OMG!! The first Lady!!!

Oliver · 16th August 2007, 07:55 PM

What if Hillary gets the next presidency?

Wont this be very embarrassing for Bill?

Mercutio · 16th August 2007, 08:09 PM

No.

Loss Leader · 16th August 2007, 08:12 PM

What?

I mean, what?

[On a related but slightly less insane note, in the US it is common to refer to all ex-Presidents as "Mr. President" for the rest of their lives. I have wondered if President Clinton would ask politely to be called "Mr. Clinton" if Senator Clinton were to become President.]

Oliver · 16th August 2007, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by Mercutio

No.

Why not? Theoretically his title will be "first lady" then.

And this might look like this:
http://www.worth1000.com/cache/conte...toshop#entries

shemp · 16th August 2007, 09:59 PM

Under the Constitution, he would be required to have a sex change within 90 days of Hillary taking office.

Puppycow · 17th August 2007, 12:47 AM

I think the term would be "first gentleman." "Gentleman" is the male counterpart to "lady."

Oliver · 17th August 2007, 01:17 AM

Originally Posted by Puppycow

I think the term would be "first gentleman." "Gentleman" is the male counterpart to "lady."

Remembering Bill's "Good ol' days", the term "first gentleman" probably would be outrageous for the Christian moralizers.

...I'm all for the term.

Whiplash · 17th August 2007, 03:55 AM

The idea of Bill Clinton being the first "First Gentlemen" is (to me) quite disturbing.

Perhaps something like "First Philanderer" is more appropriate?

(now don't jump down my throat, this was said firmly tounge in cheek, just playing)

Garrette · 17th August 2007, 06:50 AM

Originally Posted by shemp

Under the Constitution, he would be required to have a sex change within 90 days of Hillary taking office.

My understanding of his shenanigans leads me to believe that the Constitution isn't big enough to cover it.

MWare · 17th August 2007, 07:09 AM

Originally Posted by Loss Leader

[On a related but slightly less insane note, in the US it is common to refer to all ex-Presidents as "Mr. President" for the rest of their lives. I have wondered if President Clinton would ask politely to be called "Mr. Clinton" if Senator Clinton were to become President.]

If a husband and wife are both doctors, generally I've seen both use the honorific (Dr. and Dr. Smith). I would be surprised if people stopped referring to him as President Clinton. President Bush 1 didn't lose the title when his son was elected. This is no different.

scratchy · 17th August 2007, 07:18 AM

Im more curious how this will play out between them. What do you think, will Bill have a hard time staying out of his wifes way?

MWare · 17th August 2007, 07:31 AM

Originally Posted by scratchy

Im more curious how this will play out between them. What do you think, will Bill have a hard time staying out of his wifes way?

Personally, I think he's the best thing she's got going for her campaign; he definitely softens her image.

Of course, I don't expect he'll be in charge of selecting interns.

Gurdur · 17th August 2007, 07:36 AM

Originally Posted by Oliver

Why not?

Because he's more grown up than you are?

Quote:

Theoretically his title will be "first lady" then.

Wrong.

dudalb · 17th August 2007, 12:21 PM

God,Oliver,are you trying to make yourself look like a fool?
If so,you are suceeding.
I don't think anybody,Christians included,objects to "The First Gentlemen" as being a term for Bill when and if.
BTW you really are ignorant about most aspects of American Life.

Loss Leader · 17th August 2007, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by MWare

If a husband and wife are both doctors, generally I've seen both use the honorific (Dr. and Dr. Smith). I would be surprised if people stopped referring to him as President Clinton. President Bush 1 didn't lose the title when his son was elected. This is no different.

The difference is that President Bush and pResident Bush don't live in the same house. Just think of the confusion on the phone lines: "President Clinton, please." And imagine the headlines: President Clinton Supports President Clinton or Clinton Scandal Reminiscent of Clinton Scandal.

dudalb · 17th August 2007, 12:24 PM

The common courtesy of referring to Ex Presidents as "President" will probably be suspended if Hillary wins just to avoid confusion.
I guess those who hate Hillary will have some fun with the address of "Madame President" though.

SpaceMonkeyZero · 17th August 2007, 12:26 PM

The odd thing is that they would be referred to as Mr & Mrs President since Bill keeps his title as President even after. Poor Hilary... still 2nd fiddle.

Being a social moderate and fiscal conservative, I liked Bill Clinton in the 90s.

I fear his wife though. She seems like she's in it for the power, and her political stance is just a means to the ends.

petra10 · 17th August 2007, 12:44 PM

When Maggie Thatcher was prime minister her husband was known as The old drunk.Every where they went he seemed to bit drunk and tottering after her.I can see the same fate for Bill only with a bit more of the dirty old man thing.

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MWare Muse Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 666	Originally Posted by Loss Leader [On a related but slightly less insane note, in the US it is common to refer to all ex-Presidents as "Mr. President" for the rest of their lives. I have wondered if President Clinton would ask politely to be called "Mr. Clinton" if Senator Clinton were to become President.] If a husband and wife are both doctors, generally I've seen both use the honorific (Dr. and Dr. Smith). I would be surprised if people stopped referring to him as President Clinton. President Bush 1 didn't lose the title when his son was elected. This is no different.
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scratchy Muse Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: In the happy state of denial Posts: 607	Im more curious how this will play out between them. What do you think, will Bill have a hard time staying out of his wifes way?

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MWare Muse Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 666	Originally Posted by scratchy Im more curious how this will play out between them. What do you think, will Bill have a hard time staying out of his wifes way? Personally, I think he's the best thing she's got going for her campaign; he definitely softens her image. Of course, I don't expect he'll be in charge of selecting interns.
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Gurdur Person Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 4,875	Originally Posted by Oliver Why not? Because he's more grown up than you are? Quote: Theoretically his title will be "first lady" then. Wrong.
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17th August 2007, 12:21 PM	#14
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 22,843	God,Oliver,are you trying to make yourself look like a fool? If so,you are suceeding. I don't think anybody,Christians included,objects to "The First Gentlemen" as being a term for Bill when and if. BTW you really are ignorant about most aspects of American Life.

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Loss Leader Opinionated Jerk Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New York Posts: 11,885	Originally Posted by MWare If a husband and wife are both doctors, generally I've seen both use the honorific (Dr. and Dr. Smith). I would be surprised if people stopped referring to him as President Clinton. President Bush 1 didn't lose the title when his son was elected. This is no different. The difference is that President Bush and pResident Bush don't live in the same house. Just think of the confusion on the phone lines: "President Clinton, please." And imagine the headlines: President Clinton Supports President Clinton or Clinton Scandal Reminiscent of Clinton Scandal.
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dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 22,843	The common courtesy of referring to Ex Presidents as "President" will probably be suspended if Hillary wins just to avoid confusion. I guess those who hate Hillary will have some fun with the address of "Madame President" though.

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SpaceMonkeyZero Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: hi Barb!!!!! Posts: 1,287	The odd thing is that they would be referred to as Mr & Mrs President since Bill keeps his title as President even after. Poor Hilary... still 2nd fiddle. Being a social moderate and fiscal conservative, I liked Bill Clinton in the 90s. I fear his wife though. She seems like she's in it for the power, and her political stance is just a means to the ends.

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petra10 Graduate Poster Join Date: May 2007 Location: scotland uk Posts: 1,796	When Maggie Thatcher was prime minister her husband was known as The old drunk.Every where they went he seemed to bit drunk and tottering after her.I can see the same fate for Bill only with a bit more of the dirty old man thing.