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garethdjb · 14th June 2007, 05:55 AM

Hello,
Does anyone know where I can find out more about the phenomenon known as 'atmosphere beasts' or 'sky critters'?

kitakaze · 14th June 2007, 06:17 AM

Wikipedia is a good place to start.

Atmospheric Beast.

Khyron · 14th June 2007, 06:51 AM

Wow. I don't know who linked the Heinlein story to that article. I loved the story when I first read it years ago, but it has absolutely jack (rule8) to do with atmosphere beasts. I'm surprised whoever built that page didn't link in unexplained air crashes as being due to collisions with them, though...

*breaks out the editor gloves and shovel*

Piscivore · 14th June 2007, 06:58 AM

Originally Posted by garethdjb

Hello,
Does anyone know where I can find out more about the phenomenon known as 'atmosphere beasts' or 'sky critters'?

I believe that ancient myth and folklore call them "birds".

garethdjb · 14th June 2007, 07:50 AM

I tried wikipedia, all the links are to UFO/cryptozoologist sites, what's the 'normal' explanation. There is supposedly a video of these things somewhere, is it a hoax? I heard some people talking about it, so i don't know where it was.

Oualawouzou · 14th June 2007, 08:01 AM

We can't give a "normal" explanation to something not supported by any shred of evidence. It'd be like asking you for a normal explanation of why that darn pink unicorn keeps wasting me at Super Smash Brothers Melee, while at the same time being unable to provide you with anything supporting the existence of a pink unicorn who's a killing machine when controlling Captain Falcon.

Provide evidence, we will analyze it.

aggle-rithm · 14th June 2007, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by garethdjb

There is supposedly a video of these things somewhere, is it a hoax?

I'm going to go WAAAAAY out on a limb and make a claim that is based on nothing but an educated guess:

Yes, it is a hoax.

Oualawouzou · 14th June 2007, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by aggle-rithm

I'm going to go WAAAAAY out on a limb and make a claim that is based on nothing but an educated guess:

Yes, it is a hoax.

Let's be generous. I vote for perfectly normal phenomenon grossly misinterpreted by people with little to no knowledge about photography and filming (see: 99% of ghosts pictures).

aggle-rithm · 14th June 2007, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by Oualawouzou

Let's be generous. I vote for perfectly normal phenomenon grossly misinterpreted by people with little to no knowledge about photography and filming (see: 99% of ghosts pictures).

Naaah, I'm not feeling generous today. I'm saying it's a film school project by some kid experimenting with CGI, and someone's grabbed it off UTube and sent it around, claiming it's real.

Again, pure speculation...

Should we start a pool?

1. Natural phenomenon
2. Film school project
3. No such video exists
4. Video exists, but its about something irrelevant, like a rock band named "Claude Leopard and the Atmosphere Beasts".

Starthinker · 14th June 2007, 10:13 AM

Maybe you mean rods. Also a fake phenomenon.

Correa Neto · 14th June 2007, 10:57 AM

I don't think so. He's probably talking about Charles Fort's space amoebas or jellyfishes. Crawfordsville monster would be the type specimen. Fort believed these space fairing beasts were an explanation for UFO phenomena.

As always, the "evidence" are sighting reports...

http://www.newanimal.org/a-beasts.htm
http://www.subversiveelement.com/Crawfordsville.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crawfordsville_monster
http://www.fenomeno.matrix.com.br/fe...-mist-craw.htm

Sure, rods may be a species wooblah wooblah wooblah wooblah wooblah

Paul · 14th June 2007, 11:12 AM

The YouTube video, linked from Wikipedia via The Cryptid Zoo, has been taken down because of a copyright claim by this* sane and well balanced gentleman.

Apparently 'Secret Space II' is "Not only full of new UFO footage showing eerie 'sky serpents', but also packed with fascinating information about The Nephilim and The Watchers."

*I take no responsibility for the loss of higher brain function due to visiting this site or any of it's links.

Correa Neto · 14th June 2007, 11:34 AM

Hmmmmmmmmmmm...

Are we seeing some sort of plant here?

Cuddles · 15th June 2007, 03:21 AM

This is just silly. Everyone knows that atmosphere beasts only live on Jupiter (and possbly Saturn). The pressure on Earth just isn't high enough for them.

Zep · 15th June 2007, 03:58 AM

It's a...wait for it...............NEVER ENDING STORY!

garethdjb · 15th June 2007, 06:07 AM

Ah yes, it probably was secret space II. Thanks very much to all.

The Atheist · 15th June 2007, 11:57 PM

Probably one of these:

Spektator · 16th June 2007, 04:56 AM

Way back in the days of early aviation, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle wrote a short story called "The Horror of the Heights" about such airborne critters. They liked to eat people's heads. An etext of the story is online at http://www.forgottenfutures.com/game/ff3/heights.htm.

Wolverine · 16th June 2007, 07:52 AM

Aw, rats. I was so hoping this thread would be about those unknown fire and jelly-like creatures inhabiting the atmosphere.

tube · 16th June 2007, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by Correa Neto

I don't think so. He's probably talking about Charles Fort's space amoebas or jellyfishes. Crawfordsville monster would be the type specimen. Fort believed these space fairing beasts were an explanation for UFO phenomena.

Would that be "nostoc"?

Interestingly, this is discussed in the most recent online newsletter of OED etymologist Michael Quinion:

http://www.worldwidewords.org/nl/vagz.htm

http://www.worldwidewords.org/index.htm

Correa Neto · 17th June 2007, 10:28 AM

I never dug too much in to space amoebas lore, but I think I remember reading somewhere they could be somehow related to "angel hair" and even the manna, for some. So, the answer would be an yes, I guess so.

Take this with a good dosis of salt and your spice of choice, since I have no sources and may have been completely fooled by my brain cells making things up to fill the gaps.

Alareth · 17th June 2007, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by Piscivore

I believe that ancient myth and folklore call them "birds".

Based on my experience as a Lookout during my time in the Navy, they are classified as B1-RD's or GU11's

For more information, please fill out the proper ID-10T form.

JQH · 18th June 2007, 01:15 AM

Originally Posted by Oualawouzou

We can't give a "normal" explanation to something not supported by any shred of evidence. It'd be like asking you for a normal explanation of why that darn pink unicorn keeps wasting me at Super Smash Brothers Melee, while at the same time being unable to provide you with anything supporting the existence of a pink unicorn who's a killing machine when controlling Captain Falcon.

Provide evidence, we will analyze it.

I wondered where the pink unicorn was going when it disappeared from my back garden!

14th June 2007, 05:55 AM	#1
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14th June 2007, 06:17 AM	#2
kitakaze Resident DJ/NSA Supermole Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Behind the decks in Tokyo, Japan/Victoria, Canada Posts: 9,461	Wikipedia is a good place to start. Atmospheric Beast.
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14th June 2007, 06:51 AM	#3
Khyron Scholar Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 97	Wow. I don't know who linked the Heinlein story to that article. I loved the story when I first read it years ago, but it has absolutely jack (rule8) to do with atmosphere beasts. I'm surprised whoever built that page didn't link in unexplained air crashes as being due to collisions with them, though... breaks out the editor gloves and shovel
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14th June 2007, 06:58 AM	#4
Piscivore Smelling fishy Join Date: May 2004 Location: Home is wherever I'm with you Posts: 26,561	Originally Posted by garethdjb Hello, Does anyone know where I can find out more about the phenomenon known as 'atmosphere beasts' or 'sky critters'? I believe that ancient myth and folklore call them "birds".
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14th June 2007, 07:50 AM	#5
garethdjb Muse Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 639	I tried wikipedia, all the links are to UFO/cryptozoologist sites, what's the 'normal' explanation. There is supposedly a video of these things somewhere, is it a hoax? I heard some people talking about it, so i don't know where it was.
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14th June 2007, 08:01 AM	#6
Oualawouzou Critical Thinker Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 492	We can't give a "normal" explanation to something not supported by any shred of evidence. It'd be like asking you for a normal explanation of why that darn pink unicorn keeps wasting me at Super Smash Brothers Melee, while at the same time being unable to provide you with anything supporting the existence of a pink unicorn who's a killing machine when controlling Captain Falcon. Provide evidence, we will analyze it.

14th June 2007, 08:47 AM	#7
aggle-rithm Ardent Formulist Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 14,301	Originally Posted by garethdjb There is supposedly a video of these things somewhere, is it a hoax? I'm going to go WAAAAAY out on a limb and make a claim that is based on nothing but an educated guess: Yes, it is a hoax.
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14th June 2007, 09:20 AM	#8
Oualawouzou Critical Thinker Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 492	Originally Posted by aggle-rithm I'm going to go WAAAAAY out on a limb and make a claim that is based on nothing but an educated guess: Yes, it is a hoax. Let's be generous. I vote for perfectly normal phenomenon grossly misinterpreted by people with little to no knowledge about photography and filming (see: 99% of ghosts pictures).

14th June 2007, 09:32 AM	#9
aggle-rithm Ardent Formulist Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 14,301	Originally Posted by Oualawouzou Let's be generous. I vote for perfectly normal phenomenon grossly misinterpreted by people with little to no knowledge about photography and filming (see: 99% of ghosts pictures). Naaah, I'm not feeling generous today. I'm saying it's a film school project by some kid experimenting with CGI, and someone's grabbed it off UTube and sent it around, claiming it's real. Again, pure speculation... Should we start a pool? 1. Natural phenomenon 2. Film school project 3. No such video exists 4. Video exists, but its about something irrelevant, like a rock band named "Claude Leopard and the Atmosphere Beasts".
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14th June 2007, 10:13 AM	#10
Starthinker Philosopher Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 5,014	Maybe you mean rods. Also a fake phenomenon.
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14th June 2007, 10:57 AM	#11
Correa Neto Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Hunting rocks somewhere in Brazil Posts: 7,235	I don't think so. He's probably talking about Charles Fort's space amoebas or jellyfishes. Crawfordsville monster would be the type specimen. Fort believed these space fairing beasts were an explanation for UFO phenomena. As always, the "evidence" are sighting reports... http://www.newanimal.org/a-beasts.htm http://www.subversiveelement.com/Crawfordsville.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crawfordsville_monster http://www.fenomeno.matrix.com.br/fe...-mist-craw.htm Sure, rods may be a species wooblah wooblah wooblah wooblah wooblah
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14th June 2007, 11:12 AM	#12
Paul Master Poster Join Date: May 2004 Location: UK Posts: 2,977	The YouTube video, linked from Wikipedia via The Cryptid Zoo, has been taken down because of a copyright claim by this* sane and well balanced gentleman. Apparently 'Secret Space II' is "Not only full of new UFO footage showing eerie 'sky serpents', but also packed with fascinating information about The Nephilim and The Watchers." *I take no responsibility for the loss of higher brain function due to visiting this site or any of it's links.
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14th June 2007, 11:34 AM	#13
Correa Neto Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Hunting rocks somewhere in Brazil Posts: 7,235	Hmmmmmmmmmmm... Are we seeing some sort of plant here?
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15th June 2007, 03:21 AM	#14
Cuddles Decoy Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: A magical land full of pink fluffy sheeps and bunnies Posts: 16,676	This is just silly. Everyone knows that atmosphere beasts only live on Jupiter (and possbly Saturn). The pressure on Earth just isn't high enough for them.
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15th June 2007, 03:58 AM	#15
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15th June 2007, 06:07 AM	#16
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15th June 2007, 11:57 PM	#17
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16th June 2007, 04:56 AM	#18
Spektator Dog Who Laughs Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,321	Way back in the days of early aviation, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle wrote a short story called "The Horror of the Heights" about such airborne critters. They liked to eat people's heads. An etext of the story is online at http://www.forgottenfutures.com/game/ff3/heights.htm.
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16th June 2007, 07:52 AM	#19
Wolverine Grumpy Stinky Mustelid Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,690	Aw, rats. I was so hoping this thread would be about those unknown fire and jelly-like creatures inhabiting the atmosphere.

16th June 2007, 02:27 PM	#20
tube Muse Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 898	Originally Posted by Correa Neto I don't think so. He's probably talking about Charles Fort's space amoebas or jellyfishes. Crawfordsville monster would be the type specimen. Fort believed these space fairing beasts were an explanation for UFO phenomena. Would that be "nostoc"? Interestingly, this is discussed in the most recent online newsletter of OED etymologist Michael Quinion: http://www.worldwidewords.org/nl/vagz.htm http://www.worldwidewords.org/index.htm
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17th June 2007, 10:28 AM	#21
Correa Neto Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Hunting rocks somewhere in Brazil Posts: 7,235	I never dug too much in to space amoebas lore, but I think I remember reading somewhere they could be somehow related to "angel hair" and even the manna, for some. So, the answer would be an yes, I guess so. Take this with a good dosis of salt and your spice of choice, since I have no sources and may have been completely fooled by my brain cells making things up to fill the gaps.
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17th June 2007, 11:45 AM	#22
Alareth Expert Expertologist Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 6,807	Originally Posted by Piscivore I believe that ancient myth and folklore call them "birds". Based on my experience as a Lookout during my time in the Navy, they are classified as B1-RD's or GU11's For more information, please fill out the proper ID-10T form.
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18th June 2007, 01:15 AM	#23
JQH Thinker Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 220	Originally Posted by Oualawouzou We can't give a "normal" explanation to something not supported by any shred of evidence. It'd be like asking you for a normal explanation of why that darn pink unicorn keeps wasting me at Super Smash Brothers Melee, while at the same time being unable to provide you with anything supporting the existence of a pink unicorn who's a killing machine when controlling Captain Falcon. Provide evidence, we will analyze it. I wondered where the pink unicorn was going when it disappeared from my back garden!
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