Help please -- debunking Zeitgeist movie

Gurdur · 10th September 2007, 07:12 PM

I'm asking for help on debunking specific claims made in the movie Zeitgeist, which can be watched online here.

Specific claims I would be grateful to see debunked in detail are:

- the claim that the FBI still regards 6 of the hijackers being alive

- the supposedly "cut" columns. I am very aware that any actual demolition effort is out there in fairytale land; but in one scene they show a column supposedly cut in the same way as a controlled demolition.

- and if you know the film any other claims you wish to mention and can provide the debunking thereof.

I have not watched the whole of the movie yet, so I wil come back with further requests later. And yes, the whole movie is crap. I know that already. No need to tell me that.

Thanks in advance for all detailed and sourced debunking.

Good Lt · 10th September 2007, 07:26 PM

Here's a looong JREF thread dissecting it:

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.p...ight=Zeitgeist

Search through the links on this post to get ya started:

http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php...14&postcount=2

Jonnyclueless · 10th September 2007, 07:36 PM

I am just dumbfounded that people still make the live hijackers claim. I mean yes they are all out there, but that is just one of the more silly ones to me.

As for that particular claim, ask them to show you a source for that that is dated after 2001. And remember, source does not mean the CT tabloid that used the source, but the actual source they use.

Unfortunately I was unable to watch the film becaus I have a policy that it a film starts with more than 1 minute of sinister music while displaying quotes, I cannot continue to watch. If however they make a version where they remove such parts, I would love to see it.

10th September 2007, 07:12 PM	#1
Gurdur Person Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 4,875	Help please -- debunking Zeitgeist movie I'm asking for help on debunking specific claims made in the movie Zeitgeist, which can be watched online here. Specific claims I would be grateful to see debunked in detail are: - the claim that the FBI still regards 6 of the hijackers being alive - the supposedly "cut" columns. I am very aware that any actual demolition effort is out there in fairytale land; but in one scene they show a column supposedly cut in the same way as a controlled demolition. - and if you know the film any other claims you wish to mention and can provide the debunking thereof. I have not watched the whole of the movie yet, so I wil come back with further requests later. And yes, the whole movie is crap. I know that already. No need to tell me that. Thanks in advance for all detailed and sourced debunking.
Gurdur Person Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 4,875

10th September 2007, 07:26 PM	#2
Good Lt Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Satellite of Love Posts: 1,487	Here's a looong JREF thread dissecting it: http://forums.randi.org/showthread.p...ight=Zeitgeist Search through the links on this post to get ya started: http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php...14&postcount=2

10th September 2007, 07:36 PM	#3
Jonnyclueless Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,360	I am just dumbfounded that people still make the live hijackers claim. I mean yes they are all out there, but that is just one of the more silly ones to me. As for that particular claim, ask them to show you a source for that that is dated after 2001. And remember, source does not mean the CT tabloid that used the source, but the actual source they use. Unfortunately I was unable to watch the film becaus I have a policy that it a film starts with more than 1 minute of sinister music while displaying quotes, I cannot continue to watch. If however they make a version where they remove such parts, I would love to see it.