Sylvia Browne: Conspiracy Theorist!

bjb · 13th September 2007, 04:37 PM

Sylvia Browne has a new book Secret Societies...and How They Affect Our Lives Today . Apparently, she is reaching out to a different type of idiot:

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Lisa Simpson · 13th September 2007, 04:39 PM

I hope that book shows up at the used book store soon. I love reading about secret societies.

dudalb · 13th September 2007, 04:46 PM

I see that one of Sylvia's main sources for her research is one of her "Spirit Guides". That will impress the hell out of serious Historians.
It's no surprise that Browne is taking this route;you might have noticied that various forms of Woo tend often clump together.
Or,more then likely,Sylvia saw how much dough Dan Brown made with "The Da Vinci Crap..excuse me Code" and decided to cash in.

NickUK · 13th September 2007, 06:10 PM

I hope Francine (her spirit guide) is getting a decent cut of the profits.

maccy · 13th September 2007, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by Sylvia Browne

I really talk about the Skull and Crossbones

Yarr! Splice the mainbrace and rig the election me hearties!

Stellafane · 13th September 2007, 07:09 PM

Another reason to hate her (not that any more were needed, the saturation point has already been reached).

bjb · 13th September 2007, 08:50 PM

I also noticed the Skull and Crossbones mistake. She should have said 'Skull and Bones', which makes me wonder if she bothers to read her own books.

fitzgibbon · 13th September 2007, 09:08 PM

No no no.....that wasn't a mistake. She was alluding to the Knights Templar and by extrapolation, the Masons. And we know that the Masons control everything, don't we?

Drs_Res · 14th September 2007, 03:05 AM

Wrong. The Stone Cutters do.

CFLarsen · 14th September 2007, 04:02 AM

"Build it, and they will come...."

maccy · 14th September 2007, 07:01 AM

Originally Posted by bjb

I also noticed the Skull and Crossbones mistake. She should have said 'Skull and Bones', which makes me wonder if she bothers to read her own books.

Actually, it's only a small mistake as it is the same symbol.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_and_crossbones
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_and_Bones
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jolly_Roger

But, for most people, I should think that the first thing to spring into your head at the mention of skull and crossbones would be pirates and not frat boys in coffins.

Indeed, even though I knew about the "Skull and Bones", I had to look them up to find out that their symbol was basically the same as the Jolly Roger. I suspect if people made a big thing of it, it might look too much like kids playing at being a secret society.

Here's some merchandise you might want to get, to show your allegiance to the NWO:

Belt Buckle
A watch, and another one.
A license plate.
And, best of all, a t-shirt for you up-and-coming disinfo shill baby.

I first became mildly interested in these crazy theories by playing the Illuminati game, which led me in turn to the Illuminatus! books and the The Illuminoids by Neal Wilgus. I don't remember any mention of the Skull and Bones society in any of this. It seems to have been a theory that has emerged since Bush was elected in 2000 - and which was given a boost when Kerry became the candidate for the 2004 election.

Swing Dangler · 14th September 2007, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by maccy

I don't remember any mention of the Skull and Bones society in any of this. It seems to have been a theory that has emerged since Bush was elected in 2000 - and which was given a boost when Kerry became the candidate for the 2004 election.

Perhaps the most definitive work on the Order comes from Anthony Sutton.
An author whose mainstream career was shattered by his devotion towards uncovering the truth. In 1968, his Western Technology and Soviet Economic Development was published by The Hoover Institute at Stanford University. Sutton showed how the Soviet state's technological and manufacturing base, which was then engaged in supplying the North Vietnamese the armaments and supplies to kill and wound American soldiers, was built by US firms and mostly paid for by the US taxpayers. From their largest steel and iron plant, to automobile manufacturing equipment, to precision ball-bearings and computers, basically the majority of the Soviet's large industrial enterprises had been built with the United States help or technical assistance.

AMERICA'S SECRET ESTABLISHMENT : An Introduction to the Order of Skull and Bones by Antony Sutton was a Research Fellow at Stanford from 1968-73. He is a former economics professor at California State University-Los Angeles. He was born in London in 1925 and educated at universities in England and America. He has written 16 books, of which some titles include, "Gold Versus Paper", "Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler", "Energy, the Created Crisis", "Wars and Revolutions", and a massive three-volume compendium entitled "Western Technology and Soviet Economic Development 1917 - 1965". Several years ago Sutton received an 8-inch batch of documents containing the membership lists of "Skull and Bones", from Yale
University, probably the most powerful secret society in America, the equivalent of a modern branch of the Illuminati. Sutton explains the Hegelian - Masonic motto, "order out of chaos", the act of creating wars to create a
need for peace, detailing WHY American bankers like George Bush's father, Prescott Sheldon Bush, and other big Wall Street businessmen financed the build-up of communist Russia and Nazi Germany; Sutton also illustrates
the establishing of the United Nations as a precedent to a one-world government known as the New World Order.

dudalb · 14th September 2007, 11:51 AM

Why are CT's so in love with the word Hegalian.
Sutton is a little like David Irving:Early in his career he wrote some valuable books on the Soviet Economy but later on went totally over into Woo Woo Land.

Juustin · 14th September 2007, 01:07 PM

The most important question regarding secret societies was answered long ago:

Who makes Steve Guttenburg a star? We do.

dudalb · 14th September 2007, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by Juustin

The most important question regarding secret societies was answered long ago:

Who makes Steve Guttenburg a star? We do.

Who robs cave fish of their sight?
Who rigs every Oscar night?
We do! We do.

Lisa Simpson · 14th September 2007, 01:19 PM

I bought a copy today from my library's used book area. It came out Tuesday and on Friday, it's already in the used book bin. That must mean it's GOOD.

Right?

Bell · 14th September 2007, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by Lisa Simpson

I bought a copy today from my library's used book area. It came out Tuesday and on Friday, it's already in the used book bin. That must mean it's GOOD.

Right?

Didn't it say useless instead of used?

DarkMagician · 14th September 2007, 01:31 PM

Slyvia Browne believing in crap like Secret Societies, well you coulda just knocked me over with a feather.

JimBenArm · 14th September 2007, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by DarkMagician

Slyvia Browne believing in crap like Secret Societies, well you coulda just knocked me over with a feather.

Water still wet: Details at 11:00...

maccy · 14th September 2007, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by DarkMagician

Slyvia Browne ~~believing~~seeing the profit in crap like Secret Societies, well you coulda just knocked me over with a feather.

Corrected.

maccy · 14th September 2007, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by JimBenArm

Water still wet: Details at 11:00...

And on the same bulletin: bear confirmed as Catholic; Pope observes rule 10 in wooded area.

Lisa Simpson · 14th September 2007, 03:06 PM

Prologue - Francine told me a bunch of stuff about secret societies and about the world to come back in the 70's, but I was too busy and didn't do anything with it.

Chapter 1 - A bunch of powerful, famous people belong to Skull and Bones, therefore, it's bad.

Chapter 2 - A bunch of powerful, famous people belong to the Council on Foreign Relations, therefore, it's bad.

Chapter 3 - A bunch of powerful, famous people belong to the Trilateral Commission, therefore, it's bad.

dudalb · 14th September 2007, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by Lisa Simpson

Prologue - Francine told me a bunch of stuff about secret societies and about the world to come back in the 70's, but I was too busy and didn't do anything with it.

Chapter 1 - A bunch of powerful, famous people belong to Skull and Bones, therefore, it's bad.

Chapter 2 - A bunch of powerful, famous people belong to the Council on Foreign Relations, therefore, it's bad.

Chapter 3 - A bunch of powerful, famous people belong to the Trilateral Commission, therefore, it's bad.

So Francine told her a lot of stuff in the 70's that the John Birch Society and other 60's CTers had been saying all through the Sixties? Nice.

Orphia Nay · 14th September 2007, 08:05 PM

Woo gravitates to woo.

I first heard about 9/11 CTs in 2005 at a woo forum where I was a member (I'd been invited to join before I became a vocal skeptic). The woos there swallow almost any outlandish claim they come across.

The common denominator to all claims: they make a believer feel special.

Originally Posted by Lisa Simpson

I bought a copy today from my library's used book area. It came out Tuesday and on Friday, it's already in the used book bin. That must mean it's GOOD.

Right?

13th September 2007, 04:39 PM	#2
Lisa Simpson THE Lisa Simpson Administrator Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: 123 Fake Street Posts: 16,180	I hope that book shows up at the used book store soon. I love reading about secret societies.
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13th September 2007, 06:10 PM	#4
NickUK Critical Thinker Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 496	I hope Francine (her spirit guide) is getting a decent cut of the profits.
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13th September 2007, 06:13 PM	#5
maccy Dalek-Reptilian Hybrid Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Leeds, UK Posts: 2,081	Originally Posted by Sylvia Browne I really talk about the Skull and Crossbones Yarr! Splice the mainbrace and rig the election me hearties!
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13th September 2007, 07:09 PM	#6
Stellafane Village Idiot. Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Green Mountains Posts: 3,847	Another reason to hate her (not that any more were needed, the saturation point has already been reached).
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13th September 2007, 08:50 PM	#7
bjb Graduate Poster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,079	I also noticed the Skull and Crossbones mistake. She should have said 'Skull and Bones', which makes me wonder if she bothers to read her own books.
bjb Graduate Poster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,079

13th September 2007, 04:46 PM	#3
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 17,490	I see that one of Sylvia's main sources for her research is one of her "Spirit Guides". That will impress the hell out of serious Historians. It's no surprise that Browne is taking this route;you might have noticied that various forms of Woo tend often clump together. Or,more then likely,Sylvia saw how much dough Dan Brown made with "The Da Vinci Crap..excuse me Code" and decided to cash in.

13th September 2007, 09:08 PM	#8
fitzgibbon Graduate Poster Join Date: May 2007 Location: Just west of the centre of the universe Posts: 1,209	No no no.....that wasn't a mistake. She was alluding to the Knights Templar and by extrapolation, the Masons. And we know that the Masons control everything, don't we?

14th September 2007, 03:05 AM	#9
Drs_Res NWO Acorn Hoarder Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: N 34 3 8 / W 118 14 33 Posts: 1,214	Wrong. The Stone Cutters do.

14th September 2007, 04:02 AM	#10
CFLarsen Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 42,804	"Build it, and they will come...."
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14th September 2007, 07:01 AM	#11
maccy Dalek-Reptilian Hybrid Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Leeds, UK Posts: 2,081	Originally Posted by bjb I also noticed the Skull and Crossbones mistake. She should have said 'Skull and Bones', which makes me wonder if she bothers to read her own books. Actually, it's only a small mistake as it is the same symbol. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_and_crossbones http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_and_Bones http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jolly_Roger But, for most people, I should think that the first thing to spring into your head at the mention of skull and crossbones would be pirates and not frat boys in coffins. Indeed, even though I knew about the "Skull and Bones", I had to look them up to find out that their symbol was basically the same as the Jolly Roger. I suspect if people made a big thing of it, it might look too much like kids playing at being a secret society. Here's some merchandise you might want to get, to show your allegiance to the NWO: Belt Buckle A watch, and another one. A license plate. And, best of all, a t-shirt for you up-and-coming disinfo shill baby. I first became mildly interested in these crazy theories by playing the Illuminati game, which led me in turn to the Illuminatus! books and the The Illuminoids by Neal Wilgus. I don't remember any mention of the Skull and Bones society in any of this. It seems to have been a theory that has emerged since Bush was elected in 2000 - and which was given a boost when Kerry became the candidate for the 2004 election.
	__________________ "To the rational mind, nothing is inexplicable, only unexplained." Doctor Who: Robots of Death by Chris Boucher. Also, Stop Sylvia Browne; and all the 9/11 Conspiracy links you could ever need.

14th September 2007, 11:45 AM	#12
Swing Dangler Graduate Poster Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: United States Posts: 1,049	Originally Posted by maccy I don't remember any mention of the Skull and Bones society in any of this. It seems to have been a theory that has emerged since Bush was elected in 2000 - and which was given a boost when Kerry became the candidate for the 2004 election. Perhaps the most definitive work on the Order comes from Anthony Sutton. An author whose mainstream career was shattered by his devotion towards uncovering the truth. In 1968, his Western Technology and Soviet Economic Development was published by The Hoover Institute at Stanford University. Sutton showed how the Soviet state's technological and manufacturing base, which was then engaged in supplying the North Vietnamese the armaments and supplies to kill and wound American soldiers, was built by US firms and mostly paid for by the US taxpayers. From their largest steel and iron plant, to automobile manufacturing equipment, to precision ball-bearings and computers, basically the majority of the Soviet's large industrial enterprises had been built with the United States help or technical assistance. AMERICA'S SECRET ESTABLISHMENT : An Introduction to the Order of Skull and Bones by Antony Sutton was a Research Fellow at Stanford from 1968-73. He is a former economics professor at California State University-Los Angeles. He was born in London in 1925 and educated at universities in England and America. He has written 16 books, of which some titles include, "Gold Versus Paper", "Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler", "Energy, the Created Crisis", "Wars and Revolutions", and a massive three-volume compendium entitled "Western Technology and Soviet Economic Development 1917 - 1965". Several years ago Sutton received an 8-inch batch of documents containing the membership lists of "Skull and Bones", from Yale University, probably the most powerful secret society in America, the equivalent of a modern branch of the Illuminati. Sutton explains the Hegelian - Masonic motto, "order out of chaos", the act of creating wars to create a need for peace, detailing WHY American bankers like George Bush's father, Prescott Sheldon Bush, and other big Wall Street businessmen financed the build-up of communist Russia and Nazi Germany; Sutton also illustrates the establishing of the United Nations as a precedent to a one-world government known as the New World Order.
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14th September 2007, 11:51 AM	#13
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 17,490	Why are CT's so in love with the word Hegalian. Sutton is a little like David Irving:Early in his career he wrote some valuable books on the Soviet Economy but later on went totally over into Woo Woo Land.

14th September 2007, 01:07 PM	#14
Juustin Muse Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Schenectady, NY Posts: 501	The most important question regarding secret societies was answered long ago: Who makes Steve Guttenburg a star? We do.
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14th September 2007, 01:11 PM	#15
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 17,490	Originally Posted by Juustin The most important question regarding secret societies was answered long ago: Who makes Steve Guttenburg a star? We do. Who robs cave fish of their sight? Who rigs every Oscar night? We do! We do.

14th September 2007, 01:19 PM	#16
Lisa Simpson THE Lisa Simpson Administrator Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: 123 Fake Street Posts: 16,180	I bought a copy today from my library's used book area. It came out Tuesday and on Friday, it's already in the used book bin. That must mean it's GOOD. Right?
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14th September 2007, 01:25 PM	#17
Bell beautiful freak Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 9,522	Originally Posted by Lisa Simpson I bought a copy today from my library's used book area. It came out Tuesday and on Friday, it's already in the used book bin. That must mean it's GOOD. Right? Didn't it say useless instead of used?
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14th September 2007, 01:31 PM	#18
DarkMagician Graduate Poster Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Des Moines, IA Posts: 1,539	Slyvia Browne believing in crap like Secret Societies, well you coulda just knocked me over with a feather.
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14th September 2007, 02:01 PM	#19
JimBenArm Sir Barbarella of Corndogia Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 9,381	Originally Posted by DarkMagician Slyvia Browne believing in crap like Secret Societies, well you coulda just knocked me over with a feather. Water still wet: Details at 11:00...
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14th September 2007, 03:03 PM	#20
maccy Dalek-Reptilian Hybrid Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Leeds, UK Posts: 2,081	Originally Posted by DarkMagician Slyvia Browne ~~believing~~seeing the profit in crap like Secret Societies, well you coulda just knocked me over with a feather. Corrected.
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14th September 2007, 03:06 PM	#21
maccy Dalek-Reptilian Hybrid Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Leeds, UK Posts: 2,081	Originally Posted by JimBenArm Water still wet: Details at 11:00... And on the same bulletin: bear confirmed as Catholic; Pope observes rule 10 in wooded area.
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14th September 2007, 03:48 PM	#23
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 17,490	Originally Posted by Lisa Simpson Prologue - Francine told me a bunch of stuff about secret societies and about the world to come back in the 70's, but I was too busy and didn't do anything with it. Chapter 1 - A bunch of powerful, famous people belong to Skull and Bones, therefore, it's bad. Chapter 2 - A bunch of powerful, famous people belong to the Council on Foreign Relations, therefore, it's bad. Chapter 3 - A bunch of powerful, famous people belong to the Trilateral Commission, therefore, it's bad. So Francine told her a lot of stuff in the 70's that the John Birch Society and other 60's CTers had been saying all through the Sixties? Nice.

14th September 2007, 08:05 PM	#24
Orphia Nay Penultimate Amazing Tagger Join Date: May 2005 Location: In Command of the Revolution's Gorilla Group II of Monkeys, Camels and Penguins (all named 'Spod'). Posts: 17,610	Woo gravitates to woo. I first heard about 9/11 CTs in 2005 at a woo forum where I was a member (I'd been invited to join before I became a vocal skeptic). The woos there swallow almost any outlandish claim they come across. The common denominator to all claims: they make a believer feel special. Originally Posted by Lisa Simpson I bought a copy today from my library's used book area. It came out Tuesday and on Friday, it's already in the used book bin. That must mean it's GOOD. Right?
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