Deutsche Bank Fire

stilicho · 29th August 2007, 01:20 AM

Not sure if this was posted here before but I couldn't find anything in the search functions. This is regarding the recent fire in NYC at the Deutsche Bank Building. This is the same Deutsche Bank that is frequently brought up by the Ruppert-ish conspiracist ("Buzzy", anyone?) and, like Silverstein, apparently wanted to destroy their assets to encourage war in Iraq--or something like that.

Here's one source: http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/3092

Culled from that are the following gems:

No I do not suggest, that it [was] somebody from the 9/11 truth movement. It is far more likely that it [was] a group of people from inside the American intelligence community, who want to stop the Bush administration before they start a new war against Iran, which will definitely ruin America financially and destroy its military.

...and...

Now while they can´t get a permission to just "pull" the building, since it would cause another wave of air-pollution in Manhattan, they decided to pull another fire trick. They might have laced the building with explosives to pull it down after a few hours of fire. However somehow, the efficient fire-fighters disrupted the plan.

This kind of thinking is very reminiscent of the Killtown piece I saw claiming that former Yankees pitcher Cory Lidle crashed his aircraft on purpose into a Manhattan building to keep everyone in the USA scared of al-Qaeda and Usama's notorious 93 mph splitter.

Maybe Brett Tomko set the fire as a ploy to force a trade to the pinstripers.

jaydeehess · 29th August 2007, 03:48 AM

There is at least one other thread on the Deutsche Bank fire.
http://72.32.2.238/forumlive/showthread.php?t=90787
The ridiculous idea of this being deliberatly set by the big bad NWO or gov't was raised, in jest I believe.

Mostly the "truthers" claim that since this already damaged building did not collapse due to the fire that the towers and WTC 7 should not have collapsed either. They disregard that 14 floors had already been removed, that drywall and office furnishings had already been largely removed and that the building is completely a post and beam construction.

stilicho · 29th August 2007, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by jaydeehess

There is at least one other thread on the Deutsche Bank fire.
http://72.32.2.238/forumlive/showthread.php?t=90787
The ridiculous idea of this being deliberatly set by the big bad NWO or gov't was raised, in jest I believe.

I am not sure it's all in jest:

Quote:

Hopefully people that have seen WTC7 collapse will compare this event since it is so similar. The DB building was 40 stories tall and sustained massive amounts of debris. It also burned on 9/11... but didn't fail.

(Source: http://911blogger.com/node/10738 )

Did the Deustche Bank burn on SEP 11, 2001? Prison Planet doesn't think so:

Quote:

This represents another modern day miracle in light of the commonly accepted premise that since 9/11, all steel buildings that suffer limited fire damage implode within two hours. This building had even suffered structural damage on 9/11 and had been partially dismantled.

But Prison Planet helpfully continues to explain that, nowadays, " limited fires in tall buildings are 99% certain to cause an almost instantaneous collapse."

(Source: http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...07Building.htm )

So there both was and was not a fire in the Deutsche Bank Building on SEP 11, 2001 and the same structure both should have and should not have collapsed on AUG 18, 2007. Damn--where's my scorecard?

29th August 2007, 01:20 AM	#1
stilicho Trurl's Electronic Bard Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 4,714	Deutsche Bank Fire Not sure if this was posted here before but I couldn't find anything in the search functions. This is regarding the recent fire in NYC at the Deutsche Bank Building. This is the same Deutsche Bank that is frequently brought up by the Ruppert-ish conspiracist ("Buzzy", anyone?) and, like Silverstein, apparently wanted to destroy their assets to encourage war in Iraq--or something like that. Here's one source: http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/3092 Culled from that are the following gems: No I do not suggest, that it [was] somebody from the 9/11 truth movement. It is far more likely that it [was] a group of people from inside the American intelligence community, who want to stop the Bush administration before they start a new war against Iran, which will definitely ruin America financially and destroy its military. ...and... Now while they can´t get a permission to just "pull" the building, since it would cause another wave of air-pollution in Manhattan, they decided to pull another fire trick. They might have laced the building with explosives to pull it down after a few hours of fire. However somehow, the efficient fire-fighters disrupted the plan. This kind of thinking is very reminiscent of the Killtown piece I saw claiming that former Yankees pitcher Cory Lidle crashed his aircraft on purpose into a Manhattan building to keep everyone in the USA scared of al-Qaeda and Usama's notorious 93 mph splitter. Maybe Brett Tomko set the fire as a ploy to force a trade to the pinstripers.
	__________________ "Suppose you're thinking about a plate of shrimp. Suddenly someone will say, 'Plate' or 'Shrimp' or 'Plate of shrimp,' out of the blue. No explanation and there's no point in looking for one either. It's all part of the cosmic unconsciousness." -- REPO MAN LondonJohn: "I don't need to cite."

29th August 2007, 03:48 AM	#2
jaydeehess Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: I beedunk 40 miles from the border Posts: 10,810	There is at least one other thread on the Deutsche Bank fire. http://72.32.2.238/forumlive/showthread.php?t=90787 The ridiculous idea of this being deliberatly set by the big bad NWO or gov't was raised, in jest I believe. Mostly the "truthers" claim that since this already damaged building did not collapse due to the fire that the towers and WTC 7 should not have collapsed either. They disregard that 14 floors had already been removed, that drywall and office furnishings had already been largely removed and that the building is completely a post and beam construction.
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29th August 2007, 03:42 PM	#3
stilicho Trurl's Electronic Bard Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 4,714	Originally Posted by jaydeehess There is at least one other thread on the Deutsche Bank fire. http://72.32.2.238/forumlive/showthread.php?t=90787 The ridiculous idea of this being deliberatly set by the big bad NWO or gov't was raised, in jest I believe. I am not sure it's all in jest: Quote: Hopefully people that have seen WTC7 collapse will compare this event since it is so similar. The DB building was 40 stories tall and sustained massive amounts of debris. It also burned on 9/11... but didn't fail. (Source: http://911blogger.com/node/10738 ) Did the Deustche Bank burn on SEP 11, 2001? Prison Planet doesn't think so: Quote: This represents another modern day miracle in light of the commonly accepted premise that since 9/11, all steel buildings that suffer limited fire damage implode within two hours. This building had even suffered structural damage on 9/11 and had been partially dismantled. But Prison Planet helpfully continues to explain that, nowadays, " limited fires in tall buildings are 99% certain to cause an almost instantaneous collapse." (Source: http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...07Building.htm ) So there both was and was not a fire in the Deutsche Bank Building on SEP 11, 2001 and the same structure both should have and should not have collapsed on AUG 18, 2007. Damn--where's my scorecard?
	__________________ "Suppose you're thinking about a plate of shrimp. Suddenly someone will say, 'Plate' or 'Shrimp' or 'Plate of shrimp,' out of the blue. No explanation and there's no point in looking for one either. It's all part of the cosmic unconsciousness." -- REPO MAN LondonJohn: "I don't need to cite."