Perhaps a stupid question?

Obviousman · 11th August 2007, 04:58 AM

Okay, I'm not a magician. I don't have any great interest but I do remember reading a book back in the late 1970s that explained a lot of tricks and how to do them. I thought it was fascinating.

Where can I find such a book today? Or preferably, a website?

AgeGap · 11th August 2007, 05:09 AM

Go to Youtube then look for "magic" then dont believe everything you see or read. A great source of magic books would be the remainder stores or a good second hand book store. Also try your local library. All obvious but with a little patience you can find some absolute gems. If you don't have any great interest though, why bother?

Obviousman · 11th August 2007, 05:33 AM

No great interest, but I have always liked the craft. Perhaps like hypnotism; I have a passing interest, and have learnt to do a couple of "parlor tricks" with the knowledge.

I have eclectic interests....

JonWhite · 11th August 2007, 10:02 AM

The general concensus from another thread is that Mark Wilson's "Complete Course in Magic" is probably the best place to start.

If coins particularly, J. B. Bobo's "Modern Coin Magic".

If cards, Jean Hugard's "Royal Road to Card Magic".

If mentalism, Corinda's "13 Steps to Mentalism".

If hypnosis, please explain for what purpose.

None of the above are expensive.

Azrael 5 · 11th August 2007, 02:16 PM

Should we give such advice to such a question? The Op justs wants to learn secrets rather than the art.

AgeGap · 11th August 2007, 04:49 PM

Yes, Obviousman is being pointed to information that is in general circulation. Once it is there, it is there. That may beg the question whether the secrets be made public in the first place but disclosure of the art has a long history.
http://www.esotericarchives.com/solomon/scot16.htm
Once it's out, it's out.

Obviousman · 11th August 2007, 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by JonWhite

The general concensus from another thread is that Mark Wilson's "Complete Course in Magic" is probably the best place to start.

If coins particularly, J. B. Bobo's "Modern Coin Magic".

If cards, Jean Hugard's "Royal Road to Card Magic".

If mentalism, Corinda's "13 Steps to Mentalism".

If hypnosis, please explain for what purpose.

None of the above are expensive.

Thanks - that is what I am after. It's just curiosity.

JonWhite · 12th August 2007, 08:07 AM

Originally Posted by Azrael 5

Should we give such advice to such a question? The Op justs wants to learn secrets rather than the art.

Yeah, I must admit that I paused before posting it. I finally figured that none of these books are at all hard to discover and were even mentioned in the other thread anyway.

One can only hope that curiosity will become at the least a greater appreciation.

MelBrooksfan · 14th August 2007, 10:36 AM

We can hope. Performing magic hasn't ruined watching it for me. It's really interesting to see how a given performer dresses up a trick as compared to another.

JonWhite · 14th August 2007, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by MelBrooksfan

We can hope. Performing magic hasn't ruined watching it for me. It's really interesting to see how a given performer dresses up a trick as compared to another.

Yeah, that's how it works for me too.

If I don't know how it's done I enjoy being fooled and the intellectual game of trying to work out how.

If I do know how it's done then I can appreciate the artistry involved and the individual presentation.

A win either way.

Unless it's Chris Angel.

Inanna · 30th August 2007, 10:11 AM

Can anyone tell me something about David Copperfield,the famous magician?

firecoins · 30th August 2007, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by Inanna

Can anyone tell me something about David Copperfield,the famous magician?

Copperfield is not his real last name.

JPK · 30th August 2007, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by Inanna

Can anyone tell me something about David Copperfield,the famous magician?

He's bigger than a bread basket. (Most of the time )
JPK

Inanna · 30th August 2007, 12:55 PM

What do you mean JPK if you mean anything at all?Plz explain.

Azrael 5 · 30th August 2007, 04:40 PM

He refuses to visit the U.K due to unkind media upon his last visit.

Bob Klase · 30th August 2007, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by Inanna

Can anyone tell me something about David Copperfield,the famous magician?

I can tell you that you get over 2 million hits if you type in 'David Copperfield' in google. About 1/2 of them are related the Charles Dickens novel, but type 'David Copperfield magic' and you still get over 700,000.

What else would you like to know?

DJM · 31st August 2007, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by Azrael 5

He refuses to visit the U.K due to unkind media upon his last visit.

Did they cause him trouble for being Jewish?

Azrael 5 · 31st August 2007, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by DJM

Did they cause him trouble for being Jewish?

Not unless you call stoning him "trouble" ?

Inanna · 31st August 2007, 12:44 PM

Thank you Bob Klase.

DJM · 1st September 2007, 05:14 AM

Originally Posted by Azrael 5

Not unless you call stoning him "trouble" ?

Seems like they were a bit nosy around him..

yairhol · 6th September 2007, 08:51 AM

David Copperfield is a GOD!
Seriously.
No I'm just kidding.
Ha ha fooled you. He is really a god.

Regards,
Yair

11th August 2007, 04:58 AM	#1
Obviousman Critical Thinker Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: NSW, Australia Posts: 395	Perhaps a stupid question? Okay, I'm not a magician. I don't have any great interest but I do remember reading a book back in the late 1970s that explained a lot of tricks and how to do them. I thought it was fascinating. Where can I find such a book today? Or preferably, a website?
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11th August 2007, 05:09 AM	#2
AgeGap Graduate Poster Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,719	Go to Youtube then look for "magic" then dont believe everything you see or read. A great source of magic books would be the remainder stores or a good second hand book store. Also try your local library. All obvious but with a little patience you can find some absolute gems. If you don't have any great interest though, why bother?
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11th August 2007, 05:33 AM	#3
Obviousman Critical Thinker Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: NSW, Australia Posts: 395	No great interest, but I have always liked the craft. Perhaps like hypnotism; I have a passing interest, and have learnt to do a couple of "parlor tricks" with the knowledge. I have eclectic interests....
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11th August 2007, 10:02 AM	#4
JonWhite Muse Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: London Posts: 603	The general concensus from another thread is that Mark Wilson's "Complete Course in Magic" is probably the best place to start. If coins particularly, J. B. Bobo's "Modern Coin Magic". If cards, Jean Hugard's "Royal Road to Card Magic". If mentalism, Corinda's "13 Steps to Mentalism". If hypnosis, please explain for what purpose. None of the above are expensive.
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11th August 2007, 02:16 PM	#5
Azrael 5 Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Yorkshire,Uk Posts: 4,171	Should we give such advice to such a question? The Op justs wants to learn secrets rather than the art.
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11th August 2007, 04:49 PM	#6
AgeGap Graduate Poster Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,719	Yes, Obviousman is being pointed to information that is in general circulation. Once it is there, it is there. That may beg the question whether the secrets be made public in the first place but disclosure of the art has a long history. http://www.esotericarchives.com/solomon/scot16.htm Once it's out, it's out.
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11th August 2007, 10:40 PM	#7
Obviousman Critical Thinker Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: NSW, Australia Posts: 395	Originally Posted by JonWhite The general concensus from another thread is that Mark Wilson's "Complete Course in Magic" is probably the best place to start. If coins particularly, J. B. Bobo's "Modern Coin Magic". If cards, Jean Hugard's "Royal Road to Card Magic". If mentalism, Corinda's "13 Steps to Mentalism". If hypnosis, please explain for what purpose. None of the above are expensive. Thanks - that is what I am after. It's just curiosity.
	__________________ Any time it can be proved that one of my studies is wrong, I am more eager than anyone to acknowledge AND CORRECT IT. Jack White Little White Lies.......

12th August 2007, 08:07 AM	#8
JonWhite Muse Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: London Posts: 603	Originally Posted by Azrael 5 Should we give such advice to such a question? The Op justs wants to learn secrets rather than the art. Yeah, I must admit that I paused before posting it. I finally figured that none of these books are at all hard to discover and were even mentioned in the other thread anyway. One can only hope that curiosity will become at the least a greater appreciation.
	__________________ "In cases where prior knowledge is available, the alternative to 'an open mind' is not 'a closed mind'. It is 'an informed mind'. In such contexts, any appeal to 'keep an open mind' is an appeal to prefer ignorance over knowledge" Ian Rowland Last edited by JonWhite; 12th August 2007 at 08:10 AM.

14th August 2007, 10:36 AM	#9
MelBrooksfan Graduate Poster Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,011	We can hope. Performing magic hasn't ruined watching it for me. It's really interesting to see how a given performer dresses up a trick as compared to another.

14th August 2007, 11:26 AM	#10
JonWhite Muse Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: London Posts: 603	Originally Posted by MelBrooksfan We can hope. Performing magic hasn't ruined watching it for me. It's really interesting to see how a given performer dresses up a trick as compared to another. Yeah, that's how it works for me too. If I don't know how it's done I enjoy being fooled and the intellectual game of trying to work out how. If I do know how it's done then I can appreciate the artistry involved and the individual presentation. A win either way. Unless it's Chris Angel.
	__________________ "In cases where prior knowledge is available, the alternative to 'an open mind' is not 'a closed mind'. It is 'an informed mind'. In such contexts, any appeal to 'keep an open mind' is an appeal to prefer ignorance over knowledge" Ian Rowland

30th August 2007, 10:11 AM	#11
Inanna Scholar Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: The plain of Lethe in Hades Posts: 78	Can anyone tell me something about David Copperfield,the famous magician?

30th August 2007, 11:33 AM	#12
firecoins Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Nyack, NY Posts: 3,054	Originally Posted by Inanna Can anyone tell me something about David Copperfield,the famous magician? Copperfield is not his real last name.
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30th August 2007, 11:46 AM	#13
JPK Muse Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 963	Originally Posted by Inanna Can anyone tell me something about David Copperfield,the famous magician? He's bigger than a bread basket. (Most of the time ) JPK
JPK Muse Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 963	__________________ "I think it's better to have ideas. You can change an idea. Changing a belief is trickier... A belief's a dangerous thing. People die for it. People kill for it." Rufus, the 13th apostle, Dogma "You can't prove air." Sylvia Browne www.StopSylvia.com John Kardel

30th August 2007, 12:55 PM	#14
Inanna Scholar Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: The plain of Lethe in Hades Posts: 78	What do you mean JPK if you mean anything at all?Plz explain.

30th August 2007, 04:40 PM	#15
Azrael 5 Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Yorkshire,Uk Posts: 4,171	He refuses to visit the U.K due to unkind media upon his last visit.
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30th August 2007, 06:30 PM	#16
Bob Klase Master Poster Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Largo, FL Posts: 2,389	Originally Posted by Inanna Can anyone tell me something about David Copperfield,the famous magician? I can tell you that you get over 2 million hits if you type in 'David Copperfield' in google. About 1/2 of them are related the Charles Dickens novel, but type 'David Copperfield magic' and you still get over 700,000. What else would you like to know?

31st August 2007, 10:44 AM	#17
DJM Muse Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 783	Originally Posted by Azrael 5 He refuses to visit the U.K due to unkind media upon his last visit. Did they cause him trouble for being Jewish?
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31st August 2007, 12:08 PM	#18
Azrael 5 Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Yorkshire,Uk Posts: 4,171	Originally Posted by DJM Did they cause him trouble for being Jewish? Not unless you call stoning him "trouble" ?
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31st August 2007, 12:44 PM	#19
Inanna Scholar Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: The plain of Lethe in Hades Posts: 78	Thank you Bob Klase.

1st September 2007, 05:14 AM	#20
DJM Muse Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 783	Originally Posted by Azrael 5 Not unless you call stoning him "trouble" ? Seems like they were a bit nosy around him..
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6th September 2007, 08:51 AM	#21
yairhol Graduate Poster Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,220	David Copperfield is a GOD! Seriously. No I'm just kidding. Ha ha fooled you. He is really a god. Regards, Yair
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