Has anyone ever gotten off drugs through the power of atheism?

DOC · 19th July 2007, 09:27 AM

I was just thinking -- I've heard countless people say they have gotten off drugs through Christianity but have never heard anyone say atheism has gotten them off drugs?

Belz... · 19th July 2007, 09:30 AM

Yeah, will call it willpower. Or loved ones. Or therapists. Or whatnot.

Those aren't gods or faith-related things...

Mercutio · 19th July 2007, 09:35 AM

The power of atheism?

I worked at a mental hospital that was known nationwide for its drug recovery program. It did not have a religious component to it. Was it an atheist program? No, just a very good drug recovery program, that did not make people say they believed in anything in particular to participate.

Marquis de Carabas · 19th July 2007, 09:37 AM

What's the power of atheism, exactly? I'm hoping it's a death ray.

ClintonHammond · 19th July 2007, 09:38 AM

"I've heard countless people say they have gotten off drugs through Christianity"

All they did was trade one addiction for another....

Mercutio · 19th July 2007, 09:39 AM

The closest I can think of an example of "the power of atheism" would be Aron Ralston, who credits his atheism with forcing him to deal with his situation instead of sitting back and letting god save him.

Quote:

I never thought of some God or some omniscient being that'd lean down and give me help, and I feel, actually, if I had believed that, I just would've stopped and waited for it, and I would've died.

IMST · 19th July 2007, 09:42 AM

Maybe I should commit fully to atheism so I can get my powers. I have faith they will come if I just don't believe hard enough.

Phil · 19th July 2007, 09:44 AM

Atheists aren't quitters.

pgwenthold · 19th July 2007, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by DOC

I was just thinking -- I've heard countless people say they have gotten off drugs through Christianity but have never heard anyone say atheism has gotten them off drugs?

Anyone who has gotten off drugs without using religion (or, more specifically, by relying on "god") has done it atheistically.

Miss Anthrope · 19th July 2007, 09:58 AM

Ahhh, it's Doc. *sigh*

Do we all need to tell you again that Atheism is a lack of belief? It doesn't work like that.

Just like those who say "Stalin was an atheist", the point is, no one has started a war or mass murdered in the name of their "atheism".

Thus, no one is going to say "Atheism" got them off drugs. While it makes sense that a religious person would credit god, it's very odd you would expect someone to say "I conquered my drug habit because I don't believe in god!!"

Many rehab hospitals do not invoke a higher power. They use medical science and behavioral science to help people become sober. I've never been a drug addict, but I did give up a decade long smoking habit cold turkey by the power of my own will. I would never credit "atheism" for losing the addiction. I credit my own strength.

Religion does become an addiction of it's own. The good way to break a bad habit is to replace it with another one. A person who believes they have been healed will become fanatical about their religion. They will also change their environment, another key to this. If they are surrounded by church folk rather than their drug buddies, there are fewer opportunities for failure. It's not god, it's the shift in thinking and behavior. This certainly can happen in a non-religious environment.

Dark Jaguar · 19th July 2007, 10:01 AM

Atheism has no power, or virtues either. It's just a lack of belief in god. I would wince at someone saying only the strength of their lack of belief allowed them to perservere. That's silly.

And it's also silly to say that a faith in god has anything to do with someone quitting, as plenty of people have not been able to go sober that are also religious. Whether an atheist or religious, it's other things that lead them to stop.

On that note, Phil, some atheists are quitters. Some of them never give up. Atheism doesn't really give someone any sort of strength, though it might take strength to become an atheist.

calebprime · 19th July 2007, 10:07 AM

I quit smoking weed. I'm an atheist. It was mostly through the power of penury, wife-naggery, this-forum-ism, wanting-to-get-more-done-ism.

And yes, my atheism is life-affirming. It's a kind of freedom. It's related to the idea that I'm in charge of my own little show, and can do what I want, and make changes for the better.

So, yes. Anyone has.

anyone lived in a pretty how town
(with up so floating many bells down)
spring summer autumn winter
he sang his didn't he danced his did

Women and men(both little and small)
cared for anyone not at all
they sowed their isn't they reaped their same
sun moon stars rain

children guessed(but only a few
and down they forgot as up they grew
autumn winter spring summer)
that noone loved him more by more

when by now and tree by leaf
she laughed his joy she cried his grief
bird by snow and stir by still
anyone's any was all to her...

JoeEllison · 19th July 2007, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by Marquis de Carabas

What's the power of atheism, exactly? I'm hoping it's a death ray.

...FROM MY EYES!!

MWare · 19th July 2007, 10:30 AM

Does one's religion impact their drug use (or their getting started using drugs)?

Quote:

Background: some studies suggest that religious variables are associated with substance use and abuse however, they tend to be compartmentalized into alcohol, tobacco, or illicit drugs. Few have examined both licit and illicit drugs. The purpose of this study was to investigate the patterns of licit and illicit recreational drug use among postsecondary students in terms of religious background and religiosity. Method: the Queensland Alcohol and Drug Study Questionnaire was completed by students attending courses in "helping profession" departments such as medicine, nursing, education, and psychology from 22 departments at universities and colleges in five Scottish cities. The sample consisted of 3117 females and 949 males.
Results: among female students a higher percent (p <.05) who were Not Religious consumed over 14 drinks per week (55.5 vs 36.2%), tobacco (43.3 vs 29.3%), marijuana (32.4 vs 15. 1 %), amphetamines (8.4 vs 4. 1 %), LSD (7.4 vs 2.9%), and Ecstasy (4.8 vs 2. 1 %) compared to those who were Very Religious. A higher percent of Roman Catholic's consumed alcoholic beverages while a higher percent of Protestants, other than Church of Scotland, consumed tobacco. For all other substances those with "other" or no religious background had a higher proportion of users. There was a positive association between illicit drug use and both high alcohol consumption and tobacco use. In particular a strong association was found between tobacco and marijuana (r=.45). Among males a higher proportion of students (p <.05) who were Not Religious consumed over 21 drinks per week (61.3 vs 32.4%), tobacco, (47.8 vs 35.2%), marijuana (50.2 vs 28.3%), amphetamines (15.9 vs 8.0%), LSD (17.6 vs 8.4%), and Ecstasy (9.2 vs 5.2%) compared to students who were Very Religious. A higher percentage of male students with "other" or no religious backgrounds used tobacco and a higher proportion of Roman Catholics used marijuana, amphetamines and Ecstasy. Illicit drug consumption was positively correlated with heavy alcohol and tobacco use. Tobacco was strongly correlated with marijuana (r=.48) and LSD (r=.42) use. It was concluded that among this sample of Scottish post-secondary students, having a strong religious commitment was associated with less substance use and that heavy drinking and using tobacco was correlated with illicit drug use. Implications of this study suggest further research to determine why lack of religious commitment, being Roman Catholic or having no religious preference are a risk factors for use of a variety of licit and illicit recreational substances.

http://www.indiana.edu/~engs/articles/religion2.htm

As someone who grew up in an Irish Catholic household, I can certainly say that the religion (at least as far as it figures into the culture) can lead to alcoholism. Would the odds of becoming an alcoholic be less or greater for someone raised in an atheistic household? It's so difficult to strip out all of the other factors (culture, genetics, etc) I'm not sure you'd get a very meaningful answer to this. Am I too far off topic with this?

Marquis de Carabas · 19th July 2007, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by JoeEllison

...FROM MY EYES!!

Well, I was hoping my eyes, actually, but that'd be pretty cool, too. I guess.

JoeEllison · 19th July 2007, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by Marquis de Carabas

Well, I was hoping my eyes, actually, but that'd be pretty cool, too. I guess.

All of our eyes?

Marquis de Carabas · 19th July 2007, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by JoeEllison

All of our eyes?

I was hoping we'd get different powers. What kind of superhero group has all the same stuff?

We are forming a superhero group, right?

Miss Anthrope · 19th July 2007, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by Marquis de Carabas

I was hoping we'd get different powers. What kind of superhero group has all the same stuff?

We are forming a superhero group, right?

My super power: flexing my pecs, so that my generous bustline rises and falls, thus sending a powerful, destructive shockwave to knock over my opponents.

Can I? Please? Can I?

Foster Zygote · 19th July 2007, 11:06 AM

I credit my non-alcoholism to my lack of belief in Bacchus.

Marquis de Carabas · 19th July 2007, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by Miss Anthrope

My super power: flexing my pecs, so that my generous bustline rises and falls, thus sending a powerful, destructive shockwave to knock over my opponents.

Can I? Please? Can I?

How focused a shockwave are we talking? We want to limit collateral damage. Except with my death rays.

Oualawouzou · 19th July 2007, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by Miss Anthrope

My super power: flexing my pecs, so that my generous bustline rises and falls, thus sending a powerful, destructive shockwave to knock over my opponents.

Can I? Please? Can I?

Boobie Powers. Approved.

Rasmus · 19th July 2007, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by DOC

I was just thinking -- I've heard countless people say they have gotten off drugs through Christianity but have never heard anyone say atheism has gotten them off drugs?

Not only is it silly to assume there could be some "power of atheism" to get you clean, allow you to walk on water, etc - it also pisses me off that there seems to be a widely held assumption that you would somehow need all the stupid things religion promises, does or offers.

Foster Zygote · 19th July 2007, 11:25 AM

Ooh! If I do take to heavy drinking can I be The Drunken Atheist? My superpower can be turning water into wine and then walking on it.

Lisa Simpson · 19th July 2007, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by Oualawouzou

Boobie Powers. Approved.

Can I have laser boobie powers?

ponderingturtle · 19th July 2007, 11:33 AM

Well not believing in god has never helped me over an addiction but not careing about baseball did help me get over an addiction to crack.

Katana · 19th July 2007, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by ponderingturtle

Well not believing in god has never helped me over an addiction but not careing about baseball did help me get over an addiction to crack.

Caring about baseball has definitely increased my alcohol intake.

ponderingturtle · 19th July 2007, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by Katana

Caring about baseball has definitely increased my alcohol intake.

Does it correlate to how your team is doing?

JoeEllison · 19th July 2007, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by Marquis de Carabas

I was hoping we'd get different powers. What kind of superhero group has all the same stuff?

We are forming a superhero group, right?

Ok, you get the death ray out of your eyes, I get the "not a death ray, but it hurts so bad you wish were dead" beams from my hands.

Katana · 19th July 2007, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by ponderingturtle

Does it correlate to how your team is doing?

I think it more closely correlates with the fact that my team is the Red Sox.

Marquis de Carabas · 19th July 2007, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by JoeEllison

Ok, you get the death ray out of your eyes, I get the "not a death ray, but it hurts so bad you wish were dead" beams from my hands.

I'm sewing my cape tonight.

kinkymagic · 19th July 2007, 11:48 AM

I've not smoked for 19 days and plan not to start smoking again until October thanks to the power of spite.

brodski · 19th July 2007, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by Marquis de Carabas

I was hoping we'd get different powers. What kind of superhero group has all the same stuff?

We are forming a superhero group, right?

Hero?

Oualawouzou · 19th July 2007, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by Lisa Simpson

Can I have laser boobie powers?

I insist on it.

Ryan O'Dine · 19th July 2007, 11:57 AM

Okay, which one of you jokers used your death beams, exploding boobies, etc. on DOC? He seems to have been blasted out of this thread.

Can’t you people control your powers, for crying out loud?

(BTW, I want the Crying-Out-Loud power. Tears shoot out of my eyes so noisily that... I don’t know, something spectacular happens. People slip on the wet floor, and their eardrums pop. I don't care, just let me wear spandex.)

Lisa Simpson · 19th July 2007, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by brodski

Hero?

Yeah, I can't be a hero.

I'm an admin.

Terry · 19th July 2007, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by Ryan O'Dine

I don't care, just let me wear spandex.

Spandex-wearing power APPROVED! I can link you to some cool sites if you like...

Marquis de Carabas · 19th July 2007, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by brodski

Hero?

In name only, of course.

Miss Anthrope · 19th July 2007, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by Marquis de Carabas

How focused a shockwave are we talking? We want to limit collateral damage. Except with my death rays.

I will be able to focus and hone in on my target through the use of a cone shaped bra.

Miss Anthrope · 19th July 2007, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by Oualawouzou

Boobie Powers. Approved.

YESSSSSS!

The Cupped Avenger shall rid the world of evildoers!

(My superhero's mild mannered cover personality shall be named Dee Dee)

Ryan O'Dine · 19th July 2007, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by Terry

Spandex-wearing power APPROVED! I can link you to some cool sites if you like...

Only if I can wear them and they feel spandexy.

19th July 2007, 09:27 AM	#1
DOC Philosopher Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: USA Posts: 7,741	Has anyone ever gotten off drugs through the power of atheism? I was just thinking -- I've heard countless people say they have gotten off drugs through Christianity but have never heard anyone say atheism has gotten them off drugs?

19th July 2007, 09:30 AM	#2
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19th July 2007, 09:35 AM	#3
Mercutio Shakespeare's Sock Puppet Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Live Free Or Die Posts: 16,325	The power of atheism? I worked at a mental hospital that was known nationwide for its drug recovery program. It did not have a religious component to it. Was it an atheist program? No, just a very good drug recovery program, that did not make people say they believed in anything in particular to participate.
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19th July 2007, 09:37 AM	#4
Marquis de Carabas Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: vuori Posts: 27,106	What's the power of atheism, exactly? I'm hoping it's a death ray.
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19th July 2007, 09:39 AM	#6
Mercutio Shakespeare's Sock Puppet Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Live Free Or Die Posts: 16,325	The closest I can think of an example of "the power of atheism" would be Aron Ralston, who credits his atheism with forcing him to deal with his situation instead of sitting back and letting god save him. Quote: I never thought of some God or some omniscient being that'd lean down and give me help, and I feel, actually, if I had believed that, I just would've stopped and waited for it, and I would've died.
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19th July 2007, 09:38 AM	#5
ClintonHammond Guest Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Windsor Ontario Canada Posts: 871	"I've heard countless people say they have gotten off drugs through Christianity" All they did was trade one addiction for another....

19th July 2007, 09:42 AM	#7
IMST If Charlie Parker Was a Gunslinger, There'd Be a Whole Lot of Dead Copycats Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Seattle Posts: 6,128	Maybe I should commit fully to atheism so I can get my powers. I have faith they will come if I just don't believe hard enough.

19th July 2007, 09:44 AM	#8
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19th July 2007, 09:52 AM	#9
pgwenthold Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 12,066	Originally Posted by DOC I was just thinking -- I've heard countless people say they have gotten off drugs through Christianity but have never heard anyone say atheism has gotten them off drugs? Anyone who has gotten off drugs without using religion (or, more specifically, by relying on "god") has done it atheistically.
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19th July 2007, 09:58 AM	#10
Miss Anthrope All your post are belong to us Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: A Tiny Oasis in the PNW Posts: 3,597	Ahhh, it's Doc. sigh Do we all need to tell you again that Atheism is a lack of belief? It doesn't work like that. Just like those who say "Stalin was an atheist", the point is, no one has started a war or mass murdered in the name of their "atheism". Thus, no one is going to say "Atheism" got them off drugs. While it makes sense that a religious person would credit god, it's very odd you would expect someone to say "I conquered my drug habit because I don't believe in god!!" Many rehab hospitals do not invoke a higher power. They use medical science and behavioral science to help people become sober. I've never been a drug addict, but I did give up a decade long smoking habit cold turkey by the power of my own will. I would never credit "atheism" for losing the addiction. I credit my own strength. Religion does become an addiction of it's own. The good way to break a bad habit is to replace it with another one. A person who believes they have been healed will become fanatical about their religion. They will also change their environment, another key to this. If they are surrounded by church folk rather than their drug buddies, there are fewer opportunities for failure. It's not god, it's the shift in thinking and behavior. This certainly can happen in a non-religious environment.
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19th July 2007, 10:01 AM	#11
Dark Jaguar Graduate Poster Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,666	Atheism has no power, or virtues either. It's just a lack of belief in god. I would wince at someone saying only the strength of their lack of belief allowed them to perservere. That's silly. And it's also silly to say that a faith in god has anything to do with someone quitting, as plenty of people have not been able to go sober that are also religious. Whether an atheist or religious, it's other things that lead them to stop. On that note, Phil, some atheists are quitters. Some of them never give up. Atheism doesn't really give someone any sort of strength, though it might take strength to become an atheist.

19th July 2007, 10:07 AM	#12
calebprime Somewhat Elitist Parasite Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 7,747	I quit smoking weed. I'm an atheist. It was mostly through the power of penury, wife-naggery, this-forum-ism, wanting-to-get-more-done-ism. And yes, my atheism is life-affirming. It's a kind of freedom. It's related to the idea that I'm in charge of my own little show, and can do what I want, and make changes for the better. So, yes. Anyone has. anyone lived in a pretty how town (with up so floating many bells down) spring summer autumn winter he sang his didn't he danced his did Women and men(both little and small) cared for anyone not at all they sowed their isn't they reaped their same sun moon stars rain children guessed(but only a few and down they forgot as up they grew autumn winter spring summer) that noone loved him more by more when by now and tree by leaf she laughed his joy she cried his grief bird by snow and stir by still anyone's any was all to her...
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19th July 2007, 10:11 AM	#13
JoeEllison Cuddly Like a Koala Bear Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 7,276	Originally Posted by Marquis de Carabas What's the power of atheism, exactly? I'm hoping it's a death ray. ...FROM MY EYES!!

19th July 2007, 10:30 AM	#14
MWare Muse Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 666	Does one's religion impact their drug use (or their getting started using drugs)? Quote: Background: some studies suggest that religious variables are associated with substance use and abuse however, they tend to be compartmentalized into alcohol, tobacco, or illicit drugs. Few have examined both licit and illicit drugs. The purpose of this study was to investigate the patterns of licit and illicit recreational drug use among postsecondary students in terms of religious background and religiosity. Method: the Queensland Alcohol and Drug Study Questionnaire was completed by students attending courses in "helping profession" departments such as medicine, nursing, education, and psychology from 22 departments at universities and colleges in five Scottish cities. The sample consisted of 3117 females and 949 males. Results: among female students a higher percent (p <.05) who were Not Religious consumed over 14 drinks per week (55.5 vs 36.2%), tobacco (43.3 vs 29.3%), marijuana (32.4 vs 15. 1 %), amphetamines (8.4 vs 4. 1 %), LSD (7.4 vs 2.9%), and Ecstasy (4.8 vs 2. 1 %) compared to those who were Very Religious. A higher percent of Roman Catholic's consumed alcoholic beverages while a higher percent of Protestants, other than Church of Scotland, consumed tobacco. For all other substances those with "other" or no religious background had a higher proportion of users. There was a positive association between illicit drug use and both high alcohol consumption and tobacco use. In particular a strong association was found between tobacco and marijuana (r=.45). Among males a higher proportion of students (p <.05) who were Not Religious consumed over 21 drinks per week (61.3 vs 32.4%), tobacco, (47.8 vs 35.2%), marijuana (50.2 vs 28.3%), amphetamines (15.9 vs 8.0%), LSD (17.6 vs 8.4%), and Ecstasy (9.2 vs 5.2%) compared to students who were Very Religious. A higher percentage of male students with "other" or no religious backgrounds used tobacco and a higher proportion of Roman Catholics used marijuana, amphetamines and Ecstasy. Illicit drug consumption was positively correlated with heavy alcohol and tobacco use. Tobacco was strongly correlated with marijuana (r=.48) and LSD (r=.42) use. It was concluded that among this sample of Scottish post-secondary students, having a strong religious commitment was associated with less substance use and that heavy drinking and using tobacco was correlated with illicit drug use. Implications of this study suggest further research to determine why lack of religious commitment, being Roman Catholic or having no religious preference are a risk factors for use of a variety of licit and illicit recreational substances. http://www.indiana.edu/~engs/articles/religion2.htm As someone who grew up in an Irish Catholic household, I can certainly say that the religion (at least as far as it figures into the culture) can lead to alcoholism. Would the odds of becoming an alcoholic be less or greater for someone raised in an atheistic household? It's so difficult to strip out all of the other factors (culture, genetics, etc) I'm not sure you'd get a very meaningful answer to this. Am I too far off topic with this?
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19th July 2007, 10:50 AM	#15
Marquis de Carabas Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: vuori Posts: 27,106	Originally Posted by JoeEllison ...FROM MY EYES!! Well, I was hoping my eyes, actually, but that'd be pretty cool, too. I guess.
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19th July 2007, 10:51 AM	#16
JoeEllison Cuddly Like a Koala Bear Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 7,276	Originally Posted by Marquis de Carabas Well, I was hoping my eyes, actually, but that'd be pretty cool, too. I guess. All of our eyes?

19th July 2007, 10:55 AM	#17
Marquis de Carabas Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: vuori Posts: 27,106	Originally Posted by JoeEllison All of our eyes? I was hoping we'd get different powers. What kind of superhero group has all the same stuff? We are forming a superhero group, right?
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19th July 2007, 11:01 AM	#18
Miss Anthrope All your post are belong to us Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: A Tiny Oasis in the PNW Posts: 3,597	Originally Posted by Marquis de Carabas I was hoping we'd get different powers. What kind of superhero group has all the same stuff? We are forming a superhero group, right? My super power: flexing my pecs, so that my generous bustline rises and falls, thus sending a powerful, destructive shockwave to knock over my opponents. Can I? Please? Can I?
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19th July 2007, 11:06 AM	#19
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19th July 2007, 11:08 AM	#20
Marquis de Carabas Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: vuori Posts: 27,106	Originally Posted by Miss Anthrope My super power: flexing my pecs, so that my generous bustline rises and falls, thus sending a powerful, destructive shockwave to knock over my opponents. Can I? Please? Can I? How focused a shockwave are we talking? We want to limit collateral damage. Except with my death rays.
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19th July 2007, 11:11 AM	#21
Oualawouzou Critical Thinker Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 492	Originally Posted by Miss Anthrope My super power: flexing my pecs, so that my generous bustline rises and falls, thus sending a powerful, destructive shockwave to knock over my opponents. Can I? Please? Can I? Boobie Powers. Approved.

19th July 2007, 11:14 AM	#22
Rasmus Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 6,138	Originally Posted by DOC I was just thinking -- I've heard countless people say they have gotten off drugs through Christianity but have never heard anyone say atheism has gotten them off drugs? Not only is it silly to assume there could be some "power of atheism" to get you clean, allow you to walk on water, etc - it also pisses me off that there seems to be a widely held assumption that you would somehow need all the stupid things religion promises, does or offers.
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19th July 2007, 11:25 AM	#23
Foster Zygote Dental Floss Tycoon Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge Posts: 14,382	Ooh! If I do take to heavy drinking can I be The Drunken Atheist? My superpower can be turning water into wine and then walking on it.
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19th July 2007, 11:31 AM	#24
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19th July 2007, 11:33 AM	#25
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19th July 2007, 11:36 AM	#26
Katana Illuminator Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 4,894	Originally Posted by ponderingturtle Well not believing in god has never helped me over an addiction but not careing about baseball did help me get over an addiction to crack. Caring about baseball has definitely increased my alcohol intake.
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19th July 2007, 11:38 AM	#27
ponderingturtle Orthogonal Vector Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Tarrytown, NY Posts: 26,417	Originally Posted by Katana Caring about baseball has definitely increased my alcohol intake. Does it correlate to how your team is doing?
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19th July 2007, 11:40 AM	#28
JoeEllison Cuddly Like a Koala Bear Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 7,276	Originally Posted by Marquis de Carabas I was hoping we'd get different powers. What kind of superhero group has all the same stuff? We are forming a superhero group, right? Ok, you get the death ray out of your eyes, I get the "not a death ray, but it hurts so bad you wish were dead" beams from my hands.

19th July 2007, 11:42 AM	#29
Katana Illuminator Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 4,894	Originally Posted by ponderingturtle Does it correlate to how your team is doing? I think it more closely correlates with the fact that my team is the Red Sox.
Katana Illuminator Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 4,894	__________________ "I think Katana is as big of a perv as the rest of us." - Dragonrock "The rationality was there, and clear and concise. The condescention was hinted at and was like french onion dip on the perfect potato chip. Tasted like woo smackdown." - Fowlsound (aka Ducky, darnit) "Katana is one quick shut-yo-mouth!" - JonnyFive StopSylviaBrowne

19th July 2007, 11:43 AM	#30
Marquis de Carabas Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: vuori Posts: 27,106	Originally Posted by JoeEllison Ok, you get the death ray out of your eyes, I get the "not a death ray, but it hurts so bad you wish were dead" beams from my hands. I'm sewing my cape tonight.
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19th July 2007, 11:48 AM	#31
kinkymagic Student Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 42	I've not smoked for 19 days and plan not to start smoking again until October thanks to the power of spite.
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19th July 2007, 11:49 AM	#32
brodski Tea-Time toad Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 15,066	Originally Posted by Marquis de Carabas I was hoping we'd get different powers. What kind of superhero group has all the same stuff? We are forming a superhero group, right? Hero?
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19th July 2007, 11:49 AM	#33
Oualawouzou Critical Thinker Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 492	Originally Posted by Lisa Simpson Can I have laser boobie powers? I insist on it.

19th July 2007, 11:57 AM	#34
Ryan O'Dine OD’ing on Damitol Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Walk in an ever expanding Archimedean spiral and you’ll find me eventually Posts: 1,184	Okay, which one of you jokers used your death beams, exploding boobies, etc. on DOC? He seems to have been blasted out of this thread. Can’t you people control your powers, for crying out loud? (BTW, I want the Crying-Out-Loud power. Tears shoot out of my eyes so noisily that... I don’t know, something spectacular happens. People slip on the wet floor, and their eardrums pop. I don't care, just let me wear spandex.)
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19th July 2007, 11:59 AM	#35
Lisa Simpson THE Lisa Simpson Administrator Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: 123 Fake Street Posts: 20,039	Originally Posted by brodski Hero? Yeah, I can't be a hero. I'm an admin.
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