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Old 7th August 2007, 07:45 AM   #121
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The misunderstanding we have here comes from your apparent inexperience with silly people forums. I usually post on gaming forums and it's either kids or immature adults who love to say, "Dude, just slit your wrists!!! It could work out for the best!!!"

So . . . even when I said that people like you say that it wasn't as serioius as you think I was being. K?

Just relax.
I feel so awful for you. I really, really do.
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Old 7th August 2007, 08:06 AM   #122
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Uhhh... no. Just because someone doesn't give to Greenpeace does not mean they have a problem with environmentalists in general, or are not in favour of protecting the environment. Its quite possible that someone just doesn't like the tactics of the organization, or doesn't trust that the money will be well spent.
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Just because this Rady individual didn't donate to your favorite charity does not mean that he does not feel that stopping the exploitation of kids is not a worthy goal. Likely he may not suffer from the same delusion that you do that 'all' the police are bribed.
I'd say it's highly probable that the man in question is phony . . . which is what this thread is titled. Not, "Is he a child molester?" because that's just too silly.

I think he does not really love kids. Again, I am only accusing him of indifference and I have . . .

1. A reason for doing it (he won't give to a charity I know).
2. A cure for the reason (just giving to the charity, dude).
As of yet, you have not posted any information on this charity that is supposed to be helping children (despite being asked for that information several days ago). For all we know, this 'charity' could be a scam, or it could be totally ineffective in actually acomplishing its stated goals.

This board is geared towards skepticism. Skeptics demand information and proof. You have not provided any regarding this 'charity'. I know I certaily wouldn't trust it based on what you've told me so far.

Once again... failure to contribute to YOUR favorite charity does not mean that the individual does not support the goals of the charity. They may simply not like the tactics of the charity, or view the charity as inefficient in accomplishing its goals.
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Old 7th August 2007, 08:26 AM   #123
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As of yet, you have not posted any information on this charity that is supposed to be helping children (despite being asked for that information several days ago). For all we know, this 'charity' could be a scam, or it could be totally ineffective in actually acomplishing its stated goals.

This board is geared towards skepticism. Skeptics demand information and proof. You have not provided any regarding this 'charity'. I know I certaily wouldn't trust it based on what you've told me so far.

Once again... failure to contribute to YOUR favorite charity does not mean that the individual does not support the goals of the charity. They may simply not like the tactics of the charity, or view the charity as inefficient in accomplishing its goals.
The charity is run by another Republican who is also a government employee. It's unlikely that he thinks of it the way he may think of Greenpeace. If he did, it would just mean that he was insane and suffering from delusions because employees of the Federal Government don't usually act like annoying sabotours . . . ecoterrorists. His being insane would win my argument perfectly since depraved indifference is certainly a cracked up state of mind.

I don't have to post a link to the charity here because:

1. Rady lives in San Diego and what the government folks want is well known. He knows where to find us, he just chooses not to do so every day. As I said, he won't listen. He turns a deaf ear to the truth and a blind eye to the atrocity of White slavery for his own reasons.

2. I already mentioned an easily verifiable source - The Port of San Diego. You can call them any time and ask if they ever had a, "Portmasters" - A Toastmasters International club meeting there. They will prove that I am not lying by transfering you to someone who has something to do with the club (a club officer) and that person may be able to direct you to the lady who runs the charity.

EDIT: Just thought of an option that doesn't involve the telephone. Toastmasters International undoubtably has a web site. Somewhere on that site is probably a listing of clubs in San Diego, California. One of them is, "Portmasters".

Option B.

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Old 7th August 2007, 08:30 AM   #124
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I feel so awful for you. I really, really do.
Kthxbye.
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Old 7th August 2007, 08:39 AM   #125
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Kthxbye.
Do you have a reason for typing like a l33t kiddy?
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Old 7th August 2007, 08:47 AM   #126
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Do you have a reason for typing like a l33t kiddy?
Oh that. It helps to avoid uber pwnage or whatever on gaming forums.

Kids r dumb.
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Old 7th August 2007, 09:02 AM   #127
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The charity is run by another Republican who is also a government employee. It's unlikely that he thinks of it the way he may think of Greenpeace.
He doesn't have to think of it as "Greenpeace" to consider the charity as being not worthy of receiving donations. He just has to consider it as being less effective at helping children than other charaties.

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I don't have to post a link to the charity here because:
Note: This is different than your earlier claims where you said you WERE going to post a referenc to the charity (but were going to do it after the weeked). so, what's changed? You want us to believe Rady doesn't like kids because there's a worthwhile charity that helps stop certain types of child abuse, you have to at LEAST show that such a charity exists.
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1. Rady lives in San Diego and what the government folks want is well known. He knows where to find us, he just chooses not to do so every day.
Why should it be up to Rady to 'try and find you'?
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As I said, he won't listen. He turns a deaf ear to the truth and a blind eye to the atrocity of White slavery for his own reasons.
Uhhh... no. Your arguments are based on rather shakey premises, such as how the police won't do anything because they're corrupt. I wouldn't give you a dime either based on your insane rantings here.
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2. I already mentioned an easily verifiable source - The Port of San Diego. You can call them any time and ask if they ever had a, "Portmasters" - A Toastmasters International club meeting there.
Uhhh... no.

YOU made the claim, YOU provide the evidence. That's the way it works. I have no intention of wasting my time trying to track down phantom leads all in the hope of trying to verify something that you were responsible for in the first place.
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Old 7th August 2007, 09:55 AM   #128
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Dude, I'm not going to jump through that hoop for you. Google can provide you with a link to Toastmasters International, and then to Portmasters. You don't have to leave your chair in front of your monitor to verify this. It's the friggin' PORT OF SAN DIEGO for the love of MIKE, man!!! What the duce?? It's a highly guarded government installation where billionaires and city officials conduct meetings to debate proposals for everything from water conservation to street maintenence . . . lots of matters important to the city.

It's so strange how your "logic" seems to paint a picture of me retreating from providing evidence I promised to deliver when the damn structure is a solid as solid as a rock squat there right by the airport. It's not goin' anywhere, man until the big one, maybe.

You are the perfect example of a man blinded by the miopia of logical fallacy. The woll is over your eyes, but not mine!!!

My GOD man!

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Old 7th August 2007, 10:52 AM   #129
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Dude, I'm not going to jump through that hoop for you.
And I'm not going to jump through hoops for YOU. Once again, you make the claim, you provide the evidence. Its a simple concept and one you should understand when participating on a forum populated with skeptics.

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Google can provide you with a link to Toastmasters International, and then to Portmasters.
What if I told you I did a search and found that the only charity I could find was actually a front for a scam artist who lied about "white slavery" rings in order to bilk money from people?

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You don't have to leave your chair in front of your monitor to verify this. It's the friggin' PORT OF SAN DIEGO for the love of MIKE, man!!!
If its so easy, then you should be doing it, to satisfy the demands for evidence provided by multiple people on this forum.

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It's so strange how your "logic" seems to paint a picture of me retreating from providing evidence I promised to deliver when the damn structure is a solid as solid as a rock squat there right by the airport.
During the weekend, you promised you'd provide a reference to the charity. Now, you are saying you will not.

Therefore, you retreated.

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You are the perfect example of a man blinded by the miopia of logical fallacy. The woll is over your eyes, but not mine!!!
Nope, I'm a man who, when presented with a rather bizarre claim, demands evidence to back up the claims. You did not provide that evidence.
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Old 7th August 2007, 11:48 AM   #130
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Do you have a reason for typing like a l33t kiddy?

He apparently thinks I'm 12, instead of 12 times 4. It's okay. Getting mad at him won't help anyone. He deserves pity, and I do, indeed, pity him greatly.
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Old 7th August 2007, 11:52 AM   #131
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http://maps.google.com/maps?sourceid...num=1&ct=image

http://www.portofsandiego.org/

It couldn't be simpler.
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Old 7th August 2007, 11:53 AM   #132
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He apparently thinks I'm 12, instead of 12 times 4. It's okay. Getting mad at him won't help anyone. He deserves pity, and I do, indeed, pity him greatly.
Okay there bud.
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Old 7th August 2007, 12:00 PM   #133
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Nope, nothing on those links about your mythical anti-white slavery charity. I'm beginning to think that, like bigfoot, it doesn't exist. Where's the charity name and/or reference that you promised on the weekend? Do you regularly make a habit of breaking promises? Does your god smile on you when you lie like that?
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Old 7th August 2007, 01:08 PM   #134
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Ridiculous. All of the information is available on the web and could be retrieved through e-mail. That's the bottom line.
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Old 7th August 2007, 04:22 PM   #135
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Ridiculous. All of the information is available on the web and could be retrieved through e-mail. That's the bottom line.
Nope. Nothing on there about "portmasters", either. I see Aaron Neville's coming to town, though. Why not go ask him if he's going to save mafia-abducted children?
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Old 7th August 2007, 09:56 PM   #136
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Oh that. It helps to avoid uber pwnage or whatever on gaming forums.

Kids r dumb.
Ys u sem 2b!
the fact that there is a Portmaster in SD is in no way proof of an organization like you described or even that the person you described is not sufficient. No such organization as you describe has web/net presence, no posts, no site, no nuthin'. So, she was lying, you are lying or you are wrong - unless you can present proof to the contrary.

And, to verify, neither site you give (one is a google map proving, I guess, that the San Diego Port exists -the other its organization and related info). No pedophiles there. Or pedophile charities either!

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Old 7th August 2007, 11:30 PM   #137
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Ridiculous. All of the information is available on the web and could be retrieved through e-mail. That's the bottom line.
Once again, since you seem to be a little slow on the uptake..

you made the claim, you provide the evidence.

Given the fact that you seem to be a supporter of the charity yourself, how can you NOT know the name? It would have taken less time for you just to type the name of the charity rather than bombard us with useless links.

More and more you're looking like a troll.

Just out of curiosity, when Rady was approached about giving to this charity, did anyone actually tell him the name of it, or give any information? Or did they (as you are doing) just say "give me some money... you can use the internet to find what the charity actually does".
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Bump.

Still hoping to find out where to send my donations to free the poor Mafia abducted children.
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