"And now I can die happy"- Dylan Avery

Undesired Walrus · 5th June 2007, 09:43 AM

Now I can make another thread.. It's been a day.. I didn't want to distract everyone from smoke signals in 'No ad hom please'

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Ch...howtopic=10382

Dylan sums up what he really wants from making loose change.. not justice, not truth, not the real murderers of 3000 people...

...but an endorsement from Kevin Smith.

Oh Dylan, Dylan, Dylan....

I especially like this quote, "I just wanted to make a movie".. disgusting really...

Originally Posted by Dylan Avery

QUOTE (Mark Dice @ Jun 5 2007, 02:07 AM)
Dylan....your life hasn't even begun. once LCFC hits...you'll have full access to practically anything. Just hook me up with a press pass for the oscars, would ya? I want to hassel celebs on the red carpet. ...and hit on a few too.
==============

Crazy, man. Absolutely crazy. I just wanted to make a movie.

chipmunk stew · 5th June 2007, 09:51 AM

Could you quote the OP for those of us who can only reach the site by proxy?

Undesired Walrus · 5th June 2007, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by chipmunk stew

Could you quote the OP for those of us who can only reach the site by proxy?

All I can think is, "He directed Dogma... Dogma... one of the worst films I ever saw!"

Originally Posted by D'Oh-It's-All-Over-Dylan

Seriously, Clerks was one of the first independent films I saw that I truly enjoyed. Korey and I were actually doing our paper route one morning and I came back home, turned on HBO, and caught the ending. I desperately looked for the next airing...and I've been a huge Smith fan since then. The sequel, personally, couldn't have been better done.

So imagine my surprise, and delight, when I hear this:
http://www.quickstopentertainment.com/?p=4407
http://www.quickstopentertainment.co...Modcast-14.mp3 (Direct Link)

Personally, I always sucked at Geometry. And I've never claimed to be the next James Earl Jones.
:lol:

And I wished Kevin had addressed a better issue than the "jet engine" one, which is up for debate, but hey. Great plug. He'll love the next edition even more.

Seriously...I was jumping up and down. I've wanted to hear this for a while now.

Btw, tomorrow, I'll be hosting LTW Radio by myself, and I'll probably have Luke on to talk about what's been going on.

If Dylan enjoyed the "biblical deluge of awfulness(RossTM)" that was Clerks 2, his next movie...well...

R.Mackey · 5th June 2007, 10:08 AM

I happen to like Kevin Smith. Doesn't mean I expect him to refute NIST.

However, it's also possible that Mr. Smith is merely looking for someone to replace Jason Mewes... I can think of a few candidates.

Civilized Worm · 5th June 2007, 10:37 AM

Clerks and Mallrats were OK, and some of his comics when he got around to writing them. Really though he's one of the most overrated people on the planet.

Unsecured Coins · 5th June 2007, 10:51 AM

I just read that thread at his forums and it dawned on me just now how diluted they are. What caught me was the "you still have a revolution starting movie to release" comment. Do these people really believe that if/when/once LCFC is released, the people will rise up, the masses will march, and at the end of a long epic struggle, the government will be toppled, but during said revolution "normal" life will go on as "planned"? If there was any reason why I should feel no pity or remorse for them when the bottom drops out of their sad pathetic gathering it would be this. All of them have only one thing going through their one track/stop light mind, and that's to be known as part of the group that "brought America back to the peoples" using their internetz skillz and combat tactics learned in Halo. They full expect a Red Dawn style campaign AND The Oscars to go on at the same time? Give me a BREAK. It's not funny anymore.

Triterope · 5th June 2007, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by Unsecured Coins

All of them have only one thing going through their one track/stop light mind, and that's to be known as part of the group that "brought America back to the peoples" using their internetz skillz and combat tactics learned in Halo.

And they can't even stay focused on that goal. For someone who has a revolution-starting movie to finish in three months, Dylan Avery sure has a lot of free time to bicker with Killtown.

JAStewart · 5th June 2007, 11:50 AM

I love Kevin Smith, his movies are amazing, I've almost met him... at Edinburgh 2006 I got tickets for the UK premier of Clerks II and I got to ask him a question (from the audience).

However, should he go onto 9/11 denial I shall have to not watch a single second of his flicks until he retracts his statements.

Gravy · 5th June 2007, 11:52 AM

Oh. I thought Avery was making a promise.

Hourglassmemory · 5th June 2007, 11:58 AM

I guess I understand Avery when he says "I just wanted to make a movie"
the thing is that he chose probably the worst subject he could have ever chosen.
People make mistakes, Mr. Avery.

Undesired Walrus · 5th June 2007, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by Gravy

Oh. I thought Avery was making a promise.

*Sharp intake of breath*

The Demon's Head · 5th June 2007, 12:13 PM

Kevin Smith? Ha ha. I only respect that guy because of Clerks. I really can't respect him for his literary works at Marvel. Some of his work at Marvel was nothing more than disease ridden filth.

Creating threads like this one seems to only do one positive thing for Avery, and that is expanding his ego. Might it be better to discuss the conspiracy theory than discussing the theorist?

Alt+F4 · 5th June 2007, 03:10 PM

Kevin Smith's co-host says, in regard to Dylan's narration of LC: "It's not like it's James Earle Jones narrating it. It's like this whiney [rule 8]ing mousey little kid."

Smith found that comment quite amusing. BTW, Smith does call LC "riviting", but not because he believes it to be true, but rather the way it slams you with so much information all at once (not enough time to process).

Most of the broadcast revolved aliens from outer space. They mock an Internet documentary about aliens landing on earth and Smith calls it the "Loose Change of UFO documentaries."

It's beyond me how Dylan Avery could consider any of this an endorcement.

Arus808 · 5th June 2007, 03:15 PM

anyone have a clip on this so we can get hte entire context?

Unsecured Coins · 5th June 2007, 03:21 PM

i will shortly

Alt+F4 · 5th June 2007, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by Arus808

anyone have a clip on this so we can get hte entire context?

It's at the 4:00 minute mark.

http://www.quickstopentertainment.com/podp...SModcast-14.mp3

Gravy · 5th June 2007, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by Hourglassmemory

I guess I understand Avery when he says "I just wanted to make a movie"
the thing is that he chose probably the worst subject he could have ever chosen.
People make mistakes, Mr. Avery.

Give him some credit. He set out to make a fictional film and succeeded completely.

Alt+F4 · 5th June 2007, 03:31 PM

Oh, it get's even better...

Dylan goes to Kevin Smith's website forum and posts:

Originally Posted by Dylan Avery

Hey Kevin...I'm the director of Loose Change
And I gotta tell you man, I've been a long time fan of your work. If you want to hear the boring story, I posted it here:
http://loosechange911.blogspot.com/2...-smell-it.html

Anyway, I just wanted to thank you guys for plugging the film, and I eagerly await your review of the Final Cut.

The regular posters there rip him a new one, big time:

Quote:

KEvin does not post here and he hates SPAM....ALMOST as much as we do.

Quote:

I thought "Loose Change" was one of the most entertaining pieces of fiction I have seen in quite some time.

Quote:

Loose Change lost me when the nutjobs who created it failed to reveal the real perpetrator of the 9/11 conspiracy. BIGFOOT! How the [rule 8] can you create a documentary about 9/11 and miss the obvious?! Are you stupid? Seriously.

Quote:

Why don't you go to Kevin's main website, you know the one where he posts at, make your little post about your film and see how fast they line up to skin you alive. Including Kevin...

Those are just a few of the posts, the entire beat-down can be read here:

http://www.quickstopentertainment.co...ead.php?t=7305

Arus808 · 5th June 2007, 03:36 PM

the comment by marksiwel is a nice one ^_^...and he gives kudos to Mark Roberts for handing Dylan's @## ^_^

Unsecured Coins · 5th June 2007, 03:41 PM

Oh my Damn.

Oh my F'n Damn.

Undesired Walrus · 5th June 2007, 03:46 PM

What Avery bad move.

Undesired Walrus · 5th June 2007, 03:48 PM

Also, who did this?

YouTube Video This video is not hosted by the JREF. The JREF can not be held responsible for the suitability or legality of this material. By clicking the link below you agree to view content from an external website.

I AGREE

It was mentioned on that forum.

Civilized Worm · 5th June 2007, 03:49 PM

Wow, I guess even Kevin Smith films aren't buying this ****.

Pardalis · 5th June 2007, 03:52 PM

I don't think Avery got it, I think Kevin Smith is actually making fun of the movie.

Alareth · 5th June 2007, 03:53 PM

Well, it seems Kevin Smiths fans are blessed with critical thinking skills

gumboot · 5th June 2007, 03:58 PM

Anyone who doesn't think much of Kevin Smith, let me restore it with this clip:

YouTube Video This video is not hosted by the JREF. The JREF can not be held responsible for the suitability or legality of this material. By clicking the link below you agree to view content from an external website.

I AGREE

-Gumboot

Pardalis · 5th June 2007, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by gumboot

Anyone who doesn't think much of Kevin Smith, let me restore it with this clip:

YouTube Video This video is not hosted by the JREF. The JREF can not be held responsible for the suitability or legality of this material. By clicking the link below you agree to view content from an external website.

I AGREE

-Gumboot

One thing is for sure, Kevin Smith is a heck of a storyteller.

Unsecured Coins · 5th June 2007, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by Undesired Walrus

What Avery bad move.

I just got that.

Arus808 · 5th June 2007, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by gumboot

Anyone who doesn't think much of Kevin Smith, let me restore it with this clip:

YouTube Video This video is not hosted by the JREF. The JREF can not be held responsible for the suitability or legality of this material. By clicking the link below you agree to view content from an external website.

I AGREE

-Gumboot

haha excellent.

8den · 5th June 2007, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by gumboot

Anyone who doesn't think much of Kevin Smith, let me restore it with this clip:

YouTube Video This video is not hosted by the JREF. The JREF can not be held responsible for the suitability or legality of this material. By clicking the link below you agree to view content from an external website.

I AGREE

-Gumboot

The man is an exceptional funny and gifted verbal storyteller. His work on Daredevil comicbook was excellent, and his more talkie films (jersey girl aside) are the better ones. An evening with Kevin Smith is hilarious and anyone who can recount an ancedote and look at himself witha bemused sardonic grin is worthy of at least some respect.

As to the interview, it's fairly clear smith and whathisface Jay are ripping the piss out of Loose Change, it is rulefreaking8 that Dylan assumes, that just by being mentioned by Smith he is validated by Smith. Watching his beat down by Smith's forum members is very schadenfreuden, but very pleasant.

Awww Dylan didn't figure ouw hiz eroe was laughing at him...

Brainster · 5th June 2007, 05:43 PM

If anybody wants to see the "Loose Change of UFO Films" it's here I've watched it for about 10 minutes and it is certainly entertaining and has a catchy beat and far better production values. The music is too loud to hear the talking in places. But the description of the film seems accurate; it bombards you with "facts" just like Loose Change did.

Undesired Walrus · 5th June 2007, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by Brainster

If anybody wants to see the "Loose Change of UFO Films" it's here I've watched it for about 10 minutes and it is certainly entertaining and has a catchy beat and far better production values. The music is too loud to hear the talking in places. But the description of the film seems accurate; it bombards you with "facts" just like Loose Change did.

See, it's interesting, I think it would be really cruel to do a "Screw UFO Greatest Story Ever Told", but somehow I would never feel that way about a 9/11 truth flick. Why is that?

Foolmewunz · 5th June 2007, 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by Gravy

Oh. I thought Avery was making a promise.

There is something cynical about us New Yorkers..... I had a dark vision of my own when I saw this thread.

Am I evil because I read the thread title and was hoping it was a quote from a suicide note (okay let's make it a failed attempt at suicide so as to maintain my pacifist leanings)?

Brainster · 5th June 2007, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by Undesired Walrus

See, it's interesting, I think it would be really cruel to do a "Screw UFO Greatest Story Ever Told", but somehow I would never feel that way about a 9/11 truth flick. Why is that?

Probably because the UFOlogists aren't accusing other people of mass murder?

qarnos · 5th June 2007, 07:08 PM

Originally Posted by Dylan @ quickstop

Spam? Umm...I'm the director of the film he mentioned on today's show. I'm thanking him and telling him how much I appreciate his work. And I'm sure the mods are in touch with him on a regular basis, as much as I am with the mods of my forum. So I'd appreciate you not being a dick about it. Thanks.

Firstly, I hope Dylan isn't comparing himself to Kevin Smith. Secondly - didn't the old LCF go into meltdown because Dylan didn't communicate with his mods?

Foolmewunz · 5th June 2007, 07:35 PM

Well, the mods at Quickstopentertainment closed the thread. But not before a lovely smackdown, I dare say.

Dylan must be reeling. He probably thought he'd get the usual, "Hey, wow, it's DA... You da man!" responses he gets from his greasy fanboys.

Here's the best post in the thread, in its entirety. I love this guy!!! I bolded the best parts and will rely on the auto-censor to clean up the naughty bits.

Quote:

Actually, that was me being nice... but I can be a dick.

1st:
The fact that you are the director means you have a personal stake in the out-come of your project, which is why it is SPAM....You *********** retard. You are pawning you film off on this site without so much as stopping by and saying, hey how's it going.

2nd:
The mods might be in touch with Kevin on a regular Basis, but guess what they are not going to tell him about your film. Because they hate you. I hate you. Everyone hates you.
3rd:
Why don't you go to Kevin's main website, you know the one where he posts at, make your little post about your film and see how fast they line up to skin you alive. Including Kevin...

http://wwww.viewaskew.com

We get about 30 to 40 of you ****s a year dude, Sorry to tell you but you are nothing but a spammer.

Later.

ETA: Auto-censor worked.

negativ · 5th June 2007, 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by Unsecured Coins

They full expect a Red Dawn style campaign AND The Oscars to go on at the same time? Give me a BREAK. It's not funny anymore.

No, they do not at all expect "Red Dawn". They think a revolution happens when enough people smoke weed and carry agitprop signs around depicting Bush with Hitler mustaches painted on.

They expect that the "rest" of Teh PEoplz will look out the window and see all this weed smoking and sign-carrying and say, "huh... I never thought of that before. I bet they're right!"

Then they'll all march together down to the whitehouse, chanting their jump-rope rhymes in unison through chrome-plated megaphones of revolutionary destiny. They'll knock on the door and DEMAND JUSTICE, which apparently is sort of like going to Wal-Mart and asking for a refund for a defective product.

They all live hiply ever after.

I don't know of any examples in history where revolutions played out like that. The only ones I can think of involved rivers of blood in the streets... heads tumbling into baskets... "traitors" shot at dawn / dusk / noon / midnight / that odd bit of time that some people call "brunch" / etc... towns set ablaze... imprisonment and/or summary executions of entire families. It's much more likely to be" Please Don't Torture My Family, Dear Commrade" than "Don't Bogart That Joint, My Friend".

Mobyseven · 5th June 2007, 08:16 PM

Whew, for a minute there I thought I was going to have to cry over the loss of the man who directed Clerks and Chasing Amy to the 9/11 truth movement. But, thank Ed, that need not be the case.

Just. Nobody. Mention. Jersey. Girl.

gumboot · 5th June 2007, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by qarnos

Firstly, I hope Dylan isn't comparing himself to Kevin Smith. Secondly - didn't the old LCF go into meltdown because Dylan didn't communicate with his mods?

Dylan seems to have missed an important point about actual important famous people. They aren't in regular contact with the mods on their fansite forums. In fact many of them probably never communicate with the moderators on fansite forums dedicated to them. Real famous people don't have time, and nor do they care.

-Gumboot

negativ · 5th June 2007, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by gumboot

Anyone who doesn't think much of Kevin Smith, let me restore it with this clip:

YouTube Video This video is not hosted by the JREF. The JREF can not be held responsible for the suitability or legality of this material. By clicking the link below you agree to view content from an external website.

I AGREE

-Gumboot

That was a great story. Assuming it's true.

The only Kevin Smith movie I've seen was Clerks, and I just couldn't see the OMFG YOU HAVE TO SEE THIS, LOLOCAUST!!!11 appeal at all. That's OK though, because I'm one of those nuts who thinks that every single thing ever done by David Cronenberg, Terry Zwigoff, and John Waters are untouchable perfection.

5th June 2007, 09:43 AM	#1
Undesired Walrus Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: London Posts: 10,882	"And now I can die happy"- Dylan Avery Now I can make another thread.. It's been a day.. I didn't want to distract everyone from smoke signals in 'No ad hom please' http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Ch...howtopic=10382 Dylan sums up what he really wants from making loose change.. not justice, not truth, not the real murderers of 3000 people... ...but an endorsement from Kevin Smith. Oh Dylan, Dylan, Dylan.... I especially like this quote, "I just wanted to make a movie".. disgusting really... Originally Posted by Dylan Avery QUOTE (Mark Dice @ Jun 5 2007, 02:07 AM) Dylan....your life hasn't even begun. once LCFC hits...you'll have full access to practically anything. Just hook me up with a press pass for the oscars, would ya? I want to hassel celebs on the red carpet. ...and hit on a few too. ============== Crazy, man. Absolutely crazy. I just wanted to make a movie.
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5th June 2007, 09:51 AM	#2
chipmunk stew The Spikey Mace of Love and Mercy Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: SE PA Posts: 7,465	Could you quote the OP for those of us who can only reach the site by proxy?
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5th June 2007, 09:54 AM	#3
Undesired Walrus Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: London Posts: 10,882	Originally Posted by chipmunk stew Could you quote the OP for those of us who can only reach the site by proxy? All I can think is, "He directed Dogma... Dogma... one of the worst films I ever saw!" Originally Posted by D'Oh-It's-All-Over-Dylan Seriously, Clerks was one of the first independent films I saw that I truly enjoyed. Korey and I were actually doing our paper route one morning and I came back home, turned on HBO, and caught the ending. I desperately looked for the next airing...and I've been a huge Smith fan since then. The sequel, personally, couldn't have been better done. So imagine my surprise, and delight, when I hear this: http://www.quickstopentertainment.com/?p=4407 http://www.quickstopentertainment.co...Modcast-14.mp3 (Direct Link) Personally, I always sucked at Geometry. And I've never claimed to be the next James Earl Jones. :lol: And I wished Kevin had addressed a better issue than the "jet engine" one, which is up for debate, but hey. Great plug. He'll love the next edition even more. Seriously...I was jumping up and down. I've wanted to hear this for a while now. Btw, tomorrow, I'll be hosting LTW Radio by myself, and I'll probably have Luke on to talk about what's been going on. If Dylan enjoyed the "biblical deluge of awfulness(RossTM)" that was Clerks 2, his next movie...well...
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5th June 2007, 10:08 AM	#4
R.Mackey Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The armpit of L.A. Posts: 7,857	I happen to like Kevin Smith. Doesn't mean I expect him to refute NIST. However, it's also possible that Mr. Smith is merely looking for someone to replace Jason Mewes... I can think of a few candidates.
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5th June 2007, 10:51 AM	#6
Unsecured Coins Hoku-maniac Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: in your macaronis. warming my feets Posts: 5,741	I just read that thread at his forums and it dawned on me just now how diluted they are. What caught me was the "you still have a revolution starting movie to release" comment. Do these people really believe that if/when/once LCFC is released, the people will rise up, the masses will march, and at the end of a long epic struggle, the government will be toppled, but during said revolution "normal" life will go on as "planned"? If there was any reason why I should feel no pity or remorse for them when the bottom drops out of their sad pathetic gathering it would be this. All of them have only one thing going through their one track/stop light mind, and that's to be known as part of the group that "brought America back to the peoples" using their internetz skillz and combat tactics learned in Halo. They full expect a Red Dawn style campaign AND The Oscars to go on at the same time? Give me a BREAK. It's not funny anymore.
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5th June 2007, 10:37 AM	#5
Civilized Worm The Ayatollah of Rock and Rolla Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 1,718	Clerks and Mallrats were OK, and some of his comics when he got around to writing them. Really though he's one of the most overrated people on the planet.

5th June 2007, 11:10 AM	#7
Triterope Muse Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Walking the fine line between stupid and clever Posts: 915	Originally Posted by Unsecured Coins All of them have only one thing going through their one track/stop light mind, and that's to be known as part of the group that "brought America back to the peoples" using their internetz skillz and combat tactics learned in Halo. And they can't even stay focused on that goal. For someone who has a revolution-starting movie to finish in three months, Dylan Avery sure has a lot of free time to bicker with Killtown.

5th June 2007, 11:50 AM	#8
JAStewart Graduate Poster Tagger Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Shetland Islands Posts: 1,523	I love Kevin Smith, his movies are amazing, I've almost met him... at Edinburgh 2006 I got tickets for the UK premier of Clerks II and I got to ask him a question (from the audience). However, should he go onto 9/11 denial I shall have to not watch a single second of his flicks until he retracts his statements.
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5th June 2007, 11:52 AM	#9
Gravy Downsitting Citizen Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the argyle Posts: 17,136	Oh. I thought Avery was making a promise.
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5th June 2007, 11:58 AM	#10
Hourglassmemory Critical Thinker Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 315	I guess I understand Avery when he says "I just wanted to make a movie" the thing is that he chose probably the worst subject he could have ever chosen. People make mistakes, Mr. Avery.

5th June 2007, 12:03 PM	#11
Undesired Walrus Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: London Posts: 10,882	Originally Posted by Gravy Oh. I thought Avery was making a promise. Sharp intake of breath

5th June 2007, 12:13 PM	#12
The Demon's Head Crime cannot be tolerated Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hell. Posts: 1,419	Kevin Smith? Ha ha. I only respect that guy because of Clerks. I really can't respect him for his literary works at Marvel. Some of his work at Marvel was nothing more than disease ridden filth. Creating threads like this one seems to only do one positive thing for Avery, and that is expanding his ego. Might it be better to discuss the conspiracy theory than discussing the theorist?
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5th June 2007, 03:10 PM	#13
Alt+F4 diabolical globalist Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Department of Abandoned Places Posts: 9,778	Kevin Smith's co-host says, in regard to Dylan's narration of LC: "It's not like it's James Earle Jones narrating it. It's like this whiney [rule 8]ing mousey little kid." Smith found that comment quite amusing. BTW, Smith does call LC "riviting", but not because he believes it to be true, but rather the way it slams you with so much information all at once (not enough time to process). Most of the broadcast revolved aliens from outer space. They mock an Internet documentary about aliens landing on earth and Smith calls it the "Loose Change of UFO documentaries." It's beyond me how Dylan Avery could consider any of this an endorcement.
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5th June 2007, 03:15 PM	#14
Arus808 Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 6,202	anyone have a clip on this so we can get hte entire context?
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5th June 2007, 03:21 PM	#15
Unsecured Coins Hoku-maniac Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: in your macaronis. warming my feets Posts: 5,741	i will shortly
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5th June 2007, 03:22 PM	#16
Alt+F4 diabolical globalist Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Department of Abandoned Places Posts: 9,778	Originally Posted by Arus808 anyone have a clip on this so we can get hte entire context? It's at the 4:00 minute mark. http://www.quickstopentertainment.com/podp...SModcast-14.mp3
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5th June 2007, 03:30 PM	#17
Gravy Downsitting Citizen Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the argyle Posts: 17,136	Originally Posted by Hourglassmemory I guess I understand Avery when he says "I just wanted to make a movie" the thing is that he chose probably the worst subject he could have ever chosen. People make mistakes, Mr. Avery. Give him some credit. He set out to make a fictional film and succeeded completely.
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5th June 2007, 03:31 PM	#18
Alt+F4 diabolical globalist Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Department of Abandoned Places Posts: 9,778	Oh, it get's even better... Dylan goes to Kevin Smith's website forum and posts: Originally Posted by Dylan Avery Hey Kevin...I'm the director of Loose Change And I gotta tell you man, I've been a long time fan of your work. If you want to hear the boring story, I posted it here: http://loosechange911.blogspot.com/2...-smell-it.html Anyway, I just wanted to thank you guys for plugging the film, and I eagerly await your review of the Final Cut. The regular posters there rip him a new one, big time: Quote: KEvin does not post here and he hates SPAM....ALMOST as much as we do. Quote: I thought "Loose Change" was one of the most entertaining pieces of fiction I have seen in quite some time. Quote: Loose Change lost me when the nutjobs who created it failed to reveal the real perpetrator of the 9/11 conspiracy. BIGFOOT! How the [rule 8] can you create a documentary about 9/11 and miss the obvious?! Are you stupid? Seriously. Quote: Why don't you go to Kevin's main website, you know the one where he posts at, make your little post about your film and see how fast they line up to skin you alive. Including Kevin... Those are just a few of the posts, the entire beat-down can be read here: http://www.quickstopentertainment.co...ead.php?t=7305
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5th June 2007, 03:36 PM	#19
Arus808 Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 6,202	the comment by marksiwel is a nice one ^_^...and he gives kudos to Mark Roberts for handing Dylan's @## ^_^
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5th June 2007, 03:41 PM	#20
Unsecured Coins Hoku-maniac Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: in your macaronis. warming my feets Posts: 5,741	Oh my Damn. Oh my F'n Damn.
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5th June 2007, 03:46 PM	#21
Undesired Walrus Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: London Posts: 10,882	What Avery bad move.

5th June 2007, 03:49 PM	#23
Civilized Worm The Ayatollah of Rock and Rolla Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 1,718	Wow, I guess even Kevin Smith films aren't buying this ****.

5th June 2007, 03:52 PM	#24
Pardalis Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Montréal Posts: 25,831	I don't think Avery got it, I think Kevin Smith is actually making fun of the movie.

5th June 2007, 03:53 PM	#25
Alareth Expert Expertologist Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 6,671	Well, it seems Kevin Smiths fans are blessed with critical thinking skills
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5th June 2007, 04:26 PM	#28
Unsecured Coins Hoku-maniac Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: in your macaronis. warming my feets Posts: 5,741	Originally Posted by Undesired Walrus What Avery bad move. I just got that.
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5th June 2007, 05:43 PM	#31
Brainster Penultimate Amazing Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 10,409	If anybody wants to see the "Loose Change of UFO Films" it's here I've watched it for about 10 minutes and it is certainly entertaining and has a catchy beat and far better production values. The music is too loud to hear the talking in places. But the description of the film seems accurate; it bombards you with "facts" just like Loose Change did.
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5th June 2007, 05:50 PM	#32
Undesired Walrus Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: London Posts: 10,882	Originally Posted by Brainster If anybody wants to see the "Loose Change of UFO Films" it's here I've watched it for about 10 minutes and it is certainly entertaining and has a catchy beat and far better production values. The music is too loud to hear the talking in places. But the description of the film seems accurate; it bombards you with "facts" just like Loose Change did. See, it's interesting, I think it would be really cruel to do a "Screw UFO Greatest Story Ever Told", but somehow I would never feel that way about a 9/11 truth flick. Why is that?

5th June 2007, 05:53 PM	#33
Foolmewunz Grammar Resistance Leader Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Pattaya, Thailand Posts: 20,511	Originally Posted by Gravy Oh. I thought Avery was making a promise. There is something cynical about us New Yorkers..... I had a dark vision of my own when I saw this thread. Am I evil because I read the thread title and was hoping it was a quote from a suicide note (okay let's make it a failed attempt at suicide so as to maintain my pacifist leanings)?
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5th June 2007, 06:38 PM	#34
Brainster Penultimate Amazing Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 10,409	Originally Posted by Undesired Walrus See, it's interesting, I think it would be really cruel to do a "Screw UFO Greatest Story Ever Told", but somehow I would never feel that way about a 9/11 truth flick. Why is that? Probably because the UFOlogists aren't accusing other people of mass murder?
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5th June 2007, 07:08 PM	#35
qarnos Cold-hearted skeptic Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Melbourne, Austrylia Posts: 1,985	Originally Posted by Dylan @ quickstop Spam? Umm...I'm the director of the film he mentioned on today's show. I'm thanking him and telling him how much I appreciate his work. And I'm sure the mods are in touch with him on a regular basis, as much as I am with the mods of my forum. So I'd appreciate you not being a dick about it. Thanks. Firstly, I hope Dylan isn't comparing himself to Kevin Smith. Secondly - didn't the old LCF go into meltdown because Dylan didn't communicate with his mods?
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5th June 2007, 07:35 PM	#36
Foolmewunz Grammar Resistance Leader Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Pattaya, Thailand Posts: 20,511	Well, the mods at Quickstopentertainment closed the thread. But not before a lovely smackdown, I dare say. Dylan must be reeling. He probably thought he'd get the usual, "Hey, wow, it's DA... You da man!" responses he gets from his greasy fanboys. Here's the best post in the thread, in its entirety. I love this guy!!! I bolded the best parts and will rely on the auto-censor to clean up the naughty bits. Quote: Actually, that was me being nice... but I can be a dick. 1st: The fact that you are the director means you have a personal stake in the out-come of your project, which is why it is SPAM....You ******* retard. You are pawning you film off on this site without so much as stopping by and saying, hey how's it going. 2nd: The mods might be in touch with Kevin on a regular Basis, but guess what they are not going to tell him about your film. Because they hate you. I hate you. Everyone hates you. 3rd: Why don't you go to Kevin's main website, you know the one where he posts at, make your little post about your film and see how fast they line up to skin you alive. Including Kevin... http://wwww.viewaskew.com We get about 30 to 40 of you ****s a year dude, Sorry to tell you but you are nothing but a spammer. Later. ETA: Auto-censor worked.
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5th June 2007, 08:15 PM	#37
negativ Graduate Poster Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: the land of make-believe Posts: 1,905	Originally Posted by Unsecured Coins They full expect a Red Dawn style campaign AND The Oscars to go on at the same time? Give me a BREAK. It's not funny anymore. No, they do not at all expect "Red Dawn". They think a revolution happens when enough people smoke weed and carry agitprop signs around depicting Bush with Hitler mustaches painted on. They expect that the "rest" of Teh PEoplz will look out the window and see all this weed smoking and sign-carrying and say, "huh... I never thought of that before. I bet they're right!" Then they'll all march together down to the whitehouse, chanting their jump-rope rhymes in unison through chrome-plated megaphones of revolutionary destiny. They'll knock on the door and DEMAND JUSTICE, which apparently is sort of like going to Wal-Mart and asking for a refund for a defective product. They all live hiply ever after. I don't know of any examples in history where revolutions played out like that. The only ones I can think of involved rivers of blood in the streets... heads tumbling into baskets... "traitors" shot at dawn / dusk / noon / midnight / that odd bit of time that some people call "brunch" / etc... towns set ablaze... imprisonment and/or summary executions of entire families. It's much more likely to be" Please Don't Torture My Family, Dear Commrade" than "Don't Bogart That Joint, My Friend".
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5th June 2007, 08:16 PM	#38
Mobyseven President of Covert-Ops Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Not the Rat. Posts: 5,672	Whew, for a minute there I thought I was going to have to cry over the loss of the man who directed Clerks and Chasing Amy to the 9/11 truth movement. But, thank Ed, that need not be the case. Just. Nobody. Mention. Jersey. Girl.
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5th June 2007, 08:30 PM	#39
gumboot lorcutus.tolere Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New Zealand Posts: 23,103	Originally Posted by qarnos Firstly, I hope Dylan isn't comparing himself to Kevin Smith. Secondly - didn't the old LCF go into meltdown because Dylan didn't communicate with his mods? Dylan seems to have missed an important point about actual important famous people. They aren't in regular contact with the mods on their fansite forums. In fact many of them probably never communicate with the moderators on fansite forums dedicated to them. Real famous people don't have time, and nor do they care. -Gumboot
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