IE vs Firefox

The Great Hairy One · 2nd May 2007, 03:59 PM

Gidday all,

Article from the SMH this morning:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/web/firef...e#contentSwap1

Interesting to see that Firefox has 25% of the Oceanic market (as such, since it's free).

Whilst I like the browser, and use it in preference to IE, that haircut has to be worst I've seen in years...

Cheers,
TGHO

Sentzeu · 3rd May 2007, 01:18 PM

To me its a simple and well functioning browser. Its extension system is wonderful. Downloading Adblock Plus and setting it up with filterset.g and proper subscription, you get almost no commercials.

I also like its design and ease of use over explorer, but that is a subjective thing.

Of course the security is the real seller, and according to the big guys who knows this stuff, Firefox 2.0 is more sexcure than Explorer 7.

However there's an even bigger reason why I use firefox; I run Linux. ^,..,^

Brian Jackson · 3rd May 2007, 02:31 PM

I use Firefox for about 95% of my web browsing, but have noticed that V2 locks up on me during video playback, be it Flash clips (YouTube) or Media Player files. Then I use IE. Wish I knew what the problem is.

Stupendous Man · 3rd May 2007, 05:54 PM

I use firefox and have all my favorite extensions installed with it. I love it, and will never choose another browser. It almost never crashes, and when it does, you can pick up right where you left off because it remembers.

Angus McPresley · 5th May 2007, 01:42 AM

Firefox has probably already saved me many hours of waiting for page loads, thanks to its search field shortcut feature (e.g., to search for "foobar" in Wikipedia, I have it set up so I can just type "w foobar" in the url field, instead of having to stop off at the Wikipedia home page first).

Combine that with the fine array of add-ons, tabbed browsing, and the restore feature, and it's no contest.

Mobyseven · 5th May 2007, 06:17 AM

(Just to be difficult: ) Opera.

Discuss.

ChrisH · 5th May 2007, 06:39 AM

Originally Posted by Mobyseven

(Just to be difficult: ) Opera.

Discuss.

Just the best there is...! Leaves the others in the dust.

geni · 5th May 2007, 11:30 AM

sea monkey.

Pipirr · 5th May 2007, 12:57 PM

Opera, now with Speed Dial.

So awesomely amazing, I can't find words.

Brian Jackson · 5th May 2007, 01:36 PM

Thank you for the suggestion of Opera. I just installed it and so far I really like it. One question I have is when I go to the "speed Dial" setup page I get a message telling me that I need to upgrade my Flash player (which I just did) and/or enable JavaScript. I didn't see an apparent way to enable JavaScript within Opera's menu system. If this "Speed Dial" feature requires that, shouldn't it be enabled by default?

If anyone would be so kind as to walk me through enabling JavaScript I'd be most grateful.

Thank you.

Regards,
Brian Jackson

ClintonHammond · 5th May 2007, 01:54 PM

Another vote for SeaMonkey!

Mobyseven · 5th May 2007, 11:34 PM

Originally Posted by Brian Jackson

Thank you for the suggestion of Opera. I just installed it and so far I really like it. One question I have is when I go to the "speed Dial" setup page I get a message telling me that I need to upgrade my Flash player (which I just did) and/or enable JavaScript. I didn't see an apparent way to enable JavaScript within Opera's menu system. If this "Speed Dial" feature requires that, shouldn't it be enabled by default?

If anyone would be so kind as to walk me through enabling JavaScript I'd be most grateful.

Thank you.

Regards,
Brian Jackson

Tools ---> Quick Preferences ---> Enable JavaScript

That should just about do it!

I love Opera...powerful browser, and easy to use at the same time!

The Speed Dial feature just makes things even better!

The Great Hairy One · 7th May 2007, 12:05 AM

Originally Posted by Mobyseven

(Just to be difficult: ) Opera.

Discuss.

I used Opera for a while, but then they went commercial, and started to ask for money. I don't see any point in paying for a browser when perfectly good free ones are out there.

I tested browsers for Choice Magazine here in Australia, and Opera and Firefox were the best choices. IE6 was a dog.

Cheers,
TGHO

Pipirr · 7th May 2007, 04:47 AM

Opera is free now, and has been for a few years. No ads either. Just free.

I think the only people paying will be Wii Opera Channel users later this year, and then only if they want the internet on their Wii.

Just FYI

zooterkin · 7th May 2007, 06:45 AM

I use Firefox, and have since it first emerged as Phoenix; before that I had used Netscape, but that got bloated, and Mozilla was too big too. I tried Opera years ago, but was put off by the window interface it used then (sub-windows in one main window), and haven't seen a good reason to try it again.

Haven't tried IE7 yet; I have to use IE for some pages at work, but the IE tab extension copes with most of those in Firefox.

Apathia · 7th May 2007, 08:56 AM

For some reason Firefox is very slow to load and tends to freeze on my stupid old comp (over three years old and contains Intel stuff). So I gave up on it even though IE is a minefield of security issues.

Daald · 7th May 2007, 09:03 AM

I use both. It's like choosing between two screwdrivers. They both get the job done and that's all I care about.

Molinaro · 7th May 2007, 05:02 PM

I used Firefox on my win2k machine for a year. I havn't installed it yet on my xp machine I bought 5 months ago. I don't miss it.

cafink · 8th May 2007, 06:30 AM

I love Firefox dearly. The "tabbed" browsing thing seemed like a pointless novelty at first, but now it's my favorite feature. I like being able to peruse the main forum page, middle-clicking interesting topics to open them in tabs, so I can then work through them all one after the other. This is much more convenient than navigating back-and-forth between the main forum page and individual topics.

We have to use IE for Internet browsing at work, and until I was forced to go back to IE, I hadn't realized how accustomed I'd become to Firefox's interface, the tabs in particular.

The search bar is convenient and elegantly inegrated, as well.

In short, I just love everything about Firefox.

Molinaro · 8th May 2007, 10:00 AM

Sounds like you went back to an old version of IE. Version 7 has the same tabbed browsing.

cafink · 9th May 2007, 06:38 PM

Yeah, we're still stuck with the previous version at work.

I've tried version 7 at home, and while it's an improvement (the tabbed interface in particular), I still feel that Firefox is better by a country mile.

LawnOven · 10th May 2007, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by The Great Hairy One

Gidday all...

Whilst I like the browser, and use it in preference to IE, that haircut has to be worst I've seen in years...

Cheers,
TGHO

Good lord, a sideways femmullet.

Business in the... um, on the left, party... on the right?

JonnyFive · 10th May 2007, 12:24 PM

I like both of them. Really, I don't see much of a difference to get huffy about. They each have strengths and weaknesses, but in the end I find them to pretty much be the same thing. Firefox is clearly superior to IE 6, with tabbed browsing and all, but IE 7 pretty much closed that gap. I have to say I like the layout of Firefox's toolbar a bit more.

I used Opera a bit too, but didn't like it much. It was all right, I guess, but never caught on for me.

Rasmus · 10th May 2007, 12:33 PM

I love my Firefox. I haven't tried IE7 yet - until it gives me the same crash recovery, mouse gestures, permanent tabs, and a good hanful of other features that I can easily extend FF with I see no reason to try, either.

JonnyFive · 10th May 2007, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by Rasmus

I love my Firefox. I haven't tried IE7 yet - until it gives me the same crash recovery, mouse gestures, permanent tabs, and a good hanful of other features that I can easily extend FF with I see no reason to try, either.

It's like Firefox, only not Firefox.

Personally, I don't use any of that fancy hippie crap, so I'm happy with either, now that IE supports tabbed browsing.

Rasmus · 10th May 2007, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by JonnyFive

It's like Firefox, only not Firefox.

Personally, I don't use any of that fancy hippie crap, so I'm happy with either, now that IE supports tabbed browsing.

You don't know what you're missing.

JonnyFive · 10th May 2007, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by Rasmus

You don't know what you're missing.

Actually, I just downloaded the mouse gestures addon, and I take back the hippie crap comment. Rocker commands are awesome!

I tried permanent tabs too, but I don't much care for them.

2nd May 2007, 03:59 PM	#1
The Great Hairy One Chief Cdr Scientist, NWO Cloning Labs Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,066	IE vs Firefox Gidday all, Article from the SMH this morning: http://www.smh.com.au/news/web/firef...e#contentSwap1 Interesting to see that Firefox has 25% of the Oceanic market (as such, since it's free). Whilst I like the browser, and use it in preference to IE, that haircut has to be worst I've seen in years... Cheers, TGHO
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3rd May 2007, 01:18 PM	#2
Sentzeu New Blood Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: HammySpace Posts: 20	To me its a simple and well functioning browser. Its extension system is wonderful. Downloading Adblock Plus and setting it up with filterset.g and proper subscription, you get almost no commercials. I also like its design and ease of use over explorer, but that is a subjective thing. Of course the security is the real seller, and according to the big guys who knows this stuff, Firefox 2.0 is more sexcure than Explorer 7. However there's an even bigger reason why I use firefox; I run Linux. ^,..,^
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3rd May 2007, 05:54 PM	#4
Stupendous Man Suspended Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 120	I use firefox and have all my favorite extensions installed with it. I love it, and will never choose another browser. It almost never crashes, and when it does, you can pick up right where you left off because it remembers.
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5th May 2007, 01:42 AM	#5
Angus McPresley Muse Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 645	Firefox has probably already saved me many hours of waiting for page loads, thanks to its search field shortcut feature (e.g., to search for "foobar" in Wikipedia, I have it set up so I can just type "w foobar" in the url field, instead of having to stop off at the Wikipedia home page first). Combine that with the fine array of add-ons, tabbed browsing, and the restore feature, and it's no contest.
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5th May 2007, 06:17 AM	#6
Mobyseven President of Covert-Ops Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Not the Rat. Posts: 5,672	(Just to be difficult: ) Opera. Discuss.
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3rd May 2007, 02:31 PM	#3
Brian Jackson Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 1,024	I use Firefox for about 95% of my web browsing, but have noticed that V2 locks up on me during video playback, be it Flash clips (YouTube) or Media Player files. Then I use IE. Wish I knew what the problem is.

5th May 2007, 06:39 AM	#7
ChrisH Thinker Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 146	Originally Posted by Mobyseven (Just to be difficult: ) Opera. Discuss. Just the best there is...! Leaves the others in the dust.
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5th May 2007, 11:30 AM	#8
geni Anti-homeopathy illuminati member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: UK Posts: 26,552	sea monkey.

5th May 2007, 12:57 PM	#9
Pipirr Graduate Poster Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: North Posts: 1,457	Opera, now with Speed Dial. So awesomely amazing, I can't find words.

5th May 2007, 01:36 PM	#10
Brian Jackson Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 1,024	Thank you for the suggestion of Opera. I just installed it and so far I really like it. One question I have is when I go to the "speed Dial" setup page I get a message telling me that I need to upgrade my Flash player (which I just did) and/or enable JavaScript. I didn't see an apparent way to enable JavaScript within Opera's menu system. If this "Speed Dial" feature requires that, shouldn't it be enabled by default? If anyone would be so kind as to walk me through enabling JavaScript I'd be most grateful. Thank you. Regards, Brian Jackson

5th May 2007, 01:54 PM	#11
ClintonHammond Guest Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Windsor Ontario Canada Posts: 871	Another vote for SeaMonkey!

5th May 2007, 11:34 PM	#12
Mobyseven President of Covert-Ops Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Not the Rat. Posts: 5,672	Originally Posted by Brian Jackson Thank you for the suggestion of Opera. I just installed it and so far I really like it. One question I have is when I go to the "speed Dial" setup page I get a message telling me that I need to upgrade my Flash player (which I just did) and/or enable JavaScript. I didn't see an apparent way to enable JavaScript within Opera's menu system. If this "Speed Dial" feature requires that, shouldn't it be enabled by default? If anyone would be so kind as to walk me through enabling JavaScript I'd be most grateful. Thank you. Regards, Brian Jackson Tools ---> Quick Preferences ---> Enable JavaScript That should just about do it! I love Opera...powerful browser, and easy to use at the same time! The Speed Dial feature just makes things even better!
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7th May 2007, 12:05 AM	#13
The Great Hairy One Chief Cdr Scientist, NWO Cloning Labs Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,066	Originally Posted by Mobyseven (Just to be difficult: ) Opera. Discuss. I used Opera for a while, but then they went commercial, and started to ask for money. I don't see any point in paying for a browser when perfectly good free ones are out there. I tested browsers for Choice Magazine here in Australia, and Opera and Firefox were the best choices. IE6 was a dog. Cheers, TGHO
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7th May 2007, 04:47 AM	#14
Pipirr Graduate Poster Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: North Posts: 1,457	Opera is free now, and has been for a few years. No ads either. Just free. I think the only people paying will be Wii Opera Channel users later this year, and then only if they want the internet on their Wii. Just FYI

7th May 2007, 06:45 AM	#15
zooterkin Nitpicking dilettante Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Berkshire, mostly Posts: 24,531	I use Firefox, and have since it first emerged as Phoenix; before that I had used Netscape, but that got bloated, and Mozilla was too big too. I tried Opera years ago, but was put off by the window interface it used then (sub-windows in one main window), and haven't seen a good reason to try it again. Haven't tried IE7 yet; I have to use IE for some pages at work, but the IE tab extension copes with most of those in Firefox.

7th May 2007, 08:56 AM	#16
Apathia Master Poster Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 2,936	For some reason Firefox is very slow to load and tends to freeze on my stupid old comp (over three years old and contains Intel stuff). So I gave up on it even though IE is a minefield of security issues.

7th May 2007, 09:03 AM	#17
Daald Critical Thinker Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 423	I use both. It's like choosing between two screwdrivers. They both get the job done and that's all I care about.

7th May 2007, 05:02 PM	#18
Molinaro Illuminator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 3,022	I used Firefox on my win2k machine for a year. I havn't installed it yet on my xp machine I bought 5 months ago. I don't miss it.
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8th May 2007, 06:30 AM	#19
cafink Thinker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: New Orleans Posts: 140	I love Firefox dearly. The "tabbed" browsing thing seemed like a pointless novelty at first, but now it's my favorite feature. I like being able to peruse the main forum page, middle-clicking interesting topics to open them in tabs, so I can then work through them all one after the other. This is much more convenient than navigating back-and-forth between the main forum page and individual topics. We have to use IE for Internet browsing at work, and until I was forced to go back to IE, I hadn't realized how accustomed I'd become to Firefox's interface, the tabs in particular. The search bar is convenient and elegantly inegrated, as well. In short, I just love everything about Firefox.

8th May 2007, 10:00 AM	#20
Molinaro Illuminator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 3,022	Sounds like you went back to an old version of IE. Version 7 has the same tabbed browsing.
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9th May 2007, 06:38 PM	#21
cafink Thinker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: New Orleans Posts: 140	Yeah, we're still stuck with the previous version at work. I've tried version 7 at home, and while it's an improvement (the tabbed interface in particular), I still feel that Firefox is better by a country mile.

10th May 2007, 12:09 PM	#22
LawnOven robot Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,306	Originally Posted by The Great Hairy One Gidday all... Whilst I like the browser, and use it in preference to IE, that haircut has to be worst I've seen in years... Cheers, TGHO Good lord, a sideways femmullet. Business in the... um, on the left, party... on the right?
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10th May 2007, 12:24 PM	#23
JonnyFive Insurance Underwriter of Doom Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4,473	I like both of them. Really, I don't see much of a difference to get huffy about. They each have strengths and weaknesses, but in the end I find them to pretty much be the same thing. Firefox is clearly superior to IE 6, with tabbed browsing and all, but IE 7 pretty much closed that gap. I have to say I like the layout of Firefox's toolbar a bit more. I used Opera a bit too, but didn't like it much. It was all right, I guess, but never caught on for me.
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10th May 2007, 12:33 PM	#24
Rasmus Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 6,138	I love my Firefox. I haven't tried IE7 yet - until it gives me the same crash recovery, mouse gestures, permanent tabs, and a good hanful of other features that I can easily extend FF with I see no reason to try, either.
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10th May 2007, 12:41 PM	#25
JonnyFive Insurance Underwriter of Doom Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4,473	Originally Posted by Rasmus I love my Firefox. I haven't tried IE7 yet - until it gives me the same crash recovery, mouse gestures, permanent tabs, and a good hanful of other features that I can easily extend FF with I see no reason to try, either. It's like Firefox, only not Firefox. Personally, I don't use any of that fancy hippie crap, so I'm happy with either, now that IE supports tabbed browsing.
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10th May 2007, 12:44 PM	#26
Rasmus Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 6,138	Originally Posted by JonnyFive It's like Firefox, only not Firefox. Personally, I don't use any of that fancy hippie crap, so I'm happy with either, now that IE supports tabbed browsing. You don't know what you're missing.
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10th May 2007, 12:58 PM	#27
JonnyFive Insurance Underwriter of Doom Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4,473	Originally Posted by Rasmus You don't know what you're missing. Actually, I just downloaded the mouse gestures addon, and I take back the hippie crap comment. Rocker commands are awesome! I tried permanent tabs too, but I don't much care for them.
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