Browne wrong again: Eve Brown

Questioninggeller · 30th April 2007, 12:21 PM

Quote:

When All Else Fails,Try a Sixth Sense
Zachary R. Dowdy.
Newsday. Long Island, N.Y.: Oct 6, 1999. pg. A.45

The readings by astrologer Mary Rose of Bay Shore and Sylvia Browne, who appeared with Eve Brown's family in a nationally televised segment of "The Montel Williams Show" Thursday, are the latest examples of psychics using extrasensory insight in an effort to help police and desperate families crack Long Island mysteries.
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But like police, Eskin has gotten mixed messages from the two psychics she has consulted. Sylvia Browne, who could not be reached for comment, told her that Eve Brown is well and living in Florida, she said. Rose said that the family should continue to pray she is still alive.

"As hard as the police are working on it, they haven't found her," Eskin said.

"Since we have nothing to go on, we feel that maybe a psychic can help. We just want to feel that our daughter is alive."
...

On Montel's show Sylvia Browne said Eve Brown was alive and in Florida. Yet, Eve Brown's remains were found in Brooklyn 14 months after she went missing.

Quote:

Remains unearthed in Brooklyn are those of a missing woman.(Eve Brown)
Al Baker.
The New York Times (Nov 25, 2000 s0 pB6(L) col 5 (12 col): pB6(L).

Human remains unearthed by workers at a sprawling Brooklyn construction site 10 days ago were positively identified yesterday as those of Eve Brown, a Long Island woman, five months pregnant, who had been missing for more than a year, officials said.

Mrs. Brown, a counselor at a nursing home, was last seen on July 10, 1999, by her husband, Larry, as she drove away from their new home in Plainview. Mr. Brown told the police that his wife said she was going to visit a girlfriend in Freeport, but it was later discovered that Mrs. Brown's friend was vacationing in the Caribbean at the time.
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Detective Edward Reuss, a spokesman for the New York City Police Department, said workers found a human skull and human bones on the ground at 63-54 Belt Parkway at 11:25 a.m. on Nov. 15.

The workers were installing a fence between Pennsylvania Avenue and the Fresh Creek Basin near Starrett City, he said. The remains were taken to the office of the New York City medical examiner. Yesterday, they were identified as Mrs. Brown's through dental X-rays, said Ellen S. Borakove, a spokeswoman for the office.

''The cause of death has not yet been determined,'' Ms. Borakove said.
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At the time Mrs. Brown disappeared, Mr. Brown said that they had been married for five years and that it was unlike his wife to ''completely isolate herself and take off on her own.''
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Source

EeneyMinnieMoe · 30th April 2007, 12:57 PM

Isn't it sad how many of these cases go unsolved? First Holly Krewson and then Eve Brown.

scotth · 30th April 2007, 01:14 PM

What I think is funny.....

Sylvia claims something like a 95% accuracy rate, but in each and every case where the missing person claim could be compared to reality (when the person was later found either dead or alive), the accuracy is about nil.

ETA: To be clear, I find her accuracy rate to be funny, not the situation.

RSLancastr · 30th April 2007, 02:16 PM

This will go up on the site.

QG: Did the ME determine when she had died, and was that prior to the taping of the Montel show?

And, of course: transcript?

RSLancastr · 30th April 2007, 02:18 PM

http://www.evefoundation.com/

So sad...

PastBrowneFan · 30th April 2007, 02:24 PM

I only wish this information had been public years ago. Just shows that the string of misses has been going on for quite some years now, and the deception is deeper than those who are current B fans could even realize.

One would think that with her abnormally high proclaimed accuracy rate that she would provide proof of that, or that Heather would post the proof on GSB, but instead they hide within the office in Campbell, hoping this storm blows over.

I think the more of these stories that are public, and on SSB, the more difficult it becomes to really believe in the Psychic SB.

Great job.

EeneyMinnieMoe · 30th April 2007, 02:26 PM

I know, so sad.

And the person who did it to her is still free and unpunished.

Questioninggeller · 30th April 2007, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by RSLancastr

This will go up on the site.

QG: Did the ME determine when she had died, and was that prior to the taping of the Montel show?

I'll get back to you.

Originally Posted by RSLancastr

And, of course: transcript?

Sorry, its pre-2000 so no transcript.

Questioninggeller · 30th April 2007, 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by PastBrowneFan

One would think that with her abnormally high proclaimed accuracy rate that she would provide proof of that, or that Heather would post the proof on GSB, but instead they hide within the office in Campbell, hoping this storm blows over.
...
Great job.

If their waiting for the storm to blow over they better hunker down. These stories will not stop coming anytime soon.

As long as I have free time and Robert has his website, you'll be seeing more.

EeneyMinnieMoe · 30th April 2007, 09:59 PM

Woo-hoo! You go QG!

Here's something I've been thinking of doing for sometime: a while ago, I did a New York state papers search for Sylvia Browne and found many local papers reporting on local people going on Montel to ask her about missing person's cases. I did follow ups and found that all of those people were still missing- the "Missing" websites were still up and all.

So how about something that profiles some still missing cases SB has "worked on" over the years? It could be very powerful:

1999- Jane Roe's family appear on Montel

Police photo of Jane Roe and the caption "Jane Roe Still Missing"

2000- Person X's friends appear on Montel

Missing poster photo of Person X, "Person X Still Missing"

And so on.

Questioninggeller · 1st May 2007, 01:19 PM

More:

Quote:

The Associated Press State & Local Wire
April 20, 2001, Friday, BC cycle
SECTION: State and Regional
LENGTH: 132 words
HEADLINE: Death of missing Long Island woman ruled a homicide
DATELINE: NEW YORK

BODY:
Five months after the skeletal remains of a missing pregnant Long Island woman were found in Brooklyn, the medical examiner's office on Friday ruled her death a homicide.

But it is still not known how Eve Brown, 29, was killed, said Ellen Borakove, spokeswoman for the medical examiner's office. Brown's death was ruled a homicide based on how the woman was found Nov. 15, 2000 - she had been buried at a work site just off the Belt Parkway.
...

and

Quote:

The New York Post
November 11, 2002, Monday
SECTION: Late City Final Replate; Pg. 017
LENGTH: 200 words
HEADLINE: PREGNANT WOMAN'S '99 SLAY REOPENED
BYLINE: LARRY CELONA
BODY:

Detectives are continuing to press for leads in the cold murder case of a pregnant Long Island woman whose dismembered body was found stuffed into a plastic bag in a vacant Brooklyn lot, police said yesterday.
...
Police thought they had a break when they determined that Brown made a call from her cell phone the night of her disappearance.

Investigators were able to determine the call had been made from within a few blocks of the Valley Stream home of one of her co-workers, Patrick Kingland.

Detectives searched Kingland's house in February, took a DNA sample and brought him to Brooklyn for questioning - but the case remains open.

No, Florida.

30th April 2007, 12:21 PM	#1
Questioninggeller Illuminator Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,030	Browne wrong again: Eve Brown Quote: When All Else Fails,Try a Sixth Sense Zachary R. Dowdy. Newsday. Long Island, N.Y.: Oct 6, 1999. pg. A.45 The readings by astrologer Mary Rose of Bay Shore and Sylvia Browne, who appeared with Eve Brown's family in a nationally televised segment of "The Montel Williams Show" Thursday, are the latest examples of psychics using extrasensory insight in an effort to help police and desperate families crack Long Island mysteries. ... But like police, Eskin has gotten mixed messages from the two psychics she has consulted. Sylvia Browne, who could not be reached for comment, told her that Eve Brown is well and living in Florida, she said. Rose said that the family should continue to pray she is still alive. "As hard as the police are working on it, they haven't found her," Eskin said. "Since we have nothing to go on, we feel that maybe a psychic can help. We just want to feel that our daughter is alive." ... On Montel's show Sylvia Browne said Eve Brown was alive and in Florida. Yet, Eve Brown's remains were found in Brooklyn 14 months after she went missing. Quote: Remains unearthed in Brooklyn are those of a missing woman.(Eve Brown) Al Baker. The New York Times (Nov 25, 2000 s0 pB6(L) col 5 (12 col): pB6(L). Human remains unearthed by workers at a sprawling Brooklyn construction site 10 days ago were positively identified yesterday as those of Eve Brown, a Long Island woman, five months pregnant, who had been missing for more than a year, officials said. Mrs. Brown, a counselor at a nursing home, was last seen on July 10, 1999, by her husband, Larry, as she drove away from their new home in Plainview. Mr. Brown told the police that his wife said she was going to visit a girlfriend in Freeport, but it was later discovered that Mrs. Brown's friend was vacationing in the Caribbean at the time. ... Detective Edward Reuss, a spokesman for the New York City Police Department, said workers found a human skull and human bones on the ground at 63-54 Belt Parkway at 11:25 a.m. on Nov. 15. The workers were installing a fence between Pennsylvania Avenue and the Fresh Creek Basin near Starrett City, he said. The remains were taken to the office of the New York City medical examiner. Yesterday, they were identified as Mrs. Brown's through dental X-rays, said Ellen S. Borakove, a spokeswoman for the office. ''The cause of death has not yet been determined,'' Ms. Borakove said. ... At the time Mrs. Brown disappeared, Mr. Brown said that they had been married for five years and that it was unlike his wife to ''completely isolate herself and take off on her own.'' ... Source

30th April 2007, 01:14 PM	#3
scotth Atheist Political Candidate Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: DFW, TX area Posts: 1,801	What I think is funny..... Sylvia claims something like a 95% accuracy rate, but in each and every case where the missing person claim could be compared to reality (when the person was later found either dead or alive), the accuracy is about nil. ETA: To be clear, I find her accuracy rate to be funny, not the situation.
	__________________ "This is one of things that I find so dangerous about religion. It actually allows people who are perfectly healthy psychologically, and quite intelligent even, to believe things that only a lunatic or an idiot could believe on his own." - Sam Harris in an internet radio interview with www.rationalresponders.com Hurst Photography

30th April 2007, 02:16 PM	#4
RSLancastr www.StopSylvia.com Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Salem, Oregon Posts: 15,526	This will go up on the site. QG: Did the ME determine when she had died, and was that prior to the taping of the Montel show? And, of course: transcript?
	__________________ Who is "Kaz?" Read about her at www.StopKaz.com. Curious about Sylvia Browne? Read about her at www.StopSylvia.com. Ever wonder "What's the Harm?" with psychics, alternative medicine, etc?

30th April 2007, 02:18 PM	#5
RSLancastr www.StopSylvia.com Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Salem, Oregon Posts: 15,526	http://www.evefoundation.com/ So sad...
	__________________ Who is "Kaz?" Read about her at www.StopKaz.com. Curious about Sylvia Browne? Read about her at www.StopSylvia.com. Ever wonder "What's the Harm?" with psychics, alternative medicine, etc?

30th April 2007, 09:46 PM	#9
Questioninggeller Illuminator Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,030	Originally Posted by PastBrowneFan One would think that with her abnormally high proclaimed accuracy rate that she would provide proof of that, or that Heather would post the proof on GSB, but instead they hide within the office in Campbell, hoping this storm blows over. ... Great job. If their waiting for the storm to blow over they better hunker down. These stories will not stop coming anytime soon. As long as I have free time and Robert has his website, you'll be seeing more.
	Last edited by Questioninggeller; 30th April 2007 at 09:55 PM.

30th April 2007, 12:57 PM	#2
EeneyMinnieMoe Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,660	Isn't it sad how many of these cases go unsolved? First Holly Krewson and then Eve Brown.

30th April 2007, 02:24 PM	#6
PastBrowneFan Critical Thinker Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 373	I only wish this information had been public years ago. Just shows that the string of misses has been going on for quite some years now, and the deception is deeper than those who are current B fans could even realize. One would think that with her abnormally high proclaimed accuracy rate that she would provide proof of that, or that Heather would post the proof on GSB, but instead they hide within the office in Campbell, hoping this storm blows over. I think the more of these stories that are public, and on SSB, the more difficult it becomes to really believe in the Psychic SB. Great job.

30th April 2007, 02:26 PM	#7
EeneyMinnieMoe Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,660	I know, so sad. And the person who did it to her is still free and unpunished.

30th April 2007, 09:04 PM	#8
Questioninggeller Illuminator Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,030	Originally Posted by RSLancastr This will go up on the site. QG: Did the ME determine when she had died, and was that prior to the taping of the Montel show? I'll get back to you. Originally Posted by RSLancastr And, of course: transcript? Sorry, its pre-2000 so no transcript.

30th April 2007, 09:59 PM	#10
EeneyMinnieMoe Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,660	Woo-hoo! You go QG! Here's something I've been thinking of doing for sometime: a while ago, I did a New York state papers search for Sylvia Browne and found many local papers reporting on local people going on Montel to ask her about missing person's cases. I did follow ups and found that all of those people were still missing- the "Missing" websites were still up and all. So how about something that profiles some still missing cases SB has "worked on" over the years? It could be very powerful: 1999- Jane Roe's family appear on Montel Police photo of Jane Roe and the caption "Jane Roe Still Missing" 2000- Person X's friends appear on Montel Missing poster photo of Person X, "Person X Still Missing" And so on.

1st May 2007, 01:19 PM	#11
Questioninggeller Illuminator Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,030	More: Quote: The Associated Press State & Local Wire April 20, 2001, Friday, BC cycle SECTION: State and Regional LENGTH: 132 words HEADLINE: Death of missing Long Island woman ruled a homicide DATELINE: NEW YORK BODY: Five months after the skeletal remains of a missing pregnant Long Island woman were found in Brooklyn, the medical examiner's office on Friday ruled her death a homicide. But it is still not known how Eve Brown, 29, was killed, said Ellen Borakove, spokeswoman for the medical examiner's office. Brown's death was ruled a homicide based on how the woman was found Nov. 15, 2000 - she had been buried at a work site just off the Belt Parkway. ... and Quote: The New York Post November 11, 2002, Monday SECTION: Late City Final Replate; Pg. 017 LENGTH: 200 words HEADLINE: PREGNANT WOMAN'S '99 SLAY REOPENED BYLINE: LARRY CELONA BODY: Detectives are continuing to press for leads in the cold murder case of a pregnant Long Island woman whose dismembered body was found stuffed into a plastic bag in a vacant Brooklyn lot, police said yesterday. ... Police thought they had a break when they determined that Brown made a call from her cell phone the night of her disappearance. Investigators were able to determine the call had been made from within a few blocks of the Valley Stream home of one of her co-workers, Patrick Kingland. Detectives searched Kingland's house in February, took a DNA sample and brought him to Brooklyn for questioning - but the case remains open. No, Florida.