Degree in creation science, minor in "alternative" physics

krazyKemist · 11th September 2007, 04:01 PM

(First posted on pharyngula)

Seems some guy founded a school delivering degrees of "Creation Science". Yes, maybe he's not alone, but he offers much more interesting things besides:

Quote:

* Creational Healing: We develop a new kind of healing method.
* Electrical Engineering: We develop and use a new kind of semiconductor technology mainly based on silicon, copper and oxygen, and we search for new energy systems, etc.
* Minor-System-Technology: This environmentally sustainable technology uses a minimum of resources to solve problems perfectly.
* Polycultural Engineering: We develop a new kind of agriculture based on balanced ecological systems.
* Spacecraft Engineering: We develop minor probes and new kinds of drives using principles of alternative physics. The far distant goal is to develop and to realize a generation spaceship for a God-fearing community.
* Theological Cosmology: Research of the deeper knowledge in astronomy and exobiology.
* Mathematics: Research of the deeper knowledge in holistic mathematics.
* Theology: Practicing and teaching of down-to-earth Christianity based on the Holy Bible.

http://http://www.peterlay.info/pli.htm

"alternative" physics... Is that like "alternative" medicine ? Prayer-propulsion spacecraft ? Spacecraft that you will use only if you can't prove they can fly ? Or considerably worse, land (as opposed to crash) ?

What about "holistic" mathematics ?

the Kemist

KingMerv00 · 11th September 2007, 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by krazyKemist

"alternative" physics... Is that like "alternative" medicine ?

Funny...on a Physics test it is just called it a wrong answer.

JoeEllison · 11th September 2007, 04:11 PM

Major in "Idiot Pseudoscience", minor in "Moronic Nonsense"?

ponderingturtle · 11th September 2007, 05:13 PM

I just wonder what will happen when there alternative physics space craft hits the celestial spheres.

This will end badly.

Gord_in_Toronto · 11th September 2007, 07:00 PM

I checked the website but could not find a heading for FACULTY. I wonder why?

a_unique_person · 11th September 2007, 10:37 PM

What if I laugh at god?

UnrepentantSinner · 11th September 2007, 11:27 PM

This has a Creation Science Fair buzz to it. My skeptisense is tingling.

quixotecoyote · 11th September 2007, 11:32 PM

$2 pool for hoax/no hoax?

UnrepentantSinner · 11th September 2007, 11:35 PM

Originally Posted by quixotecoyote

$2 pool for hoax/no hoax?

I'm in for hoax.

Normal Dude · 12th September 2007, 02:23 AM

But Christian missionaries already have spacecraft!

Math Maniac · 12th September 2007, 05:48 AM

Originally Posted by krazyKemist

(First posted on pharyngula)

What about "holistic" mathematics ?

It's where you consider the "complete" number and it's associated psychological, spiritual, and emotional needs instead of only the mathematical operation/s at hand.

Or something like that, anyway.

wilsontown · 12th September 2007, 06:01 AM

Just in case folk were unaware of it, here's a link to David Colquhoun's website, where he discusses BSc degrees in homeopathy at British universities:

http://www.dcscience.net/improbable.html#nature1

Jimbo07 · 12th September 2007, 06:24 AM

Quote:

* Spacecraft Engineering: We develop minor probes and new kinds of drives using principles of alternative physics. The far distant goal is to develop and to realize a generation spaceship for a God-fearing community.

Maybe they'll use astrology for navigation...

Ysidro · 12th September 2007, 07:42 AM

Personally, I support the effort to great a generation ship for God-fearing peoples. Once they're gone I might be able to get some peace and quiet.

UnrepentantSinner · 12th September 2007, 07:54 AM

Originally Posted by Ysidro

Personally, I support the effort to great a generation ship for God-fearing peoples. Once they're gone I might be able to get some peace and quiet.

Oh don't worry. Once we get rid of all the Christians the Muslims will be in the majority and life will be wonderful for us atheists.

krazyKemist · 12th September 2007, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by Math Maniac

It's where you consider the "complete" number and it's associated psychological, spiritual, and emotional needs instead of only the mathematical operation/s at hand.

Or something like that, anyway.

Yeah, maybe it's a sort of numerology, like, you know, the sign of the beast being 666... I'm sure I saw a nutty website discussing all sorts of numbers relating to the bible, I can't find it back...

But I'm sure holistic mathematics considers imaginary numbers to be the work of the Devil.

the Kemist

Enlighten · 12th September 2007, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by Gord_in_Toronto

I checked the website but could not find a heading for FACULTY. I wonder why?

Yes, I was wondering what the educational background is for the person (people?) behind this "school."

krazyKemist · 12th September 2007, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by UnrepentantSinner

Oh don't worry. Once we get rid of all the Christians the Muslims will be in the majority and life will be wonderful for us atheists.

Nah... I don't think so. If the christians get their generation ship, the muslims (which also have their own brand of creationists) will want to have one too. They wont let space be entirely colonized by imperialist christians, will they ?

the Kemist

Ysidro · 14th September 2007, 06:05 AM

Originally Posted by UnrepentantSinner

Oh don't worry. Once we get rid of all the Christians the Muslims will be in the majority and life will be wonderful for us atheists.

What? They don't fear God too? We'll just build them a ship of their own.

jimbob · 15th September 2007, 12:21 PM

Am I the only person thinking about "the Second Spaceship"

11th September 2007, 04:01 PM	#1
krazyKemist Critical Thinker Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Deep inside an extinct volcano Posts: 432	Degree in creation science, minor in "alternative" physics (First posted on pharyngula) Seems some guy founded a school delivering degrees of "Creation Science". Yes, maybe he's not alone, but he offers much more interesting things besides: Quote: * Creational Healing: We develop a new kind of healing method. * Electrical Engineering: We develop and use a new kind of semiconductor technology mainly based on silicon, copper and oxygen, and we search for new energy systems, etc. * Minor-System-Technology: This environmentally sustainable technology uses a minimum of resources to solve problems perfectly. * Polycultural Engineering: We develop a new kind of agriculture based on balanced ecological systems. * Spacecraft Engineering: We develop minor probes and new kinds of drives using principles of alternative physics. The far distant goal is to develop and to realize a generation spaceship for a God-fearing community. * Theological Cosmology: Research of the deeper knowledge in astronomy and exobiology. * Mathematics: Research of the deeper knowledge in holistic mathematics. * Theology: Practicing and teaching of down-to-earth Christianity based on the Holy Bible. http://http://www.peterlay.info/pli.htm "alternative" physics... Is that like "alternative" medicine ? Prayer-propulsion spacecraft ? Spacecraft that you will use only if you can't prove they can fly ? Or considerably worse, land (as opposed to crash) ? What about "holistic" mathematics ? the Kemist
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KingMerv00 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Philadelphia, PA...USA Posts: 14,482	Originally Posted by krazyKemist "alternative" physics... Is that like "alternative" medicine ? Funny...on a Physics test it is just called it a wrong answer.
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11th September 2007, 11:27 PM	#7
UnrepentantSinner A post by Alan Smithee Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: USAian is not a word Posts: 26,358	This has a Creation Science Fair buzz to it. My skeptisense is tingling.
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11th September 2007, 11:35 PM	#9
UnrepentantSinner A post by Alan Smithee Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: USAian is not a word Posts: 26,358	Originally Posted by quixotecoyote $2 pool for hoax/no hoax? I'm in for hoax.
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12th September 2007, 05:48 AM	#11
Math Maniac Thinker Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Vermont Posts: 161	Originally Posted by krazyKemist (First posted on pharyngula) What about "holistic" mathematics ? It's where you consider the "complete" number and it's associated psychological, spiritual, and emotional needs instead of only the mathematical operation/s at hand. Or something like that, anyway.

12th September 2007, 06:01 AM	#12
wilsontown Thinker Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 127	Just in case folk were unaware of it, here's a link to David Colquhoun's website, where he discusses BSc degrees in homeopathy at British universities: http://www.dcscience.net/improbable.html#nature1
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12th September 2007, 06:24 AM	#13
Jimbo07 Illuminator Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,418	Quote: * Spacecraft Engineering: We develop minor probes and new kinds of drives using principles of alternative physics. The far distant goal is to develop and to realize a generation spaceship for a God-fearing community. Maybe they'll use astrology for navigation...
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12th September 2007, 07:54 AM	#15
UnrepentantSinner A post by Alan Smithee Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: USAian is not a word Posts: 26,358	Originally Posted by Ysidro Personally, I support the effort to great a generation ship for God-fearing peoples. Once they're gone I might be able to get some peace and quiet. Oh don't worry. Once we get rid of all the Christians the Muslims will be in the majority and life will be wonderful for us atheists.
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12th September 2007, 09:17 AM	#16
krazyKemist Critical Thinker Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Deep inside an extinct volcano Posts: 432	Originally Posted by Math Maniac It's where you consider the "complete" number and it's associated psychological, spiritual, and emotional needs instead of only the mathematical operation/s at hand. Or something like that, anyway. Yeah, maybe it's a sort of numerology, like, you know, the sign of the beast being 666... I'm sure I saw a nutty website discussing all sorts of numbers relating to the bible, I can't find it back... But I'm sure holistic mathematics considers imaginary numbers to be the work of the Devil. the Kemist
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12th September 2007, 09:46 AM	#17
Enlighten Scholar Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 112	Originally Posted by Gord_in_Toronto I checked the website but could not find a heading for FACULTY. I wonder why? Yes, I was wondering what the educational background is for the person (people?) behind this "school."
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12th September 2007, 03:03 PM	#18
krazyKemist Critical Thinker Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Deep inside an extinct volcano Posts: 432	Originally Posted by UnrepentantSinner Oh don't worry. Once we get rid of all the Christians the Muslims will be in the majority and life will be wonderful for us atheists. Nah... I don't think so. If the christians get their generation ship, the muslims (which also have their own brand of creationists) will want to have one too. They wont let space be entirely colonized by imperialist christians, will they ? the Kemist
	__________________ But there's no sense crying over every mistake. You just keep on trying till you run out of cake. And the Science gets done. -- GLaDOS

14th September 2007, 06:05 AM	#19
Ysidro I'm watching you Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 5,334	Originally Posted by UnrepentantSinner Oh don't worry. Once we get rid of all the Christians the Muslims will be in the majority and life will be wonderful for us atheists. What? They don't fear God too? We'll just build them a ship of their own.
Ysidro I'm watching you Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 5,334

15th September 2007, 12:21 PM	#20
jimbob Uncritical "thinker" Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Derbyshire, UK Posts: 5,166	Am I the only person thinking about "the Second Spaceship"