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knot · 6th May 2007, 01:53 PM

This video entry is relatively new and interesting to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG390...elated&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9axzG...elated&search=

Cl1mh4224rd · 6th May 2007, 03:13 PM

This is ooold.

As to Bob Lazar, his claims are questionable, at best. For example, I believe he claimed that "element 115" is used to power the crafts he studied. This element, Ununpentium, was recently discovered, but exhibits none of the properties he described it as having.

JAStewart · 6th May 2007, 03:20 PM

I believe in life out side of Earth, but I don't believe that the Government is in cahoots with Aliens.

I believe that the Govt have built crafts just to try and develop the ability to hover and whatnot but I don't believe that they are behind the UFO's.

gumboot · 6th May 2007, 03:28 PM

The best explanation I ever heard for the Roswell crash was that a US military aircraft carrying live nuclear weapons crashed. It fits all of the evidence very neatly (even the alien stories make sense, as the govt would prefer these being propagated over the truth).

-Gumboot

knot · 6th May 2007, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by Cl1mh4224rd

This is ooold.

As to Bob Lazar, his claims are questionable, at best. For example, I believe he claimed that "element 115" is used to power the crafts he studied. This element, Ununpentium, was recently discovered, but exhibits none of the properties he described it as having.

Maybe old but it's new to me and it's dated January 13, 2007 as being uploaded

Axiom_Blade · 6th May 2007, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by gumboot

The best explanation I ever heard for the Roswell crash was that a US military aircraft carrying live nuclear weapons crashed. It fits all of the evidence very neatly (even the alien stories make sense, as the govt would prefer these being propagated over the truth).

-Gumboot

I thought it was some sort of a spy balloon. I remember reading about it in Carl Sagan's Candle in the Dark, but my memory's foggy.

gumboot · 6th May 2007, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by Axiom_Blade

I thought it was some sort of a spy balloon. I remember reading about it in Carl Sagan's Candle in the Dark, but my memory's foggy.

Yeah that's the official military account.

I'm probably thinking of a different one.

Apparently one of the more compelling UFO stories comes from where I grew up in Marlborough, New Zealand.

-Gumboot

NeoRicen · 6th May 2007, 07:45 PM

Roswell has been pretty much completely explained as being Project Mogul.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Mogul

I 'believe' in Aliens but it's more of a probablility thing, I'm open to the idea there is intelligent life SOMEWHERE on the Universe (there's bound to be at least one other intelligence). However I don't think they've come anywhere near us, there may not even be any in this galaxy.

6th May 2007, 01:53 PM	#1
knot Critical Thinker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: The Great Northwest Posts: 381	UFO - government cover up? This video entry is relatively new and interesting to me. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG390...elated&search= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9axzG...elated&search=

6th May 2007, 03:20 PM	#3
JAStewart Graduate Poster Tagger Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Shetland Islands Posts: 1,523	I believe in life out side of Earth, but I don't believe that the Government is in cahoots with Aliens. I believe that the Govt have built crafts just to try and develop the ability to hover and whatnot but I don't believe that they are behind the UFO's.
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6th May 2007, 03:28 PM	#4
gumboot lorcutus.tolere Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New Zealand Posts: 23,196	The best explanation I ever heard for the Roswell crash was that a US military aircraft carrying live nuclear weapons crashed. It fits all of the evidence very neatly (even the alien stories make sense, as the govt would prefer these being propagated over the truth). -Gumboot
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6th May 2007, 07:16 PM	#7
gumboot lorcutus.tolere Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New Zealand Posts: 23,196	Originally Posted by Axiom_Blade I thought it was some sort of a spy balloon. I remember reading about it in Carl Sagan's Candle in the Dark, but my memory's foggy. Yeah that's the official military account. I'm probably thinking of a different one. Apparently one of the more compelling UFO stories comes from where I grew up in Marlborough, New Zealand. -Gumboot
	__________________ O xein', angellein Lakedaimoniois hoti têde keimetha tois keinon rhémasi peithomenoi. A fan of fantasy? Check out Project Dreamforge.

6th May 2007, 07:45 PM	#8
NeoRicen Critical Thinker Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 444	Roswell has been pretty much completely explained as being Project Mogul. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Mogul I 'believe' in Aliens but it's more of a probablility thing, I'm open to the idea there is intelligent life SOMEWHERE on the Universe (there's bound to be at least one other intelligence). However I don't think they've come anywhere near us, there may not even be any in this galaxy.
NeoRicen Critical Thinker Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 444

6th May 2007, 03:13 PM	#2
Cl1mh4224rd Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Pennsylvania, USA Posts: 6,618	This is ooold. As to Bob Lazar, his claims are questionable, at best. For example, I believe he claimed that "element 115" is used to power the crafts he studied. This element, Ununpentium, was recently discovered, but exhibits none of the properties he described it as having.

6th May 2007, 06:16 PM	#5
knot Critical Thinker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: The Great Northwest Posts: 381	Originally Posted by Cl1mh4224rd This is ooold. As to Bob Lazar, his claims are questionable, at best. For example, I believe he claimed that "element 115" is used to power the crafts he studied. This element, Ununpentium, was recently discovered, but exhibits none of the properties he described it as having. Maybe old but it's new to me and it's dated January 13, 2007 as being uploaded

6th May 2007, 06:26 PM	#6
Axiom_Blade Graduate Poster Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,761	Originally Posted by gumboot The best explanation I ever heard for the Roswell crash was that a US military aircraft carrying live nuclear weapons crashed. It fits all of the evidence very neatly (even the alien stories make sense, as the govt would prefer these being propagated over the truth). -Gumboot I thought it was some sort of a spy balloon. I remember reading about it in Carl Sagan's Candle in the Dark, but my memory's foggy.