there is no doubt in my mind I'm voting for Bush

[Nie Trink Wasser]

I didn't vote for him last time. I didn't vote at all on purpose.

This time there is no doubt in my mind who is the only capable person to hold that office.

The more I experience the slimey nature of almost all liberals and the rigid nature of the extreme right, this is the only logical conclusion for me.

the guy is honest and capable of doing the job with honor.

and that's what I have to say.

http://www.thrusts.org/bush.html

[Tricky]

Quote:

Originally posted by Nie Trink Wasser
I didn't vote for him last time. I didn't vote at all on purpose.

This time there is no doubt in my mind who is the only capable person to hold that office.

The more I experience the slimey nature of almost all liberals and the rigid nature of the extreme right, this is the only logical conclusion for me.

the guy is honest and capable of doing the job with honor.

and that's what I have to say.

http://www.thrusts.org/bush.html

That is wonderful news, NTW. I hope you campaign for him widely and vociferously, using the same wonderful mixture of intelligence, logic and persuasiveness you use here in JREF.

Thank you again!

[clk]

"fight the thought police, VOTE BUSH"
I thought Bush and Ashcroft were the thought police?

[Upchurch]

Quote:

Originally posted by Tricky
Thank you again!

[Upchurch]

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Originally posted by clk
I thought Bush and Ashcroft were the thought police?

Not really. They'd just like to do all the thinking for us. That's why they keep everything top secret. We don't need to know.

[Lurker]

NTW:

Please don't let your undying support for Bush allow you to do something illegal. You do realize you need to be a minimum of 18 years of age to vote don't you?

Lurker

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Originally posted by Nie Trink Wasser
I didn't vote for him last time. I didn't vote at all on purpose.

As opposed to not voting by accident?

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This time there is no doubt in my mind who is the only capable person to hold that office.

The only person? I'd understand "most," (and totally disagree) but "only?" Plus, is the lack of doubt in your mind or Jim Goad's? You seem to mix them up now and then.

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The more I experience the slimey nature of almost all liberals and the rigid nature of the extreme right, this is the only logical conclusion for me.

From criteria stated it seems more emotional than logical. Plus there is no logic presented. Do you like the extreme right because it is rigid? Is Bush your idea of a centrist?

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the guy is honest and capable of doing the job with honor.

That's what they said about Jimmy Carter.

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and that's what I have to say.

That's nice. I think you are simple and are just trolling for responses with a slapdash post, as I'd hate to think this was your actual thought process.

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Ahh. The thought police. Don't worry, the police won't come for you and make you start thinking. You will be free to blather no matter who the next president is.

[Nie Trink Wasser]

Quote:

Originally posted by clk
"fight the thought police, VOTE BUSH"
I thought Bush and Ashcroft were the thought police?

no, that's what the thought police have beaten into your mind.

"2+2=5"

[Grammatron]

Quote:

Originally posted by Nie Trink Wasser


no, that's what the thought police have beaten into your mind.

"2+2=5"

So who is the thought police, exactly?

[hgc]

Love that picture. Brought to you by the same people who thought to pose W in a flight suit with accentuated crotch. "Hmm, I got it! Let's put him in a white hat and have him put on a 'thousand mile stare,' kind of like squinting into the sun." Yeah, it just screams "honesty" and "honor." When the time comes, they'll pose the Democratic nominee in a black hat, with a scowl like that on Jack Palance in "Shane."

[Upchurch]

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Originally posted by Nie Trink Wasser

http://www.thrusts.org/bush.html

I just checked out the link. It has to be the dumbest website I've ever seen. It's got to be some strange kind of spoof.

[Nie Trink Wasser]

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Originally posted by Suddenly
As opposed to not voting by accident?

WHOA HO HO ! Quite the jokester.

actually it was either Nader or nothing, and I would rather have been responsible for nothing in that election.

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The only person? I'd understand "most," (and totally disagree) but "only?" Plus, is the lack of doubt in your mind or Jim Goad's? You seem to mix them up now and then.

yes, I'm certain he is the only person capable of doing it correctly. Unlike the others, he's not scripted and posesses a spine

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From criteria stated it seems more emotional than logical.

only because your logic is based on emotion as a reaction to my post. My criteria comes from logic, but your comments come from a compulsive need for drama and distortion.

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Plus there is no logic presented. Do you like the extreme right because it is rigid? Is Bush your idea of a centrist?[/b]

learn to read and then learn to have a discussion like a human being and not like a lawyer-with-a-funded-agenda

I don't like the extreme right no matter how hard you try to insinuate that I do. Bush is more of a centrist than any other bs candidate pretending to be libertarian or labeling themselves as a "moderate". He leans right as do I.....it's never done me wrong so Im sure he'll fair well with the same attitude.

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That's what they said about Jimmy Carter.

except in this case, it's true and not pr.

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[/b] That's nice. I think you are simple and are just trolling for responses with a slapdash post, as I'd hate to think this was your actual thought process.

you're a smear campaign in a quest to call me a troll with no logic and it's comical.

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Ahh. The thought police. Don't worry, the police won't come for you and make you start thinking. You will be free to blather no matter who the next president is.

the country becomes a sick place to live when liberals are in control. It's bad enough as it is with a conservative in control.

pseudo intellectuals and pseudo honesty......you've got that down to an art.

[Nie Trink Wasser]

Quote:

Originally posted by Grammatron


So who is the thought police, exactly?

the marxists, maoists, leftists and enemies of individuality in general. It can be witnessed mostly en masse with liberals and their manias.

just take a look at the decay of universities in this country if you need to see thought police.

[Upchurch]

Quote:

Originally posted by Nie Trink Wasser
just take a look at the decay of universities in this country if you need to see thought police.

Ah, yes. The belief that liberals control the universities. Nice and inacurate.

[Grammatron]

Quote:

Originally posted by Nie Trink Wasser


the marxists, maoists, leftists and enemies of individuality in general. It can be witnessed mostly en masse with liberals and their manias.

And how exactly are they policing your thoughts?

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just take a look at the decay of universities in this country if you need to see thought police.

Ok I took a look, now please define decay and what comprises policing thoughts.

[hgc]

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Originally posted by Nie Trink Wasser

...

just take a look at the decay of universities in this country if you need to see thought police.

I know nothing of the decay of universities in this country. I trust you'll provide further information.

[Nie Trink Wasser]

Quote:

Originally posted by Upchurch

Ah, yes. The belief that liberals control the universities. Nice and inacurate.

sort of like the "liberal media myth" meme of you and your chums.

to bad Walter Cronkite had to prove that it isnt a myth. http://www.centredaily.com/mld/daily...on/6530182.htm

Upchurch, I mean, Booger, one day you'll realize that it doesnt matter how much arguable information you post here it won't cover up the reality of what's happening.....find another hobby.

your filibusters here only prove how fast and furious you can click your mouse....thats it.

[Nie Trink Wasser]

Quote:

Originally posted by Grammatron


And how exactly are they policing your thoughts?


Ok I took a look, now please define decay and what comprises policing thoughts.

http://www.studentsforacademicfreedom.org/

and


PICKETING 101
By Steve Malanga


Just when you thought our universities -- with their multiculti curricula,
anti-Americanism and intolerance of debate -- couldn't possibly get any
more partisan, along comes the next new thing: the labor movement's
successful co-opting of academic departments and programs. For years,
universities have offered courses in "labor studies," often taught by
ardent labor activists. Since the mid-'90s, however, when the movement
began to revive under AFL-CIO chief John Sweeney, these departments have
defined their mission chiefly as supporting labor and its organizing
efforts rather than educating students.


The nearly 50 such programs operating today churn out new initiatives in
support of labor. In 1995, for instance, U-Mass at Amherst began an M.A.
program in union leadership and administration -- in essence, a school for
union leaders that is emblematic of the transformation of the labor
studies field from a backwater of continuing education to postgraduate
academic status. In the late '90s, the labor center at Wayne State
University, working with the radical left-wing group Acorn, began
providing technical support to living-wage campaigns around the country,
which helped to spark successful efforts to raise the minimum wage for
some workers in dozens of cities and provided a model of how academics
could advance union causes. In 2001, the California legislature, in
response to union lobbying, dedicated millions in state money that has
gone for research supporting Big Labor positions.

- Wall Street Journal

[hgc]

Quote:

Originally posted by Nie Trink Wasser



http://www.studentsforacademicfreedom.org/

and


PICKETING 101
By Steve Malanga


Just when you thought our universities -- with their multiculti curricula,
anti-Americanism and intolerance of debate -- couldn't possibly get any
more partisan, along comes the next new thing: the labor movement's
successful co-opting of academic departments and programs. For years,
universities have offered courses in "labor studies," often taught by
ardent labor activists. Since the mid-'90s, however, when the movement
began to revive under AFL-CIO chief John Sweeney, these departments have
defined their mission chiefly as supporting labor and its organizing
efforts rather than educating students.


The nearly 50 such programs operating today churn out new initiatives in
support of labor. In 1995, for instance, U-Mass at Amherst began an M.A.
program in union leadership and administration -- in essence, a school for
union leaders that is emblematic of the transformation of the labor
studies field from a backwater of continuing education to postgraduate
academic status. In the late '90s, the labor center at Wayne State
University, working with the radical left-wing group Acorn, began
providing technical support to living-wage campaigns around the country,
which helped to spark successful efforts to raise the minimum wage for
some workers in dozens of cities and provided a model of how academics
could advance union causes. In 2001, the California legislature, in
response to union lobbying, dedicated millions in state money that has
gone for research supporting Big Labor positions.

- Wall Street Journal

Oh gee, 50 schools training labor leaders -- what a disaster. Every university is already in the business of training corporate leaders.

[Upchurch]

Quote:

Originally posted by Nie Trink Wasser
sort of like the "liberal media myth" meme of you and your chums.

to bad Walter Cronkite had to prove that it isnt a myth. http://www.centredaily.com/mld/daily...on/6530182.htm

OMG, did you even read Cronkite's commentary?

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believe that most of us reporters are liberal, but not because we consciously have chosen that particular color in the political spectrum.

More likely it is because most of us served our journalistic apprenticeships as reporters covering the seamier side of our cities -- the crimes, the tenement fires, the homeless and the hungry, the underclothed and undereducated.

We reached our intellectual adulthood with daily close-ups of the inequality in a nation that was founded on the commitment to equality for all. So we tend to side with the powerless rather than the powerful.

If that is what makes us liberals, so be it, just as long as in reporting the news we adhere to the first ideals of good journalism -- that news reports must be fair, accurate and unbiased.

{snip}

Incidentally, I looked up the definition of "liberal" in a Random House dictionary. It gave the synonyms for "liberal" as "progressive," "broad-minded," "unprejudiced," "beneficent."

The antonyms it offered: "reactionary" and "intolerant."

1) I'm almost positive that you and he are not using the same definition of "liberal".
2) He's not saying that the liberals (whoever they may be) are actively controling what information is and is not being presented to the country, as you imply.

[RSLancastr]

Quote:

from Walter Cronkite...
I looked up the definition of "liberal" in a Random House dictionary. It gave the synonyms for "liberal" as "progressive," "broad-minded," "unprejudiced," "beneficent."

The antonyms it offered: "reactionary" and "intolerant."

Dear Ed, the liberals are controlling the dictionaries!!

[Mr Manifesto]

Well, let's give Nie his due. He's provided some of his own opinion this time. I assume.

[Zep]

Nie, if GWB had a heart-attack and died before the next election, who would you vote for then? You don't seem to have left yourself with much wiggle-room - it's GWB or nothing.

[nightwind]

Well, I'm pretty conservative, and from Texas.

However, come the presidential election, I will be cancelling out Nie's vote, so note to worry, if you don't like Bush. I am taking care of it.

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Originally posted by Nie Trink Wasser


yes, I'm certain he is the only person capable of doing it correctly. Unlike the others, he's not scripted and posesses a spine

Not scripted? I'm sure you can't back that up with any evidence. He appears unscripted, but maybe thats because he's not smart enough to follow the script all the time.

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only because your logic is based on emotion as a reaction to my post. My criteria comes from logic, but your comments come from a compulsive need for drama and distortion.

What did I distort? You said liberals are "slimey" (sic) and righties are "rigid" and therefore you liked Bush. Where's the logic? What did I distort? Either you like rigidity, or you are saying Bush is a centrist. You were unclear. From now on I'll just apply whatever meaning I choose to your vague statements, as asking for clarification is somehow a "need for drama and distortion." I apologize for taking you seriously.

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learn to read and then learn to have a discussion like a human being and not like a lawyer-with-a-funded-agenda

Paranoid much? What agenda, the "try to figure out NTW" PAC? I can read, but you can't write clearly. That's why I am asking you to clarify some things, as I'd hate to wrongly assume what you mean.

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I don't like the extreme right no matter how hard you try to insinuate that I do. Bush is more of a centrist than any other bs candidate pretending to be libertarian or labeling themselves as a "moderate". He leans right as do I.....it's never done me wrong so Im sure he'll fair well with the same attitude.

What definition of "right" are you working off of? Would you have made Ashcroft AG?

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except in this case, it's true and not pr.

Maybe you don't remember Carter. It was accepted that he was "honest and capable of doing the job with honor." Problem was he wasn't effective. That was the point I was making. Being honest and honorable doesn't automatically result in effective.

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you're a smear campaign in a quest to call me a troll with no logic and it's comical.

No, I'm just curious if you are a troll or are just not very articulate. Your reasoning, if you call it that, is weak and you give the impression by your choice of topics that you are just trying to get a reaction. When pushed for clarification of one of your statements you respond with insults.

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the country becomes a sick place to live when liberals are in control. It's bad enough as it is with a conservative in control.

In what way is it "a sick place to live?" Can you explain?

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pseudo intellectuals and pseudo honesty......you've got that down to an art.

"Pseudo honesty?" Can you give specific instances where I have been untruthful?

[American]

Since I am the single most spiteful human being that ever lived, I too am voting for Bush.

James Traficant was my first choice, but I have to piss-off blowhards at every opportunity in my bitter, miserable life. A vote for Bush is one way to do that.

[Tricky]

Quote:

Originally posted by American
Since I am the single most spiteful human being that ever lived, I too am voting for Bush.

James Traficant was my first choice, but I have to piss-off blowhards at every opportunity in my bitter, miserable life. A vote for Bush is one way to do that.

All RIGHT! We have American and NTW on the Bush team! I'm feeling better already.

Um... you will be out there explaining Bush's policies to the masses, will you not, 'merican?

[corplinx]

I'll admit it. The first time I went into an american voting booth, it was to vote for dubya. He was the first candidate I ever felt like voting for. Until then, I was just another apathetic ex-gen-xer.

For the longest time I just didn't care. The Gore/Bush thing barely interested me. On one hand you had Gore who represented the current establishment (and who ran on a ironic "people versus the powerful" motto) and Bush who represented the former establishment. Needless to say I wasn't too impressed.

I think the first thing that made me realize there was more to Bush than a silver spoon and suit was when he did a 1 hour interview with Bill O'Reilly. He took a grilling and showed that A. he was more than suit and B. he was open to new ideas. Now, I know O'Reilly has someone become the new Rush Limbaugh for leftists to dismiss out of hand, but try to keep your knee from jerking too hard here. I think I saw that interview while I was stuck in a hotel room in snowy Burlington MA back in 2000.

The thing that actually made me want to get up and vote however, was when Bush called the reporter an @sshole and then refused to apologize. Shallow as it is, that was when I decided he had the kind of resolve the leader of the free world thinks. As I asw Cheney, Powell, Rice, and others coming on board, it became a no-brainer. These are the people I wanted in charge when the proverbial excrement hit the metaphorical fan.

Any democrat who wants my vote is going to have to put together some sort of dream-cabinet to beat bush out for my vote. There is a big baton to pass here.

[peptoabysmal]

Grrrr....

Nie...

You just hit on one of my pet peeves. People who complain about who is in office, but didn't bother to get off their duff and go vote.

Grrrr.....

I voted for Gore, but this time I'm voting for Dubya. I shudder to think what would happen to our fighting men if a Democrat gets into the office of President right now.

Well... Besides the fact that the Democrats have worn out their welcome with me

[crocodile deathroll]

I stated in another post that if things in Iraq are unchanged or deteriorate further then Bush will be kicked out of office so hard he will need a spacesuit.

Unless he can rig the voting system as well as he did in Florida, which would be an extremely grim prospect for the US and the world.

CDR

[subgenius]

I just might vote for Him, cause he's man enough not to be afraid to throw like a little girl:

[subgenius]

And he's so totally comfortable with himself, and unselfconscious that he has the courage to pick his nose in public:

[subgenius]

Not to mention being able to ride a Segway, holding a dog, while eating a pretzel.
The man can do it all.
I don't care how bad things get in the next year, I've got my mind made up already.
Even if he dies, I'll vote for him.

[subgenius]

Shoot, even if I die I'll vote for him.
Maybe this time he'll get a majority, too.
C'mon all you non-wealthy Republicans, follow our leader.

[peptoabysmal]

Quote:

Originally posted by crocodile deathroll
I stated in another post that if things in Iraq are unchanged or deteriorate further then Bush will be kicked out of office so hard he will need a spacesuit.

Unless he can rig the voting system as well as he did in Florida, which would be an extremely grim prospect for the US and the world.

CDR

My folks lived through the depression and a couple of world wars. I lived through Vietnam and Gray Davis. It just flat out amazes me that people are so impatient with a war that was won in less than a month and the peace keeping and stabilization efforts aren't even a year old. It took years to stabilize Japan and we dropped the biggest bomb that was ever used in a war on them.

[Mr Manifesto]

Quote:

Originally posted by corplinx
... I think I saw that interview while I was stuck in a hotel room in snowy Burlington MA back in 2000...

Oh, well then. That just goes to show it was a fair and balance interview instead of a Dorothy Dixer session.

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The thing that actually made me want to get up and vote however, was when Bush called the reporter an @sshole and then refused to apologize. Shallow as it is, that was when I decided he had the kind of resolve the leader of the free world thinks. As I asw Cheney, Powell, Rice, and others coming on board, it became a no-brainer. These are the people I wanted in charge when the proverbial excrement hit the metaphorical fan.

Any democrat who wants my vote is going to have to put together some sort of dream-cabinet to beat bush out for my vote. There is a big baton to pass here.

Did he actually address the issue when he called the reporter an @sshole?

[Lothian]

Quote:

Originally posted by Nie Trink Wasser
I didn't vote for him last time. I didn't vote at all on purpose.

It is not easy going through life not being able to spell 'X'

[Mr Manifesto]

Quote:

Originally posted by subgenius
Shoot, even if I die I'll vote for him.

And probably will, given the Republican party's previous track record with electoral process.

[crocodile deathroll]

Quote:

Originally posted by peptoabysmal


My folks lived through the depression and a couple of world wars. I lived through Vietnam and Gray Davis. It just flat out amazes me that people are so impatient with a war that was won in less than a month and the peace keeping and stabilization efforts aren't even a year old. It took years to stabilize Japan and we dropped the biggest bomb that was ever used in a war on them.

Unfortunately the Iraq war is not over and it is five months and still counting as Gihadi resistance just as I expected is pouring over porous borders to continue a guerilla war campaign with the US. What a expensive quagmire Bush has gotten his country into!. And I expect worse to come.

Yes the falling of those statues are looking a lot closer to the beginning of the war than the end.

CDR.

[Jon_in_london]

Theres not much of anything in your mind, NTW.