Einstein de-bunked ?

asthmatic camel · 20th August 2003, 03:03 AM

http://www.framleyexaminer.com/pages/framley051.html

Regards,

AC.

Jeff Corey · 20th August 2003, 04:53 AM

By "Thinly Spread"?
From "his laboratory in a shed in his garden"?

Nod, nod, wink, wink.

arcticpenguin · 20th August 2003, 06:45 AM

I like the way faint patterns show up on the page, it was apparently scanned from a newspaper or magazine article.

Quote:

God does not play Twister," he added, cryptically.

BillyTK · 20th August 2003, 06:51 AM

I love the Framley Examiner–it's been one of the finest Local Newspapers since 1978.

And I love the ticklish penguin too.

God is grilling their stomachs in hell, indeed!

whitefork · 20th August 2003, 07:17 AM

A toaster? I wonder if said toaster is more intelligent than Arthur Bostrom.

BNiles · 20th August 2003, 09:36 AM

Obviously we don't know the details of his work yet, but he might be on to something.

Boo Boo Hiss Hiss... Let me explain ...Hiss Boo Bah

Another Physicist in Germany has taken what I see as a similar approach, and measured light in open air (not a vacuum).

He took a signal (classical music of some kind) and converted it to digital. He then transmitted the signal via a laser beam. Next, he split the beam into 2 separate yet equal beams traveling the same distance to 2 receivers. He placed a block (of metal I think) in the path of 1 of the beams. What he found was that not only did the blocked beam still register at its receiver, but also it got there faster than the uninhabited beam.

This is due to the nature of electrons and photons to "disappear" from one location and simultaneously "reappear" in another. Though the block stopped most of the beam, enough of the photons continued on their path to the target, but minus the distance of the block. This resulted in them reaching the target before the uninhabited ones did.

Now one might say, "Yeah...but what kind of signal was left?"
Well...the music was a little scratchy, but very much intact and recognizable as the original piece transmitted.

Now considering the vast quantity of free particles in the atmosphere that light would have to pass "through" (for lack of a better term), it would show that the speed of light should be faster when impeded than when not. Hence, light is slower in a vacuum.

tracer · 20th August 2003, 11:08 AM

But then why does light move more slowly through water or glass than it does through a vacuum, hmmm?

BNiles · 20th August 2003, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tracer
But then why does light move more slowly through water or glass than it does through a vacuum, hmmm?

Because water like glass bends the light.

Diamond · 26th August 2003, 06:05 AM

What I'd like to know is what software they used to produce the Framley Examiner. Any ideas?

20th August 2003, 03:03 AM	#1
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whitefork None of the above Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: aka kullervo Posts: 2,339	A toaster? I wonder if said toaster is more intelligent than Arthur Bostrom.
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20th August 2003, 09:36 AM	#6
BNiles Critical Thinker Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 284	Obviously we don't know the details of his work yet, but he might be on to something. Boo Boo Hiss Hiss... Let me explain ...Hiss Boo Bah Another Physicist in Germany has taken what I see as a similar approach, and measured light in open air (not a vacuum). He took a signal (classical music of some kind) and converted it to digital. He then transmitted the signal via a laser beam. Next, he split the beam into 2 separate yet equal beams traveling the same distance to 2 receivers. He placed a block (of metal I think) in the path of 1 of the beams. What he found was that not only did the blocked beam still register at its receiver, but also it got there faster than the uninhabited beam. This is due to the nature of electrons and photons to "disappear" from one location and simultaneously "reappear" in another. Though the block stopped most of the beam, enough of the photons continued on their path to the target, but minus the distance of the block. This resulted in them reaching the target before the uninhabited ones did. Now one might say, "Yeah...but what kind of signal was left?" Well...the music was a little scratchy, but very much intact and recognizable as the original piece transmitted. Now considering the vast quantity of free particles in the atmosphere that light would have to pass "through" (for lack of a better term), it would show that the speed of light should be faster when impeded than when not. Hence, light is slower in a vacuum.
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20th August 2003, 04:53 AM	#2
Jeff Corey New York Skeptic Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 13,794	By "Thinly Spread"? From "his laboratory in a shed in his garden"? Nod, nod, wink, wink.

20th August 2003, 11:08 AM	#7
tracer Graduate Poster Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Silicon Valley, Calif. Posts: 1,356	But then why does light move more slowly through water or glass than it does through a vacuum, hmmm?
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20th August 2003, 12:22 PM	#8
BNiles Critical Thinker Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 284	Quote: Originally posted by tracer But then why does light move more slowly through water or glass than it does through a vacuum, hmmm? Because water like glass bends the light.
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26th August 2003, 06:05 AM	#9
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