StopSylviaBrowne: Montel - Holly Krewson Reading

RSLancastr · 29th April 2007, 01:01 PM

New article up today:

Montel: Holly Krewson Reading

Sylvia Browne tells the mother of a missing young woman that her daughter is alive.
She was wrong.

The article discusses the Browne reading brought to light by QuestioningGeller in this thread.

Another article or two should be up later today.

Navin · 29th April 2007, 01:11 PM

Nice work as always. 0% on SB predictions in this matter. Just have a typo to report...

Quote:

In April 2005, 23-year-old Holly Krewson was reported missing by her family

That should be 1995.

Mojo · 29th April 2007, 01:14 PM

From the SignOnSanDiego story:

Quote:

Holly had aspirations to be an actress. She was a child beauty queen, a model and dancer who was born into an entertainment family. Her grandmother was a professional singer and pianist. Her stepfather played with the Lawrence Welk Orchestra. Holly was onstage at age 3.

When she was 11, Holly was molested by a family friend. Her parents later divorced, and Holly started going downhill, according to information provided to authorities from family members. She started using drugs, hanging around with a bad crowd and becoming what her brother called a “wild child.”

Holly rarely spent time at home, dropped out of high school and worked for a time at the Viejas Casino and various bars as a cocktail waitress.

I wonder how much of this information would have been generally available at the time of Browne's reading? Model and dancer, school dropout, drug use, "wild child"... I suspect that there is at least some correlation between some or all of these factors and the likelyhood of someone working as a stripper.

sinclairmcevoy · 29th April 2007, 01:19 PM

RSL--is there a way to put a statistic to SB, or percentage of right versus wrong? Or, have you done this before?

NotARepublican · 29th April 2007, 01:20 PM

Excellent job, RSL! I hope with the continuation of unfortunate accounts like these that Sylvia Browne and her lecherous corporation and church are taken down and prosecuted under the fullest extent the law can provide.

There's got to be something in there about scamming people, right?

Questioninggeller · 29th April 2007, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by RSLancastr

New article up today:

Montel: Holly Krewson Reading

Sylvia Browne tells the mother of a missing young woman that her daughter is alive.
She was wrong.

The article discusses the Browne reading brought to light by QuestioningGeller in this thread.

Another article or two should be up later today.

The table of Browne's claims vs reality was a nice layout feature.

How long does it take to get the video?

EeneyMinnieMoe · 29th April 2007, 04:32 PM

Wow, Holly Krewson was gorgeous.

I partially blame the police for this screw up. In some cases, if they did their job better, Sylvia Browne would have a few less prey.

EeneyMinnieMoe · 29th April 2007, 04:37 PM

Robert, way back when the site opened, you promised an audio tape of a phone reading with Sylvia Browne.

Do you still plan to do that?

Questioninggeller · 29th April 2007, 04:41 PM

Maybe worth including, the 2006 article says:

Quote:

...
In 2002, she was the subject of a segment on the Montel Williams television show with a missing-people theme. On the program, a psychic said Holly could be found in Hollywood working as a dancer at an adult club.
...

"A psychic" was mentioned, but not that it was Browne. Was she given a pass by the Union-Tribune author?

RSLancastr · 29th April 2007, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by Navin

That should be 1995.

Thanks, Navin! About five people from my site's "Updates" mailing list reported that within minutes of the notification going out, so it got corrected pretty quick.

Originally Posted by Mojo

I suspect that there is at least some correlation between some or all of these factors and the likelyhood of someone working as a stripper.

I thought the same thing, Mojo. I decided it wasn't worth putting into the article, as it was a bit too spculative.

Originally Posted by sinclairmcevoy

RSL--is there a way to put a statistic to SB, or percentage of right versus wrong? Or, have you done this before?

It's pretty tough to do, SMcE. Even analyzing one of her annual prediction lists can be rather subjective.

For example, the one on smugbaldy.com about her 2006 predictions calculated her at (I believe it was) 3% accurate, partly because he gave her a "miss" on those things which she got correct, but which were patently obvious, or had already been announced.

If a Browne fan analyze the same list, they would probably score her much, much higher.

Coming up with an objective way of scoring it can be difficult, especially since many of her predictions a rather broad and/or vague.

Originally Posted by NotARepublican

Excellent job, RSL! I hope with the continuation of unfortunate accounts like these that Sylvia Browne and her lecherous corporation and church are taken down and prosecuted under the fullest extent the law can provide.

There's got to be something in there about scamming people, right?

Thanks, NAR! We'll see what happens.

Originally Posted by Questioninggeller

The table of Browne's claims vs reality was a nice layout feature.

Thanks, QG.

Quote:

How long does it take to get the video?

It should arrive in a week or so. But the question then becomes, when will I have the time to download, edit and transcribe it, then update the article. Give me a couple of weeks.

Originally Posted by EeneyMinnieMoe

Wow, Holly Krewson was gorgeous.

I partially blame the police for this screw up. In some cases, if they did their job better, Sylvia Browne would have a few less prey.

Originally Posted by EeneyMinnieMoe

Robert, way back when the site opened, you promised an audio tape of a phone reading with Sylvia Browne.

Do you still plan to do that?

Yes. The problem is, the tape I was sent is old, and immediately spun off of one of the reels in the cassette. I went to a few shops to see i anyone had a cassette repair kit, but they all looked at me like I was asking for a handle to crank-start my Model T.

It's on the list, but don't know when I will get to it.

In the meantime, there is some other audio of both Browne and Francine which should be going up in the next week or so.

Originally Posted by Questioninggeller

Maybe worth including, [url=http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20060324-9999-2m24holly.html]the 2006 article says[/url

Will do, thanks.

Questioninggeller · 29th April 2007, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by RSLancastr

It should arrive in a week or so. But the question then becomes, when will I have the time to download, edit and transcribe it, then update the article. Give me a couple of weeks.

Robert, come on now. When you need something looked up, let me know:

Quote:

THE MONTEL WILLIAMS SHOW

SHOW: The Montel Williams Show - SYND

November 27, 2002 Wednesday

LENGTH: 7558 words

HEADLINE: Sylvia Browne: Have you seen... guests and audience members seek Sylvia Browne's help in finding missing loved ones

BODY:
HOST: Montel Williams
...
[snip]
...
GWEN: Holly was a very beautiful girl. She was very, very talented and she had a bunch of trophies--talent contests, beauty pageants from the age of three up until she was, like, 17. I just can't really say when exactly she disappeared, because it wasn't unusual for her to be gone a couple weeks without checking in.

The day that my husband died is the first real shocker, of, 'Oh, my God, where is Holly? She's not here. Something's wrong.' It's been like seven and a half years, and there's no body. And I still think she's alive. I've printed up fliers. All the kids help pass 'em out, anyplace we could do it. I have fliers at my office, fliers on my car. I put 'em all over the telephone poles. We get a lot of leads, but they don't go anywhere. Last December, I received a phone call at my office, and it was a small voice, said, 'Hi, Mama.' I just knew it was her.

(Excerpt from telephone call)

GWEN: Holly, where are you? I love you. Holly, please talk to Mom.

HOLLY: Mom.

GWEN: What do you want, honey? I want--I want to find you. I want to help you. Where are you?

HOLLY: I don't know.

(End of telephone call excerpt)

GWEN: Pretty soon, she just said, 'I love you, I love you,' and then the phone disconnected. And I know it was her. It hurts because I can't help her because I can't find her.

(End of videotape excerpts)

WILLIAMS: Please welcome Gwen to the show. Where's Gwen at?

Hey, Gwen, why don't you tell us what happened to your daughter, what you think happened to your daughter?

GWEN: Well, she's been missing for over seven and a half years. She vanished without a trace. That's what I put on the fliers lately. I--I have no idea what happened to her, and I'd like...

WILLIAMS: Ooh, six--six years after she vanished, Gwen received this phone call. Listen to this.

(Excerpt from telephone call)

GWEN: Talk to me, Holly, please.

HOLLY: Mom.

GWEN: Huh?

HOLLY: I love you, Mom.

GWEN: Holly, where are you? I love you. Holly, please talk to Mom.

HOLLY: Mom.

GWEN: What do you want, honey? I want--I want to find you. I want to help you. Where are you?

HOLLY: I don't know.

GWEN: Huh? Are you in San Diego?

HOLLY: Ohio.

GWEN: Ohio? Where in Ohio? Holly?

HOLLY: I love you.

GWEN: Holly.

HOLLY: I love you.

GWEN: I love you, honey. Where are you?

(Dial tone; end of excerpt)

WILLIAMS: Sylvia, this was six years after her disappearance. I'm just wondering whether somebody's playing some sort of a sick joke. Or does that sound like your daughter?

GWEN: It did.

Ms. BROWNE: Oh, yes, it--it's her daughter. She is--I don't want to call white slavery, but somebody really took her, you know, and this is the hardest thing to do, especially because I'm a mother. She is in--not Ohio. She is in Los Angeles, and when she was calling you, she was on drugs. But she's still alive.

GWEN: She is alive?

Ms. BROWNE: Yes.

GWEN: Oh, thank God. Do you have any idea where I could look for her up there, or...

Ms. BROWNE: You know--and this is so funny, because I--I know LA very well because I have an apartment down there. But she's right in one of those--I hate to say it--it's right on Hollywood and Vine. If--if you were to get any PI to take her picture around--except she doesn't look quite like that now.

GWEN: No.

Ms. BROWNE: I mean, she looks very thin, gaunt, you know.

WILLIAMS: Will she be able to find her, or is this one of those situations where Mom should probably...

Ms. BROWNE: I think the mother should leave it alone.

WILLIAMS: And let her come from that.

Ms. BROWNE: I mean, I--if--if--if sh--if they go down there to find her, she'll run. You see how--you see how she was? She's ashamed. She doesn't want you. She lo--she just wanted you to know that she loved you. Now she also is--there's something about sending a card with no--like Christmas card or whatever, but there's no signature on it.

GWEN: I don't recall getting one.

Ms. BROWNE: Well, wait for this Christmas...

GWEN: Oh.

Ms. BROWNE: ...because you might get a Christmas card postmarked Los Angeles, but no, you know...

GWEN: I get a lot of hang-up calls, and I've had phone traces put on.

Ms. BROWNE: Oh, that's--that's her. Yeah, that's her. But that's not--she...

GWEN: But they haven't come up with anything.

WILLIAMS: When you had phone traces, where did they wind up at?

GWEN: The--they won't tell you. If they don't get two matches--I mean, if they get two matches, matching phone calls while the trap's on there, they call the police and have them investigate.

WILLIAMS: But they don't tell you where they came from?

GWEN: No.

WILLIAMS: Oh, OK. All right. Let me take a little break. We'll be back right after this.

(Announcements)
...
[snip]
...

EeneyMinnieMoe · 29th April 2007, 05:32 PM

No wonder- I didn't even know cassette repair kits existed !

You've probably thought of this already but what about asking the JREF for a copy of another one? Randi has collected several.

Questioninggeller · 29th April 2007, 05:36 PM

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EeneyMinnieMoe · 29th April 2007, 05:36 PM

That's absolutely heartbreaking. Too bad that as a mother, it's not hard for her to tell a family all those terrible things that aren't true.

Cactus Wren · 29th April 2007, 06:25 PM

Great article, Mr. Lancaster -- I'm following your updates avidly. What a vile excuse for a human being Sylvia Browne is.

A minor typo: I think you might have omitted the word "show" from the line, "an episode of the Montel Williams where Browne gave a reading" (paragraph 5 of the "Conclusion" section).

Minarvia · 29th April 2007, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by EeneyMinnieMoe

That's absolutely heartbreaking. Too bad that as a mother, it's not hard for her to tell a family all those terrible things that aren't true.

And also how horrible for someone to prank call that poor woman. I hear that this is common when a case is publicized for a missing person. I can't believe how cruel some people can be.

EeneyMinnieMoe · 29th April 2007, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by Minarvia

And also how horrible for someone to prank call that poor woman. I hear that this is common when a case is publicized for a missing person. I can't believe how cruel some people can be.

You should be arrested for that.Who could be so cruel?

Rob, I'm furiously hitting the refresh button on your site. You better deliver!

RSLancastr · 29th April 2007, 08:26 PM

Originally Posted by Questioninggeller

Robert, come on now. When you need something looked up, let me know:

Thanks, QG! I am incorporating it into the article.

Originally Posted by EeneyMinnieMoe

No wonder- I didn't even know cassette repair kits existed !

I used to do the jitterbug down to the store in my racoon-skin coat to buy them.

Quote:

You've probably thought of this already but what about asking the JREF for a copy of another one? Randi has collected several.

Already been done.

Originally Posted by Cactus Wren

Great article, Mr. Lancaster -- I'm following your updates avidly. What a vile excuse for a human being Sylvia Browne is.

Thanks, QG!

Quote:

A minor typo: I think you might have omitted the word "show" from the line, "an episode of the Montel Williams where Browne gave a reading" (paragraph 5 of the "Conclusion" section).

Thanks, will correct as I incorporate the transcript.

Originally Posted by EeneyMinnieMoe

Rob, I'm furiously hitting the refresh button on your site. You better deliver!

Subscribe to the updates email, and save the wear and tear on your refresh key!

Miss Whiplash · 29th April 2007, 08:43 PM

Another great article, RSL. I got this comment today on Mondo. It make me feel despair:

Quote:

Sylvia will admit that......the future is not set in stone. Psychics tell us the possibilities of what the future will be according to today's climate and the engeries surrounding it. What will be realized in the future will be a result of human choices and purposeful actions among a myriad of possibilities.

Sylvia was wrong about Tom Cruze and Katie Holmes. They had a girl not a boy. I believe the this country will have a black presdent in 2008. Senator Barak Obama is on fire with no signs of cooling down.

Do I doubt that Sylvia is a fake. No, I believe she is a genuine psychic but she is a human being and is not perfect.

Classic rationalizing of Sylvia's errors.

EeneyMinnieMoe · 29th April 2007, 09:13 PM

Speaking of rationalizing Sylvia's errors, I don't know of any successful missing person's case, but I can think of one her camp did claim as a hit.

Montel claimed that when she was on in January, she predicted a missing young man's body would be found in a small body of water near a large body of water. Near someplace named "Spruce Lane". And that what happened was that his body was in a reservoir and that when the water in it was used, his body floated into the drainage pipe and was found. He claimed that was the small body of water. And there was a road near it called "Oak Tree Lane".

Even if those are the facts, that's a thin case. At least I'm the first person to give you a case, though.

There can't be many episodes she did in January. Four at most. You could canvas the transcripts and find what it could be Montel was talking about.

RSLancastr · 29th April 2007, 09:39 PM

Transcript added and all known corrections have been made.

Thanks again, everyone.

RSLancastr · 29th April 2007, 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by The Vampire

Another great article, RSL.

Thannks, Vamp!

Quote:

I got this comment today on Mondo. Classic rationalizing of Sylvia's errors.

Yup. I've seen many like it.

Originally Posted by EeneyMinnieMoe

Montel claimed that when she was on in January, she predicted a missing young man's body would be found in a small body of water near a large body of water. Near someplace named "Spruce Lane". And that what happened was that his body was in a reservoir and that when the water in it was used, his body floated into the drainage pipe and was found. He claimed that was the small body of water. And there was a road near it called "Oak Tree Lane".

QG, is this something you could Lexis-Nexis? I don't know if we know which January, though...

Reno · 29th April 2007, 11:06 PM

cassette tapes are easy to repair Robert, I used to do it all the time. Just get a tiny little screwdriver and open the case. Cut a sliver of selotape and use that to attach the end of the cassette tape back onto the reel. there might even be a little slot in the reel to help you do this easily. Then just screw the cassette back together and Bob's your uncle

If you can't manage that, PM me for my home address and you can post it to me and I'll fix it for you. I'll even re-record it digitally and save as mp3. I'll return the repaired tape to you and email you the mp3 version.

Questioninggeller · 29th April 2007, 11:29 PM

Keyword search for transcript of Montel with Browne:

Spruce Lane = No hits
Spruce = No hits
Reservoir = No hits
Tree Lane = No hits
Oak Tree Lane = No hits
Oak Tree = 3 hits, but none related to Browne
drainage pipe = hit (February 26, 2003 Related to Browne, but involves a pregnant women and doesn't sound similiar.) Montel uses the phrase anyway
Lane = Comes up with 14 shows (including two Jan 2007) with Browne, but none fit the criteria

Only have easy access to transcripts from 2000ish on, but can't find anything.

Mojo · 30th April 2007, 12:19 AM

Originally Posted by The Vampire

Another great article, RSL. I got this comment today on Mondo. It make me feel despair:

Quote:

Sylvia will admit that......the future is not set in stone. Psychics tell us the possibilities of what the future will be according to today's climate and the engeries surrounding it. What will be realized in the future will be a result of human choices and purposeful actions among a myriad of possibilities.

Did you point out to this person all the errors that Browne makes about the past and the present?

Jackalgirl · 30th April 2007, 01:01 AM

I decided to see if I could play around with Lexis/Nexus too, since I'm enrolled in distance education through the University of Maryland. And I can! I found this, which is totally not related to Robert's article but which tickled me:

Quote:

The Ledger (Lakeland, FL)
May 22, 2003, Thursday
SECTION: Metro; Pg. B3

HEADLINE: PSYCHIC DRAWS PROTESTERS

GRAPHIC: DAVID MILLS/The Ledger: ESP Ministries evangelist Ben Alexander protests psychic Sylvia Browne's appearance at The Lakeland Center on Wednesday. Alexander says the Bible declares it is detestable to contact the dead. He was there with his wife, Miranda, left, and four other protesters.

LOAD-DATE: May 23, 2003

I don't think Mr. Alexander really needs to worry about Sylvia contacting the dead.

Miss Whiplash · 30th April 2007, 06:27 AM

Originally Posted by Mojo

Did you point out to this person all the errors that Browne makes about the past and the present?

They've been pointed out more times than I can count on my blog. The person was refuting Sylvia's errors with this post.

alfaniner · 30th April 2007, 07:09 AM

Originally Posted by Jackalgirl

I decided to see if I could play around with Lexis/Nexus too, since I'm enrolled in distance education through the University of Maryland. And I can! I found this, which is totally not related to Robert's article but which tickled me:

Quote:
The Ledger (Lakeland, FL)
May 22, 2003, Thursday
SECTION: Metro; Pg. B3

HEADLINE: PSYCHIC DRAWS PROTESTERS

GRAPHIC: DAVID MILLS/The Ledger: ESP Ministries evangelist Ben Alexander protests psychic Sylvia Browne's appearance at The Lakeland Center on Wednesday. Alexander says the Bible declares it is detestable to contact the dead. He was there with his wife, Miranda, left, and four other protesters.

LOAD-DATE: May 23, 2003

Yeah... Jeebuz really hates that...

EeneyMinnieMoe · 30th April 2007, 09:41 AM

Want to hear something funny about Sylvia Browne in person?

Way back when Robert searched a Sylvia MySpace fan group for positive experiences with Sylvia Browne, someone defended her to him by saying how nice she is in person. Robert responded along the lines of "Well, if she is, it doesn't come through on TV. Then again, I know someone very caring who comes off as a grouch on TV. Go figure."

Actually, that's true. When I see her on Montel or Larry King, I can barely contain myself but in person she's just a Jewey old lady that could be one of my friend's grandmothers. She would even be nice if it wasn't that she was pretending to contact the dead.

TV magnifies her obnoxiousness and rudeness about a 100 percent.

RSLancastr · 30th April 2007, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by EeneyMinnieMoe

Robert responded along the lines of "Well, if she is, it doesn't come through on TV. Then again, I know someone very caring who comes off as a grouch on TV. Go figure."

Any guesses who I was talking about?

EeneyMinnieMoe · 30th April 2007, 11:29 AM

Lol, Randi isn't completely "TV-genic", either.

It's funny though how much more likable (for lack of a better word) she is in real life.

Maybe it's just that you don't have to see extreme closeups of her picking her teeth.

It's only when you leave and start reading your notes and have time to re-live and think about it that you get hopping mad.

EeneyMinnieMoe · 30th April 2007, 12:02 PM

I'm sorry you found nothing on the story

. I suppose it is possible she was asked this on a commercial break...you could search the papers for a body found near a reservoir in March...

Robert, you're too generous- Montel's show had a pre-taped video segment which means they researched this story and contacted and interviewed Holly's family so it's a good bet that they learned she was leading a wild life. I mean, I don't think it's a coincidence she told Holly's mother all those terrible things about stripping and drug use.

Sylvia arrives a good hour and a half before the show starts taping and as to what she's doing there for all that time other than working on the Lucky Strikes, it's more than fair to guess she's told about the guests.

I think it would be fair to mention that she could have used hot reading. You've speculated she could have gleaned information before hand in other articles.

Steven Howard · 30th April 2007, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by RSLancastr

Any guesses who I was talking about?

PastBrowneFan · 30th April 2007, 07:37 PM

Steven Howard, how'd you get a picture of SB after dealing with the public?

LostAngeles · 30th April 2007, 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by Questioninggeller

Keyword search for transcript of Montel with Browne:

Spruce Lane = No hits
Spruce = No hits
Reservoir = No hits
Tree Lane = No hits
Oak Tree Lane = No hits
Oak Tree = 3 hits, but none related to Browne
drainage pipe = hit (February 26, 2003 Related to Browne, but involves a pregnant women and doesn't sound similiar.) Montel uses the phrase anyway
Lane = Comes up with 14 shows (including two Jan 2007) with Browne, but none fit the criteria

Only have easy access to transcripts from 2000ish on, but can't find anything.

I did a search from 1995 to 2000 for transcripts and found this:

Quote:

Copyright 2001 Fox News Network, LLC
Fox News Network

SHOW: FOX THE EDGE WITH PAULA ZAHN (22:30)

July 17, 2001 Tuesday

Transcript # 071702cb.260

SECTION: News; Domestic

LENGTH: 3824 words

HEADLINE: The Chandra Levy Case

GUESTS: William Bennett, Tim Haney, Nancy Grace, Jeralyn Merritt, Sylvia Browne

BYLINE: Paula Zahn

BODY:
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

...

There's more on the Chandra Levy case. When we come back, world- renowned psychic Sylvia Browne will venture to THE EDGE. Does she have any idea where Chandra Levy is?

...

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SUSAN LEVY, CHANDRA LEVY'S MOTHER: I have fear, I'm scared, anxiety of a mother. I'm really in pain a lot. I just want my daughter home. I want her home soon alive. We grieve. Sometimes we laugh a little bit, but most of the time we're in a state of anxiety and deep depression.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

ZAHN: We are back with more on the search for Chandra Levy.

Sylvia Browne is a psychic medium known around the world for her ability to help find missing children, and she has donated countless hours to helping police solve crimes. Sylvia has a new book out called "Past Lives, Future Healing." She joins us tonight from Los Angeles.

Welcome.

SYLVIA BROWNE, PSYCHIC AND SPIRITUAL TEACHER: Welcome.

ZAHN: All right, Sylvia. As the search goes on in this park area not far from where Gary Condit lived and where Chandra Levy lived, I think it's interesting to note that recent surveys show that approximately 35 percent of urban U.S. police departments use psychics, 19 percent of rural departments use psychics. We contacted the Washington PD tonight, and they confirmed that they have been certainly been approached by psychics, but they have not consulted with one yet.

BROWNE: Well, see, I never...

ZAHN: If you were to consult with the PD, what would you tell them to do? Where should they be looking?

BROWNE: Well, see, I never ambulance chase. They always, you know, call me. If I were to take a helicopter straight up and to look at this park, which makes sort of a square, except it's got a little bit of a point to it -- I haven't seen the -- you know, the topography of it. But to the left of this, if I were facing west, let's say, there's a marshy area. There are some trees down in a marshy area.

In other words, when you step on this land, it looks like it could have been a seabed or something. It's a marshy area. This is where the body is. This girl -- I am sorry to tell you this, but this girl is not alive.

ZAHN: How do you know that, Sylvia? Has this been something that you've been spending time...

BROWNE: Well, Paula, you know...

ZAHN: ... thinking about and analyzing?

BROWNE: No, no. No. Paula, you know, you can either be one place or the other. If you're not here, you've got to be there.

ZAHN: And why are you so convinced she's there?[tilde]

BROWNE: Because I'm a psychic. I know where she -- I know she's there. She was gone very quickly after she was first missing.

ZAHN: And do you have any insights as to how she got into trouble?

BROWNE: Well, I won't go into all of that, but let me just say -- and this is certainly not accusing, but I think that a lot more is going to come out, that Condit knows a plot more than he's saying that he knows. I don't care what polygraph tests he takes or what he does. I think he's very familiar with where she was going, what she was going to do, how she felt, what frame of mind she was in, and he's not saying anything.

ZAHN: All right. The police continue to tell us he is not a suspect, never has been, is not one tonight. Do you think he had something to do with her disappearance, or do you think he could just provide more clues as to what might have happened to her?

BROWNE: I think he could certainly provide a hell of a lot more clues. Let me put it to you this way, that he's -- I mean, let's face it, not because he lied in the beginning, because who hasn't? You know, going way back to whoever. But the thing that bothers me the most is -- and we're going to have more women coming out of the woodwork, by the way, which is neither here nor there. But he knows a lot more of the clues than he's saying.

And I think that's a terrible travesty to the family because, I mean, like you said earlier, I work with police for missing children. I have children, grandchildren. I love children. I mean, if it was my child -- you know, please come forward. If you're going to come forward and say -- first you don't have an affair, then you did. Well, then at least come forward and say that you knew she was on her way from here to there, and where she could have stopped and what could have happened.

ZAHN: OK, let me ask you this, Sylvia. As you know, there are folk in our audience tonight who look at psychics with a great deal of cynicism. And they know the Levy family contacted -- or actually, a psychic contacted the family, and she did her own analysis.

BROWNE: Yeah.

ZAHN: And what she saw was -- the words "East" kept on coming up, and the words "Brookline" and that Chandra wants to go home, but she can't get out, I guess implying that she's trapped, not necessarily dead. So what do you say to folks who say, "Wait a minute." You know, "You psychics can have 110 different theories for what happened to Chandra"?

BROWNE: I don't know about other psychics. I just keep very parochial in my own world, and I mean, my track record is pretty good. I mean, as I show on Montel's show, because we do follow-ups. I think if you're not good, they don't keep contacting you. I get a little concerned when the psychic contacts the family, though. I mean, that's sort of like ambulance chasing, like I said earlier. If you come to me, then I'll tell you, but me running around trying to get into the -- you know, the Blake case, the Chandra Levy -- no, no. I don't do that. I wouldn't have done that unless you called me.

ZAHN: Actually, I may have misrepresented that. If I remember correctly, I think, actually, a friend of the family wanted to seek out the comfort level that the Levys have of seeing a psychic because somehow they came together. But the point well taken, that I understand you have a great disdain for people you think are preying on other folks.

BROWNE: Exactly.

ZAHN: Tell me how Chandra's -- the status of this investigation might square with some of the information in your new book, "Past Lives, Future Healing."

BROWNE: Well, I think it -- not so much this, although we are going to write a mystery book. But I think it shows that life after life, time after time, we keep going through these horrible things -- and believe me, my heart goes out to that family -- is that we do chart these things, and these things keep recurring in our life until we do learn.

That doesn't mean the Levy family has to keep coming back and losing a daughter. But I mean, all the horrible things that happen in life are for a reason, as amazing as it is, because, you know, like my grandmother used to tell me, who was a great psychic, within your weakness, there lies your strength sleeping.

But I will tell the Levy family this, that for whatever they believe, she is very happy now. I mean, she -- see, I don't see her incarcerated anywhere. What do you mean? She was a healthy, strong girl. What do you mean, somebody's got her in a box somewhere, kept somewhere? That's stupid.

ZAHN: Let me ask you this. You say you have a pretty good track record. How many criminal cases have you cracked open, or missing persons cases?

BROWNE: Hundreds. I don't even know how to count. I have them on file. But I have hundreds. Hundreds. I mean, when I'm on Montel's show, I'll do six, seven, eight cases at once, and then he'll do a follow-up on them.

ZAHN: Also, I know it will be tough for people to hear what the conclusion is that you've just arrived at. Are you sensitive to share that kind of information in such a public forum tonight here on TV...

BROWNE: No, I...

ZAHN: ... when the news...

BROWNE: I think it's worse...

(CROSSTALK)

BROWNE: You know -- you know, Paula, I think it's worse not knowing, don't you think? I think -- and I do believe you never get closure. I hate that word, "closure." I don't know. I've lost so many people in my life. I don't know if you ever get closure on that. But I think false hope is also horrible, don't you think? I think that's terrible. I mean, every day, they're waiting -- and I heard a little bit before you came on - - the phone to ring, her to show up. That's horrifying. That's horrifying.

ZAHN: One last question for you this evening, Sylvia. You've come to your own conclusions about what you think has happened to Chandra Levy. Once again, for the folks out there that put very little credence into either what you've seen or what you've heard, what do you say to them tonight?

BROWNE: I don't care, Paula. I mean, you know, when you do your work for God and you do the best you can and your motive is pure, I don't care what people think. I mean, you can't.

ZAHN: All right. Sylvia Browne, good to have you with us on THE EDGE tonight. Appreciate your joining us.

BROWNE: It's good to be with you, Paula.

ZAHN: You can read an excerpt of Sylvia's new book by logging onto our Web site at foxnews.com.

And we want to thank you all for watching us at home tonight. We hope you have a great night. And thanks again for making us the fastest-growing show on cable TV. See you again tomorrow night.

Kilgore Trout · 1st May 2007, 04:32 PM

Quote:

I don't even know how to count.

Very tempted to replace the quote I currently use with that one.

More seriously, I'm absolutely appalled at the idea that she admitted that false hope is "horrible" and she gives exactly that. If this really is how she feels, and isn't totally and absolutely self-deluded, she's sadistic and evil. Stating the obvious, I suppose...

RSLancastr · 21st May 2007, 01:48 AM

An update to this artcle uploaded today:

http://www.stopsylvia.com/arti...update20070520

DJM · 21st May 2007, 01:58 AM

Maybe you should mention on the main articles page that it's updated? Not many people would notice it without that.

RSLancastr · 21st May 2007, 08:33 AM

I might. I will also be sending out notice of it to my subscribers.

Miss Anthrope · 21st May 2007, 10:44 AM

Wow. How terribly sad...again.
May I second the request to note the update on the articles page?

29th April 2007, 01:01 PM	#1
RSLancastr www.StopSylvia.com Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Salem, Oregon Posts: 15,543	StopSylviaBrowne: Montel - Holly Krewson Reading New article up today: Montel: Holly Krewson Reading Sylvia Browne tells the mother of a missing young woman that her daughter is alive. She was wrong. The article discusses the Browne reading brought to light by QuestioningGeller in this thread. Another article or two should be up later today.
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29th April 2007, 01:11 PM	#2
Navin Student Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 33	Nice work as always. 0% on SB predictions in this matter. Just have a typo to report... Quote: In April 2005, 23-year-old Holly Krewson was reported missing by her family That should be 1995.
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29th April 2007, 01:14 PM	#3
Mojo Mostly harmless Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Nor Flanden Posts: 22,093	From the SignOnSanDiego story: Quote: Holly had aspirations to be an actress. She was a child beauty queen, a model and dancer who was born into an entertainment family. Her grandmother was a professional singer and pianist. Her stepfather played with the Lawrence Welk Orchestra. Holly was onstage at age 3. When she was 11, Holly was molested by a family friend. Her parents later divorced, and Holly started going downhill, according to information provided to authorities from family members. She started using drugs, hanging around with a bad crowd and becoming what her brother called a “wild child.” Holly rarely spent time at home, dropped out of high school and worked for a time at the Viejas Casino and various bars as a cocktail waitress. I wonder how much of this information would have been generally available at the time of Browne's reading? Model and dancer, school dropout, drug use, "wild child"... I suspect that there is at least some correlation between some or all of these factors and the likelyhood of someone working as a stripper.
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29th April 2007, 01:20 PM	#5
NotARepublican Student Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 40	Excellent job, RSL! I hope with the continuation of unfortunate accounts like these that Sylvia Browne and her lecherous corporation and church are taken down and prosecuted under the fullest extent the law can provide. There's got to be something in there about scamming people, right?
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29th April 2007, 04:15 PM	#6
Questioninggeller Illuminator Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,030	Originally Posted by RSLancastr New article up today: Montel: Holly Krewson Reading Sylvia Browne tells the mother of a missing young woman that her daughter is alive. She was wrong. The article discusses the Browne reading brought to light by QuestioningGeller in this thread. Another article or two should be up later today. The table of Browne's claims vs reality was a nice layout feature. How long does it take to get the video?

29th April 2007, 01:19 PM	#4
sinclairmcevoy Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 8,027	RSL--is there a way to put a statistic to SB, or percentage of right versus wrong? Or, have you done this before?

29th April 2007, 04:32 PM	#7
EeneyMinnieMoe Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,660	Wow, Holly Krewson was gorgeous. I partially blame the police for this screw up. In some cases, if they did their job better, Sylvia Browne would have a few less prey.

29th April 2007, 04:37 PM	#8
EeneyMinnieMoe Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,660	Oh PS Robert, way back when the site opened, you promised an audio tape of a phone reading with Sylvia Browne. Do you still plan to do that?

29th April 2007, 04:41 PM	#9
Questioninggeller Illuminator Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,030	Maybe worth including, the 2006 article says: Quote: ... In 2002, she was the subject of a segment on the Montel Williams television show with a missing-people theme. On the program, a psychic said Holly could be found in Hollywood working as a dancer at an adult club. ... "A psychic" was mentioned, but not that it was Browne. Was she given a pass by the Union-Tribune author?
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29th April 2007, 05:19 PM	#10
RSLancastr www.StopSylvia.com Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Salem, Oregon Posts: 15,543	Originally Posted by Navin That should be 1995. Thanks, Navin! About five people from my site's "Updates" mailing list reported that within minutes of the notification going out, so it got corrected pretty quick. Originally Posted by Mojo I suspect that there is at least some correlation between some or all of these factors and the likelyhood of someone working as a stripper. I thought the same thing, Mojo. I decided it wasn't worth putting into the article, as it was a bit too spculative. Originally Posted by sinclairmcevoy RSL--is there a way to put a statistic to SB, or percentage of right versus wrong? Or, have you done this before? It's pretty tough to do, SMcE. Even analyzing one of her annual prediction lists can be rather subjective. For example, the one on smugbaldy.com about her 2006 predictions calculated her at (I believe it was) 3% accurate, partly because he gave her a "miss" on those things which she got correct, but which were patently obvious, or had already been announced. If a Browne fan analyze the same list, they would probably score her much, much higher. Coming up with an objective way of scoring it can be difficult, especially since many of her predictions a rather broad and/or vague. Originally Posted by NotARepublican Excellent job, RSL! I hope with the continuation of unfortunate accounts like these that Sylvia Browne and her lecherous corporation and church are taken down and prosecuted under the fullest extent the law can provide. There's got to be something in there about scamming people, right? Thanks, NAR! We'll see what happens. Originally Posted by Questioninggeller The table of Browne's claims vs reality was a nice layout feature. Thanks, QG. Quote: How long does it take to get the video? It should arrive in a week or so. But the question then becomes, when will I have the time to download, edit and transcribe it, then update the article. Give me a couple of weeks. Originally Posted by EeneyMinnieMoe Wow, Holly Krewson was gorgeous. I partially blame the police for this screw up. In some cases, if they did their job better, Sylvia Browne would have a few less prey. Originally Posted by EeneyMinnieMoe Robert, way back when the site opened, you promised an audio tape of a phone reading with Sylvia Browne. Do you still plan to do that? Yes. The problem is, the tape I was sent is old, and immediately spun off of one of the reels in the cassette. I went to a few shops to see i anyone had a cassette repair kit, but they all looked at me like I was asking for a handle to crank-start my Model T. It's on the list, but don't know when I will get to it. In the meantime, there is some other audio of both Browne and Francine which should be going up in the next week or so. Originally Posted by Questioninggeller Maybe worth including, [url=http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20060324-9999-2m24holly.html]the 2006 article says[/url Will do, thanks.
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29th April 2007, 05:24 PM	#11
Questioninggeller Illuminator Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,030	Originally Posted by RSLancastr It should arrive in a week or so. But the question then becomes, when will I have the time to download, edit and transcribe it, then update the article. Give me a couple of weeks. Robert, come on now. When you need something looked up, let me know: Quote: THE MONTEL WILLIAMS SHOW SHOW: The Montel Williams Show - SYND November 27, 2002 Wednesday LENGTH: 7558 words HEADLINE: Sylvia Browne: Have you seen... guests and audience members seek Sylvia Browne's help in finding missing loved ones BODY: HOST: Montel Williams ... [snip] ... GWEN: Holly was a very beautiful girl. She was very, very talented and she had a bunch of trophies--talent contests, beauty pageants from the age of three up until she was, like, 17. I just can't really say when exactly she disappeared, because it wasn't unusual for her to be gone a couple weeks without checking in. The day that my husband died is the first real shocker, of, 'Oh, my God, where is Holly? She's not here. Something's wrong.' It's been like seven and a half years, and there's no body. And I still think she's alive. I've printed up fliers. All the kids help pass 'em out, anyplace we could do it. I have fliers at my office, fliers on my car. I put 'em all over the telephone poles. We get a lot of leads, but they don't go anywhere. Last December, I received a phone call at my office, and it was a small voice, said, 'Hi, Mama.' I just knew it was her. (Excerpt from telephone call) GWEN: Holly, where are you? I love you. Holly, please talk to Mom. HOLLY: Mom. GWEN: What do you want, honey? I want--I want to find you. I want to help you. Where are you? HOLLY: I don't know. (End of telephone call excerpt) GWEN: Pretty soon, she just said, 'I love you, I love you,' and then the phone disconnected. And I know it was her. It hurts because I can't help her because I can't find her. (End of videotape excerpts) WILLIAMS: Please welcome Gwen to the show. Where's Gwen at? Hey, Gwen, why don't you tell us what happened to your daughter, what you think happened to your daughter? GWEN: Well, she's been missing for over seven and a half years. She vanished without a trace. That's what I put on the fliers lately. I--I have no idea what happened to her, and I'd like... WILLIAMS: Ooh, six--six years after she vanished, Gwen received this phone call. Listen to this. (Excerpt from telephone call) GWEN: Talk to me, Holly, please. HOLLY: Mom. GWEN: Huh? HOLLY: I love you, Mom. GWEN: Holly, where are you? I love you. Holly, please talk to Mom. HOLLY: Mom. GWEN: What do you want, honey? I want--I want to find you. I want to help you. Where are you? HOLLY: I don't know. GWEN: Huh? Are you in San Diego? HOLLY: Ohio. GWEN: Ohio? Where in Ohio? Holly? HOLLY: I love you. GWEN: Holly. HOLLY: I love you. GWEN: I love you, honey. Where are you? (Dial tone; end of excerpt) WILLIAMS: Sylvia, this was six years after her disappearance. I'm just wondering whether somebody's playing some sort of a sick joke. Or does that sound like your daughter? GWEN: It did. Ms. BROWNE: Oh, yes, it--it's her daughter. She is--I don't want to call white slavery, but somebody really took her, you know, and this is the hardest thing to do, especially because I'm a mother. She is in--not Ohio. She is in Los Angeles, and when she was calling you, she was on drugs. But she's still alive. GWEN: She is alive? Ms. BROWNE: Yes. GWEN: Oh, thank God. Do you have any idea where I could look for her up there, or... Ms. BROWNE: You know--and this is so funny, because I--I know LA very well because I have an apartment down there. But she's right in one of those--I hate to say it--it's right on Hollywood and Vine. If--if you were to get any PI to take her picture around--except she doesn't look quite like that now. GWEN: No. Ms. BROWNE: I mean, she looks very thin, gaunt, you know. WILLIAMS: Will she be able to find her, or is this one of those situations where Mom should probably... Ms. BROWNE: I think the mother should leave it alone. WILLIAMS: And let her come from that. Ms. BROWNE: I mean, I--if--if--if sh--if they go down there to find her, she'll run. You see how--you see how she was? She's ashamed. She doesn't want you. She lo--she just wanted you to know that she loved you. Now she also is--there's something about sending a card with no--like Christmas card or whatever, but there's no signature on it. GWEN: I don't recall getting one. Ms. BROWNE: Well, wait for this Christmas... GWEN: Oh. Ms. BROWNE: ...because you might get a Christmas card postmarked Los Angeles, but no, you know... GWEN: I get a lot of hang-up calls, and I've had phone traces put on. Ms. BROWNE: Oh, that's--that's her. Yeah, that's her. But that's not--she... GWEN: But they haven't come up with anything. WILLIAMS: When you had phone traces, where did they wind up at? GWEN: The--they won't tell you. If they don't get two matches--I mean, if they get two matches, matching phone calls while the trap's on there, they call the police and have them investigate. WILLIAMS: But they don't tell you where they came from? GWEN: No. WILLIAMS: Oh, OK. All right. Let me take a little break. We'll be back right after this. (Announcements) ... [snip] ...
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29th April 2007, 05:32 PM	#12
EeneyMinnieMoe Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,660	No wonder- I didn't even know cassette repair kits existed ! You've probably thought of this already but what about asking the JREF for a copy of another one? Randi has collected several.

29th April 2007, 05:36 PM	#13
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29th April 2007, 06:25 PM	#15
Cactus Wren Muse Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: West of Superstition Posts: 897	Great article, Mr. Lancaster -- I'm following your updates avidly. What a vile excuse for a human being Sylvia Browne is. A minor typo: I think you might have omitted the word "show" from the line, "an episode of the Montel Williams where Browne gave a reading" (paragraph 5 of the "Conclusion" section).

29th April 2007, 07:44 PM	#16
Minarvia fading orb Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 2,212	Originally Posted by EeneyMinnieMoe That's absolutely heartbreaking. Too bad that as a mother, it's not hard for her to tell a family all those terrible things that aren't true. And also how horrible for someone to prank call that poor woman. I hear that this is common when a case is publicized for a missing person. I can't believe how cruel some people can be.

29th April 2007, 08:16 PM	#17
EeneyMinnieMoe Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,660	Originally Posted by Minarvia And also how horrible for someone to prank call that poor woman. I hear that this is common when a case is publicized for a missing person. I can't believe how cruel some people can be. You should be arrested for that.Who could be so cruel? Rob, I'm furiously hitting the refresh button on your site. You better deliver!

29th April 2007, 08:26 PM	#18
RSLancastr www.StopSylvia.com Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Salem, Oregon Posts: 15,543	Originally Posted by Questioninggeller Robert, come on now. When you need something looked up, let me know: Thanks, QG! I am incorporating it into the article. Originally Posted by EeneyMinnieMoe No wonder- I didn't even know cassette repair kits existed ! I used to do the jitterbug down to the store in my racoon-skin coat to buy them. Quote: You've probably thought of this already but what about asking the JREF for a copy of another one? Randi has collected several. Already been done. Originally Posted by Cactus Wren Great article, Mr. Lancaster -- I'm following your updates avidly. What a vile excuse for a human being Sylvia Browne is. Thanks, QG! Quote: A minor typo: I think you might have omitted the word "show" from the line, "an episode of the Montel Williams where Browne gave a reading" (paragraph 5 of the "Conclusion" section). Thanks, will correct as I incorporate the transcript. Originally Posted by EeneyMinnieMoe Rob, I'm furiously hitting the refresh button on your site. You better deliver! Subscribe to the updates email, and save the wear and tear on your refresh key!
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29th April 2007, 08:43 PM	#19
Miss Whiplash Nettlesome Harpy Join Date: May 2006 Location: 53 Miles West of Venus Posts: 1,583	Another great article, RSL. I got this comment today on Mondo. It make me feel despair: Quote: Sylvia will admit that......the future is not set in stone. Psychics tell us the possibilities of what the future will be according to today's climate and the engeries surrounding it. What will be realized in the future will be a result of human choices and purposeful actions among a myriad of possibilities. Sylvia was wrong about Tom Cruze and Katie Holmes. They had a girl not a boy. I believe the this country will have a black presdent in 2008. Senator Barak Obama is on fire with no signs of cooling down. Do I doubt that Sylvia is a fake. No, I believe she is a genuine psychic but she is a human being and is not perfect. Classic rationalizing of Sylvia's errors.
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29th April 2007, 09:13 PM	#20
EeneyMinnieMoe Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,660	Speaking of rationalizing Sylvia's errors, I don't know of any successful missing person's case, but I can think of one her camp did claim as a hit. Montel claimed that when she was on in January, she predicted a missing young man's body would be found in a small body of water near a large body of water. Near someplace named "Spruce Lane". And that what happened was that his body was in a reservoir and that when the water in it was used, his body floated into the drainage pipe and was found. He claimed that was the small body of water. And there was a road near it called "Oak Tree Lane". Even if those are the facts, that's a thin case. At least I'm the first person to give you a case, though. There can't be many episodes she did in January. Four at most. You could canvas the transcripts and find what it could be Montel was talking about.
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29th April 2007, 09:39 PM	#21
RSLancastr www.StopSylvia.com Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Salem, Oregon Posts: 15,543	Transcript added and all known corrections have been made. Thanks again, everyone.
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29th April 2007, 10:07 PM	#22
RSLancastr www.StopSylvia.com Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Salem, Oregon Posts: 15,543	Originally Posted by The Vampire Another great article, RSL. Thannks, Vamp! Quote: I got this comment today on Mondo. Classic rationalizing of Sylvia's errors. Yup. I've seen many like it. Originally Posted by EeneyMinnieMoe Montel claimed that when she was on in January, she predicted a missing young man's body would be found in a small body of water near a large body of water. Near someplace named "Spruce Lane". And that what happened was that his body was in a reservoir and that when the water in it was used, his body floated into the drainage pipe and was found. He claimed that was the small body of water. And there was a road near it called "Oak Tree Lane". QG, is this something you could Lexis-Nexis? I don't know if we know which January, though...
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29th April 2007, 11:06 PM	#23
Reno Inquisitor Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Scotland, West Coast Posts: 1,234	cassette tapes are easy to repair Robert, I used to do it all the time. Just get a tiny little screwdriver and open the case. Cut a sliver of selotape and use that to attach the end of the cassette tape back onto the reel. there might even be a little slot in the reel to help you do this easily. Then just screw the cassette back together and Bob's your uncle If you can't manage that, PM me for my home address and you can post it to me and I'll fix it for you. I'll even re-record it digitally and save as mp3. I'll return the repaired tape to you and email you the mp3 version.
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29th April 2007, 11:29 PM	#24
Questioninggeller Illuminator Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,030	Keyword search for transcript of Montel with Browne: Spruce Lane = No hits Spruce = No hits Reservoir = No hits Tree Lane = No hits Oak Tree Lane = No hits Oak Tree = 3 hits, but none related to Browne drainage pipe = hit (February 26, 2003 Related to Browne, but involves a pregnant women and doesn't sound similiar.) Montel uses the phrase anyway Lane = Comes up with 14 shows (including two Jan 2007) with Browne, but none fit the criteria Only have easy access to transcripts from 2000ish on, but can't find anything.

30th April 2007, 12:19 AM	#25
Mojo Mostly harmless Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Nor Flanden Posts: 22,093	Originally Posted by The Vampire Another great article, RSL. I got this comment today on Mondo. It make me feel despair: Quote: Sylvia will admit that......the future is not set in stone. Psychics tell us the possibilities of what the future will be according to today's climate and the engeries surrounding it. What will be realized in the future will be a result of human choices and purposeful actions among a myriad of possibilities. Did you point out to this person all the errors that Browne makes about the past and the present?
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30th April 2007, 01:01 AM	#26
Jackalgirl Ping Jockey Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Honshu, Japan Posts: 1,787	I decided to see if I could play around with Lexis/Nexus too, since I'm enrolled in distance education through the University of Maryland. And I can! I found this, which is totally not related to Robert's article but which tickled me: Quote: The Ledger (Lakeland, FL) May 22, 2003, Thursday SECTION: Metro; Pg. B3 HEADLINE: PSYCHIC DRAWS PROTESTERS GRAPHIC: DAVID MILLS/The Ledger: ESP Ministries evangelist Ben Alexander protests psychic Sylvia Browne's appearance at The Lakeland Center on Wednesday. Alexander says the Bible declares it is detestable to contact the dead. He was there with his wife, Miranda, left, and four other protesters. LOAD-DATE: May 23, 2003 I don't think Mr. Alexander really needs to worry about Sylvia contacting the dead.
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30th April 2007, 06:27 AM	#27
Miss Whiplash Nettlesome Harpy Join Date: May 2006 Location: 53 Miles West of Venus Posts: 1,583	Originally Posted by Mojo Did you point out to this person all the errors that Browne makes about the past and the present? They've been pointed out more times than I can count on my blog. The person was refuting Sylvia's errors with this post.
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30th April 2007, 07:09 AM	#28
alfaniner Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Sorth Dakonsin Posts: 11,392	Originally Posted by Jackalgirl I decided to see if I could play around with Lexis/Nexus too, since I'm enrolled in distance education through the University of Maryland. And I can! I found this, which is totally not related to Robert's article but which tickled me: Quote: The Ledger (Lakeland, FL) May 22, 2003, Thursday SECTION: Metro; Pg. B3 HEADLINE: PSYCHIC DRAWS PROTESTERS GRAPHIC: DAVID MILLS/The Ledger: ESP Ministries evangelist Ben Alexander protests psychic Sylvia Browne's appearance at The Lakeland Center on Wednesday. Alexander says the Bible declares it is detestable to contact the dead. He was there with his wife, Miranda, left, and four other protesters. LOAD-DATE: May 23, 2003 Yeah... Jeebuz really hates that...
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30th April 2007, 09:41 AM	#29
EeneyMinnieMoe Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,660	Want to hear something funny about Sylvia Browne in person? Way back when Robert searched a Sylvia MySpace fan group for positive experiences with Sylvia Browne, someone defended her to him by saying how nice she is in person. Robert responded along the lines of "Well, if she is, it doesn't come through on TV. Then again, I know someone very caring who comes off as a grouch on TV. Go figure." Actually, that's true. When I see her on Montel or Larry King, I can barely contain myself but in person she's just a Jewey old lady that could be one of my friend's grandmothers. She would even be nice if it wasn't that she was pretending to contact the dead. TV magnifies her obnoxiousness and rudeness about a 100 percent.

30th April 2007, 11:18 AM	#30
RSLancastr www.StopSylvia.com Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Salem, Oregon Posts: 15,543	Originally Posted by EeneyMinnieMoe Robert responded along the lines of "Well, if she is, it doesn't come through on TV. Then again, I know someone very caring who comes off as a grouch on TV. Go figure." Any guesses who I was talking about?
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30th April 2007, 11:29 AM	#31
EeneyMinnieMoe Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,660	Lol, Randi isn't completely "TV-genic", either. It's funny though how much more likable (for lack of a better word) she is in real life. Maybe it's just that you don't have to see extreme closeups of her picking her teeth. It's only when you leave and start reading your notes and have time to re-live and think about it that you get hopping mad.
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30th April 2007, 12:02 PM	#32
EeneyMinnieMoe Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,660	I'm sorry you found nothing on the story . I suppose it is possible she was asked this on a commercial break...you could search the papers for a body found near a reservoir in March... Robert, you're too generous- Montel's show had a pre-taped video segment which means they researched this story and contacted and interviewed Holly's family so it's a good bet that they learned she was leading a wild life. I mean, I don't think it's a coincidence she told Holly's mother all those terrible things about stripping and drug use. Sylvia arrives a good hour and a half before the show starts taping and as to what she's doing there for all that time other than working on the Lucky Strikes, it's more than fair to guess she's told about the guests. I think it would be fair to mention that she could have used hot reading. You've speculated she could have gleaned information before hand in other articles.

30th April 2007, 02:13 PM	#33
Steven Howard Custom Title Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Long Beach, California Posts: 1,798	Originally Posted by RSLancastr Any guesses who I was talking about?
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30th April 2007, 07:37 PM	#34
PastBrowneFan Critical Thinker Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 373	Steven Howard, how'd you get a picture of SB after dealing with the public?

30th April 2007, 07:55 PM	#35
LostAngeles Anti-WM Jihadist Join Date: May 2004 Location: Having a cup of tea. Posts: 10,159	Originally Posted by Questioninggeller Keyword search for transcript of Montel with Browne: Spruce Lane = No hits Spruce = No hits Reservoir = No hits Tree Lane = No hits Oak Tree Lane = No hits Oak Tree = 3 hits, but none related to Browne drainage pipe = hit (February 26, 2003 Related to Browne, but involves a pregnant women and doesn't sound similiar.) Montel uses the phrase anyway Lane = Comes up with 14 shows (including two Jan 2007) with Browne, but none fit the criteria Only have easy access to transcripts from 2000ish on, but can't find anything. I did a search from 1995 to 2000 for transcripts and found this: Quote: Copyright 2001 Fox News Network, LLC Fox News Network SHOW: FOX THE EDGE WITH PAULA ZAHN (22:30) July 17, 2001 Tuesday Transcript # 071702cb.260 SECTION: News; Domestic LENGTH: 3824 words HEADLINE: The Chandra Levy Case GUESTS: William Bennett, Tim Haney, Nancy Grace, Jeralyn Merritt, Sylvia Browne BYLINE: Paula Zahn BODY: THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED. ... There's more on the Chandra Levy case. When we come back, world- renowned psychic Sylvia Browne will venture to THE EDGE. Does she have any idea where Chandra Levy is? ... (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SUSAN LEVY, CHANDRA LEVY'S MOTHER: I have fear, I'm scared, anxiety of a mother. I'm really in pain a lot. I just want my daughter home. I want her home soon alive. We grieve. Sometimes we laugh a little bit, but most of the time we're in a state of anxiety and deep depression. (END VIDEO CLIP) ZAHN: We are back with more on the search for Chandra Levy. Sylvia Browne is a psychic medium known around the world for her ability to help find missing children, and she has donated countless hours to helping police solve crimes. Sylvia has a new book out called "Past Lives, Future Healing." She joins us tonight from Los Angeles. Welcome. SYLVIA BROWNE, PSYCHIC AND SPIRITUAL TEACHER: Welcome. ZAHN: All right, Sylvia. As the search goes on in this park area not far from where Gary Condit lived and where Chandra Levy lived, I think it's interesting to note that recent surveys show that approximately 35 percent of urban U.S. police departments use psychics, 19 percent of rural departments use psychics. We contacted the Washington PD tonight, and they confirmed that they have been certainly been approached by psychics, but they have not consulted with one yet. BROWNE: Well, see, I never... ZAHN: If you were to consult with the PD, what would you tell them to do? Where should they be looking? BROWNE: Well, see, I never ambulance chase. They always, you know, call me. If I were to take a helicopter straight up and to look at this park, which makes sort of a square, except it's got a little bit of a point to it -- I haven't seen the -- you know, the topography of it. But to the left of this, if I were facing west, let's say, there's a marshy area. There are some trees down in a marshy area. In other words, when you step on this land, it looks like it could have been a seabed or something. It's a marshy area. This is where the body is. This girl -- I am sorry to tell you this, but this girl is not alive. ZAHN: How do you know that, Sylvia? Has this been something that you've been spending time... BROWNE: Well, Paula, you know... ZAHN: ... thinking about and analyzing? BROWNE: No, no. No. Paula, you know, you can either be one place or the other. If you're not here, you've got to be there. ZAHN: And why are you so convinced she's there?[tilde] BROWNE: Because I'm a psychic. I know where she -- I know she's there. She was gone very quickly after she was first missing. ZAHN: And do you have any insights as to how she got into trouble? BROWNE: Well, I won't go into all of that, but let me just say -- and this is certainly not accusing, but I think that a lot more is going to come out, that Condit knows a plot more than he's saying that he knows. I don't care what polygraph tests he takes or what he does. I think he's very familiar with where she was going, what she was going to do, how she felt, what frame of mind she was in, and he's not saying anything. ZAHN: All right. The police continue to tell us he is not a suspect, never has been, is not one tonight. Do you think he had something to do with her disappearance, or do you think he could just provide more clues as to what might have happened to her? BROWNE: I think he could certainly provide a hell of a lot more clues. Let me put it to you this way, that he's -- I mean, let's face it, not because he lied in the beginning, because who hasn't? You know, going way back to whoever. But the thing that bothers me the most is -- and we're going to have more women coming out of the woodwork, by the way, which is neither here nor there. But he knows a lot more of the clues than he's saying. And I think that's a terrible travesty to the family because, I mean, like you said earlier, I work with police for missing children. I have children, grandchildren. I love children. I mean, if it was my child -- you know, please come forward. If you're going to come forward and say -- first you don't have an affair, then you did. Well, then at least come forward and say that you knew she was on her way from here to there, and where she could have stopped and what could have happened. ZAHN: OK, let me ask you this, Sylvia. As you know, there are folk in our audience tonight who look at psychics with a great deal of cynicism. And they know the Levy family contacted -- or actually, a psychic contacted the family, and she did her own analysis. BROWNE: Yeah. ZAHN: And what she saw was -- the words "East" kept on coming up, and the words "Brookline" and that Chandra wants to go home, but she can't get out, I guess implying that she's trapped, not necessarily dead. So what do you say to folks who say, "Wait a minute." You know, "You psychics can have 110 different theories for what happened to Chandra"? BROWNE: I don't know about other psychics. I just keep very parochial in my own world, and I mean, my track record is pretty good. I mean, as I show on Montel's show, because we do follow-ups. I think if you're not good, they don't keep contacting you. I get a little concerned when the psychic contacts the family, though. I mean, that's sort of like ambulance chasing, like I said earlier. If you come to me, then I'll tell you, but me running around trying to get into the -- you know, the Blake case, the Chandra Levy -- no, no. I don't do that. I wouldn't have done that unless you called me. ZAHN: Actually, I may have misrepresented that. If I remember correctly, I think, actually, a friend of the family wanted to seek out the comfort level that the Levys have of seeing a psychic because somehow they came together. But the point well taken, that I understand you have a great disdain for people you think are preying on other folks. BROWNE: Exactly. ZAHN: Tell me how Chandra's -- the status of this investigation might square with some of the information in your new book, "Past Lives, Future Healing." BROWNE: Well, I think it -- not so much this, although we are going to write a mystery book. But I think it shows that life after life, time after time, we keep going through these horrible things -- and believe me, my heart goes out to that family -- is that we do chart these things, and these things keep recurring in our life until we do learn. That doesn't mean the Levy family has to keep coming back and losing a daughter. But I mean, all the horrible things that happen in life are for a reason, as amazing as it is, because, you know, like my grandmother used to tell me, who was a great psychic, within your weakness, there lies your strength sleeping. But I will tell the Levy family this, that for whatever they believe, she is very happy now. I mean, she -- see, I don't see her incarcerated anywhere. What do you mean? She was a healthy, strong girl. What do you mean, somebody's got her in a box somewhere, kept somewhere? That's stupid. ZAHN: Let me ask you this. You say you have a pretty good track record. How many criminal cases have you cracked open, or missing persons cases? BROWNE: Hundreds. I don't even know how to count. I have them on file. But I have hundreds. Hundreds. I mean, when I'm on Montel's show, I'll do six, seven, eight cases at once, and then he'll do a follow-up on them. ZAHN: Also, I know it will be tough for people to hear what the conclusion is that you've just arrived at. Are you sensitive to share that kind of information in such a public forum tonight here on TV... BROWNE: No, I... ZAHN: ... when the news... BROWNE: I think it's worse... (CROSSTALK) BROWNE: You know -- you know, Paula, I think it's worse not knowing, don't you think? I think -- and I do believe you never get closure. I hate that word, "closure." I don't know. I've lost so many people in my life. I don't know if you ever get closure on that. But I think false hope is also horrible, don't you think? I think that's terrible. I mean, every day, they're waiting -- and I heard a little bit before you came on - - the phone to ring, her to show up. That's horrifying. That's horrifying. ZAHN: One last question for you this evening, Sylvia. You've come to your own conclusions about what you think has happened to Chandra Levy. Once again, for the folks out there that put very little credence into either what you've seen or what you've heard, what do you say to them tonight? BROWNE: I don't care, Paula. I mean, you know, when you do your work for God and you do the best you can and your motive is pure, I don't care what people think. I mean, you can't. ZAHN: All right. Sylvia Browne, good to have you with us on THE EDGE tonight. Appreciate your joining us. BROWNE: It's good to be with you, Paula. ZAHN: You can read an excerpt of Sylvia's new book by logging onto our Web site at foxnews.com. And we want to thank you all for watching us at home tonight. We hope you have a great night. And thanks again for making us the fastest-growing show on cable TV. See you again tomorrow night.
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1st May 2007, 04:32 PM	#36
Kilgore Trout Wuse Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tralfamadore Posts: 1,443	Quote: I don't even know how to count. Very tempted to replace the quote I currently use with that one. More seriously, I'm absolutely appalled at the idea that she admitted that false hope is "horrible" and she gives exactly that. If this really is how she feels, and isn't totally and absolutely self-deluded, she's sadistic and evil. Stating the obvious, I suppose...
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