Lottery Analysis and Lottery Prediction

Solitaire · 22nd August 2003, 06:37 PM

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Lotto Sorcerer is a premier lottery number analysis and
lottery prediction software. It uses advanced statistical
analysis and fifth-generation artificial intelligence
(neural network) algorithms to detect winning patterns
and weighted influences in prior lottery draws, using all
possible strategies, and then advises you, based on the
best winning strategy.

Hopefully it just has a window that pops up and says,
"Invest in government bonds, it grows boom time and bust."

Yahweh · 23rd August 2003, 01:54 AM

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Lotto Sorcerer is a premier lottery number analysis and
lottery prediction software. It uses advanced statistical
analysis and fifth-generation artificial intelligence
(neural network) algorithms to detect winning patterns
and weighted influences in prior lottery draws, using all
possible strategies, and then advises you, based on the
best winning strategy.

Wow, quite a bunch of words to describe a random number generator...

Ladewig · 23rd August 2003, 04:16 AM

It's not just science - it's science and sorcery. There's a winning combination.

teddygrahams · 23rd August 2003, 05:06 PM

There is a winning strategy based on passed numbers drawn. It is to predict which numbers will be chosen least in the next drawing. This will maximize the payoff in "match some" lotteries with shared prizes.

Trollbane · 23rd August 2003, 08:09 PM

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Originally posted by teddygrahams
There is a winning strategy based on passed numbers drawn. It is to predict which numbers will be chosen least in the next drawing. This will maximize the payoff in "match some" lotteries with shared prizes.

Nope.. All the numbers have exactly the same chance of being drawn in the next weeks lottery, prior lottery draws have absolutely no influence on them.

Best bet to "win" at a lottery is to pick numbers that havent been selected as much by other players to get a bigger share out of the winnings, but if you try to do it through some system (That is used by other people as well) it will probably fail.

teddygrahams · 24th August 2003, 12:24 PM

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Originally posted by Trollbane

Nope.. All the numbers have exactly the same chance of being drawn in the next weeks lottery, prior lottery draws have absolutely no influence on them.

Best bet to "win" at a lottery is to pick numbers that havent been selected as much by other players to get a bigger share out of the winnings, but if you try to do it through some system (That is used by other people as well) it will probably fail.

Isn't that what I said, Troll ?

Skeptoid · 24th August 2003, 02:19 PM

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Originally posted by teddygrahams

Isn't that what I said, Troll ?

No, ted. You described a system based on past drawings. Trollbane suggested a system based upon the knowledge of the distribution of numbers chosen for the current drawing (assuming that information could be had) that would tend to decrease one's chances of having to split the jackpot if one won the lottery.

davidhorman · 24th August 2003, 03:08 PM

The only statistic available on who chooses what for the UK lottery is the number of jackpot winners each week. Some bright sparks at one of the Universities used this to work out what people are probably picking.

And if you want to know about lottery prediction, just ask Lucianarchy. He has claimed (in the dim and distant past) that he can predict lottery numbers, but that any kind of test of this would break his magik powers

But I wouldn't bother asking him - he's repeatedly ignored any recent questions about it.

David

teddygrahams · 24th August 2003, 06:09 PM

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Originally posted by Skeptoid

No, ted. You described a system based on past drawings. Trollbane suggested a system based upon the knowledge of the distribution of numbers chosen for the current drawing (assuming that information could be had) that would tend to decrease one's chances of having to split the jackpot if one won the lottery.

If you do not pick numbers based on PAST DRAWINGS , How are you going to minimize the probability of sharing a prize ????? Asking the lottery what numbers have been picked for the next drawing is not an option.

BobK · 24th August 2003, 10:08 PM

If you want to reduce your chances of splitting the jackpot if you win, I would suggest selecting numbers larger than 31 since many people use birthdays to make their selections.

teddygrahams · 27th August 2003, 04:35 PM

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Originally posted by BobK
If you want to reduce your chances of splitting the jackpot if you win, I would suggest selecting numbers larger than 31 since many people use birthdays to make their selections.

So, according to BobK, in my own words, repeated:
There is a winning strategy based on passed numbers drawn. It is to predict which numbers will be chosen least in the next drawing. This will maximize the payoff in "match some" lotteries with shared prizes...

Except I think some of you (Trollbane) are confused by my use of the word "chosen".. I mean chosen by the players in the next drawing, not chosen by the drawing machine.

I would also add to the word "drawn" the data regarding payoffs for those numbers.

I am assuming BobK's information could be obtained by analyzing winning numbers and is not based on asking everyone what numbers they play.

BobK · 27th August 2003, 07:20 PM

I would like to clarify my suggestion.

Selecting numbers greater than 31 does not improve your chances of being a winner, but it does have the potential to increase the amount of money won for any prize that is split among players with the same number combination. Less duplicate winners due to lower numbers getting more play.

In my case, I only play the lottery when the jackpot hasn't been won for several drawings and then, given the poor odds on winning, its not worth my time to select my own numbers, I just buy two quick picks.

teddygrahams · 29th August 2003, 05:18 PM

ANd to continue clarifying, by "winning", I mean increase payoff to entry ratio, not increase probabability of claiming a jackpot.

22nd August 2003, 06:37 PM	#1
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23rd August 2003, 01:54 AM	#2
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23rd August 2003, 04:16 AM	#3
Ladewig Hipster alien Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: not measurable Posts: 16,820	It's not just science - it's science and sorcery. There's a winning combination.
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23rd August 2003, 08:09 PM	#5
Trollbane Scholar Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 107	Quote: Originally posted by teddygrahams There is a winning strategy based on passed numbers drawn. It is to predict which numbers will be chosen least in the next drawing. This will maximize the payoff in "match some" lotteries with shared prizes. Nope.. All the numbers have exactly the same chance of being drawn in the next weeks lottery, prior lottery draws have absolutely no influence on them. Best bet to "win" at a lottery is to pick numbers that havent been selected as much by other players to get a bigger share out of the winnings, but if you try to do it through some system (That is used by other people as well) it will probably fail.
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24th August 2003, 03:08 PM	#8
davidhorman Muse Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 984	The only statistic available on who chooses what for the UK lottery is the number of jackpot winners each week. Some bright sparks at one of the Universities used this to work out what people are probably picking. And if you want to know about lottery prediction, just ask Lucianarchy. He has claimed (in the dim and distant past) that he can predict lottery numbers, but that any kind of test of this would break his magik powers But I wouldn't bother asking him - he's repeatedly ignored any recent questions about it. David
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23rd August 2003, 05:06 PM	#4
teddygrahams Critical Thinker Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 275	There is a winning strategy based on passed numbers drawn. It is to predict which numbers will be chosen least in the next drawing. This will maximize the payoff in "match some" lotteries with shared prizes.

24th August 2003, 12:24 PM	#6
teddygrahams Critical Thinker Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 275	Quote: Originally posted by Trollbane Nope.. All the numbers have exactly the same chance of being drawn in the next weeks lottery, prior lottery draws have absolutely no influence on them. Best bet to "win" at a lottery is to pick numbers that havent been selected as much by other players to get a bigger share out of the winnings, but if you try to do it through some system (That is used by other people as well) it will probably fail. Isn't that what I said, Troll ?

24th August 2003, 02:19 PM	#7
Skeptoid Graduate Poster Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,532	Quote: Originally posted by teddygrahams Isn't that what I said, Troll ? No, ted. You described a system based on past drawings. Trollbane suggested a system based upon the knowledge of the distribution of numbers chosen for the current drawing (assuming that information could be had) that would tend to decrease one's chances of having to split the jackpot if one won the lottery.

24th August 2003, 06:09 PM	#9
teddygrahams Critical Thinker Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 275	Quote: Originally posted by Skeptoid No, ted. You described a system based on past drawings. Trollbane suggested a system based upon the knowledge of the distribution of numbers chosen for the current drawing (assuming that information could be had) that would tend to decrease one's chances of having to split the jackpot if one won the lottery. If you do not pick numbers based on PAST DRAWINGS , How are you going to minimize the probability of sharing a prize ????? Asking the lottery what numbers have been picked for the next drawing is not an option.

24th August 2003, 10:08 PM	#10
BobK Muse Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: State of confusion Posts: 913	If you want to reduce your chances of splitting the jackpot if you win, I would suggest selecting numbers larger than 31 since many people use birthdays to make their selections.
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27th August 2003, 04:35 PM	#11
teddygrahams Critical Thinker Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 275	Quote: Originally posted by BobK If you want to reduce your chances of splitting the jackpot if you win, I would suggest selecting numbers larger than 31 since many people use birthdays to make their selections. So, according to BobK, in my own words, repeated: There is a winning strategy based on passed numbers drawn. It is to predict which numbers will be chosen least in the next drawing. This will maximize the payoff in "match some" lotteries with shared prizes... Except I think some of you (Trollbane) are confused by my use of the word "chosen".. I mean chosen by the players in the next drawing, not chosen by the drawing machine. I would also add to the word "drawn" the data regarding payoffs for those numbers. I am assuming BobK's information could be obtained by analyzing winning numbers and is not based on asking everyone what numbers they play.

27th August 2003, 07:20 PM	#12
BobK Muse Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: State of confusion Posts: 913	I would like to clarify my suggestion. Selecting numbers greater than 31 does not improve your chances of being a winner, but it does have the potential to increase the amount of money won for any prize that is split among players with the same number combination. Less duplicate winners due to lower numbers getting more play. In my case, I only play the lottery when the jackpot hasn't been won for several drawings and then, given the poor odds on winning, its not worth my time to select my own numbers, I just buy two quick picks.
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29th August 2003, 05:18 PM	#13
teddygrahams Critical Thinker Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 275	ANd to continue clarifying, by "winning", I mean increase payoff to entry ratio, not increase probabability of claiming a jackpot.