in its lifetime than you've had hot dinners, and lo, it still orbits merrily. So my first piece of advice to you, dear would-be Earth-destroyer, is: do NOT think this will be easy. This is not a guide for wusses whose aim is merely to wipe out humanity. I (Sam Hughes) can in no way guarantee the complete extinction of the human race via any of these methods, real or imaginary. Humanity is wily and resourceful, and many of the methods outlined below will take many years to even become available, let alone implement, by which time mankind may well have spread to other planets; indeed, other star systems. If total human genocide is your ultimate goal, you are reading the wrong document. There are far more efficient ways of doing this, many which are available and feasible RIGHT NOW. Nor is this a guide for those wanting to annihilate everything from single-celled life upwards, render Earth uninhabitable or simply conquer it. These are trivial goals in comparison. This is a guide for those who do not want the Earth to be there anymore.
	__________________ Philanthropist (n.) - Someone who spends his own money to advance his version of Utopia. Socialist (n.) - Someone who spends your money to advance his version of Utopia.

5th May 2007, 07:09 AM	#83
freudianlip Critical Thinker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: laissez faire, pottymouth,EIRE Posts: 250	Originally Posted by BPSCG I can't connect to their page. Perhaps they've gone and killed themselves? We should pass zis infrmazion to ze' conspiraczee tearrorist, I mean theorists and ve' sall see if zey av' any ideas who haz put 'zeese VOMITZ offline...Hmmmmmmm??????????

6th May 2007, 02:14 PM	#85
freudianlip Critical Thinker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: laissez faire, pottymouth,EIRE Posts: 250	Humanity can never stick to a deadline anyway!

7th May 2007, 12:09 PM	#87
Piscivore Smelling fishy Join Date: May 2004 Location: Home is wherever I'm with you Posts: 26,484	Originally Posted by freudianlip "If my decomposing carcass helps nourish the roots of a juniper tree or the wings of a vulture -- that is immortality enough for me." --Edward Abbey I want to go down in history as the one who eliminated the human race.
	__________________ Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Take his fish away and tell him he's lucky just to be alive, and he'll figure out how to catch another one for you to take tomorrow. "...untrustworthy obnoxious twerp." - CFLarsen

7th May 2007, 12:28 PM	#88
freudianlip Critical Thinker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: laissez faire, pottymouth,EIRE Posts: 250	Well then, become the leader of VEHMT http://www.vhemt.org/ and initiate self destruct sequence #0012\0000000000000000000 or 42 Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze....

7th May 2007, 12:55 PM	#89
wahrheit Pac-Man Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 5,591	Originally Posted by BPSCG Well, we'll become extinct when and if we can figure out how to destroy the Earth. And decide to do it. Instruction manual here. A funny and interesting page, thanks for the link.
wahrheit Pac-Man Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 5,591	__________________ For a moment, nothing happened. Then, after a second or so, nothing continued to happen. D. Adams -- THHGTTG You're a sick man. The Atheist

7th May 2007, 01:45 PM	#90
BPSCG Cannibal Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Looting Fafner's Cave Posts: 17,556	Originally Posted by wahrheit A funny and interesting page, thanks for the link. See the kind of fun stuff you find by being a right(wing)-thinking American who reads the National Review blogs?
	__________________ Philanthropist (n.) - Someone who spends his own money to advance his version of Utopia. Socialist (n.) - Someone who spends your money to advance his version of Utopia.

7th May 2007, 01:59 PM	#91
Piscivore Smelling fishy Join Date: May 2004 Location: Home is wherever I'm with you Posts: 26,484	Originally Posted by freudianlip Well then, become the leader of VEHMT http://www.vhemt.org/ From their site: Quote: We're not just a bunch of misanthropes and anti-social, Malthusian misfits, taking morbid delight whenever disaster strikes humans. Well, that leaves me out.
	__________________ Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Take his fish away and tell him he's lucky just to be alive, and he'll figure out how to catch another one for you to take tomorrow. "...untrustworthy obnoxious twerp." - CFLarsen

7th May 2007, 02:27 PM	#92
wahrheit Pac-Man Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 5,591	Originally Posted by BPSCG See the kind of fun stuff you find by being a right(wing)-thinking American who reads the National Review blogs? Ugh! Silly me, I should have known better, replying something positive to a post by a well known rightwinger of the forum. They'll expel me from the pinko commie librul club now.
wahrheit Pac-Man Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 5,591	__________________ For a moment, nothing happened. Then, after a second or so, nothing continued to happen. D. Adams -- THHGTTG You're a sick man. The Atheist

7th May 2007, 03:33 PM	#93
BPSCG Cannibal Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Looting Fafner's Cave Posts: 17,556	Originally Posted by wahrheit They'll expel me from the pinko commie librul club now. Don't think of it that way. Think of it as climbing one step up the food chain.
	__________________ Philanthropist (n.) - Someone who spends his own money to advance his version of Utopia. Socialist (n.) - Someone who spends your money to advance his version of Utopia.

7th May 2007, 04:22 PM	#94
freudianlip Critical Thinker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: laissez faire, pottymouth,EIRE Posts: 250	Originally Posted by Piscivore From their site: Well, that leaves me out. But it would be a great place to commence your elimination of the human race...maybe then you wouldn't have to exterminate the whole population just vehmt activists... C'mon...infiltrate and Troll, see if their moderator will notice?? Ah Go ON... for the craic...

7th May 2007, 04:27 PM	#95
slingblade Guest Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 23,642	Originally Posted by BPSCG See the kind of fun stuff you find by being a right(wing)-thinking American who reads the National Review blogs? Or just by knowing one who will share his links?
slingblade Guest Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 23,642

7th May 2007, 04:52 PM	#96
Piscivore Smelling fishy Join Date: May 2004 Location: Home is wherever I'm with you Posts: 26,484	Originally Posted by freudianlip But it would be a great place to commence your elimination of the human race...maybe then you wouldn't have to exterminate the whole population just vehmt activists... C'mon...infiltrate and Troll, see if their moderator will notice?? Ah Go ON... for the craic... See, though- when you start bringing collaborators and Quislings into your organisation you leave yourself wide open for double agents infiltrating, wannabe heroes sneaking in with the labourers- not to mention the possibility that key people will have a change of heart at the last, crucial minute. Try getting insurance coverage for that after you've had a claim once. Besides, people like these guys are well meaning and talk a good game and all, but give them a gun and tell them to shoot their Nanna in the face to get out of the locked room, bury their girlfriend alive with a couple of rabid weasels and a walkie talkie, or drop them down a well with a bunch of hungry Japanese zombie girls and all of a sudden they discover this "newfound respect for life". Bleah.
	__________________ Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Take his fish away and tell him he's lucky just to be alive, and he'll figure out how to catch another one for you to take tomorrow. "...untrustworthy obnoxious twerp." - CFLarsen

7th May 2007, 05:01 PM	#97
freudianlip Critical Thinker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: laissez faire, pottymouth,EIRE Posts: 250	lmao

7th May 2007, 05:11 PM	#98
freudianlip Critical Thinker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: laissez faire, pottymouth,EIRE Posts: 250	Archer: We came out here to stop the Xindi from destroying humanity. I'll be damned if I have a hand in destroying another race in the process. (Star Trek) You will like this; http://pushback.com/environment/EcoFreakQuotes.html wonder if Pentti Linkola is including medical advances too, or will she keep a little thiothixene to keep her sentient??
	Last edited by freudianlip; 7th May 2007 at 05:19 PM. Reason: comment

7th May 2007, 05:26 PM	#99
Molinaro Illuminator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 3,032	I was hoping to find the option for Dec 31st 9999 because computers are for sure going to pee their pants with that y10k bug!
	__________________ 100% Cannuck!

7th May 2007, 05:46 PM	#100
wahrheit Pac-Man Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 5,591	Originally Posted by Molinaro I was hoping to find the option for Dec 31st 9999 because computers are for sure going to pee their pants with that y10k bug!
wahrheit Pac-Man Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 5,591	__________________ For a moment, nothing happened. Then, after a second or so, nothing continued to happen. D. Adams -- THHGTTG You're a sick man. The Atheist