State Senator Ernie Chambers sues God

Denial · 17th September 2007, 06:33 PM

In order to make a point about frivilous lawsuits, State Senator Ernie Chambers sues god.

http://www.ketv.com/news/14133442/detail.html

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20823832

Quote:

Chambers lawsuit, which was filed on Friday in Douglas County Court, seeks a permanent injunction ordering God to cease certain harmful activities and the making of terroristic threats.

The lawsuit admits God goes by all sorts of alias, names, titles and designations and it also recognizes the fact that the defendant is “Omnipresent”.

In the lawsuit Chambers says he’s tried to contact God numerous times, “Plaintiff, despite reasonable efforts to effectuate personal service upon Defendant (“Come out, come out, wherever you are”) has been unable to do so.”

I found this to be pretty hilarious. Nice to see a politician with a sense of humour.

hgc · 17th September 2007, 06:50 PM

This doesn't have to be at all frivolous. If he would only name as parties to the suit some of God's self-professed representatives on Earth, then he'd have flesh-and-blood defendants to target. Pat Robertson has been passing on a lot of the vengeful diety's threats lately. He'd make a prime subject for judgement -- of the civil courts that is!

Zep · 17th September 2007, 07:53 PM

Just curious...

Who is God's legal representative in the US courts?

Denial · 17th September 2007, 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by Zep

Just curious...

Who is God's legal representative in the US courts?

Just a wild guess...Robert Anderholt?

Zep · 17th September 2007, 08:23 PM

Ah... Who?

quixotecoyote · 17th September 2007, 09:33 PM

I've heard a dozen cases like this. IIRC they all get thrown out because the plaintiff cannot show the court has jurisdiction or because the defendant cannot be served.

Damien Evans · 18th September 2007, 12:46 AM

This reminds me of this movie: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_Who_Sued_God

Zep · 18th September 2007, 01:07 AM

Originally Posted by quixotecoyote

I've heard a dozen cases like this. IIRC they all get thrown out because the plaintiff cannot show the court has jurisdiction or because the defendant cannot be served.

Surely, with god being omnipresent, he can be served? Just hold up the papers and wave them about...

UnrepentantSinner · 18th September 2007, 01:20 AM

Originally Posted by Zep

Just curious...

Who is God's legal representative in the US courts?

Doubless some law school grad from Regent University.

rjh01 · 18th September 2007, 03:13 AM

Originally Posted by Damien Evans

This reminds me of this movie: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_Who_Sued_God

Great movie. In the movie the defendants are the church. Very embarrassing. Do they admit there is no god? Papers can be served on them.

quixotecoyote · 18th September 2007, 03:16 AM

Originally Posted by Zep

Surely, with god being omnipresent, he can be served? Just hold up the papers and wave them about...

Ahh yes, but how would you verify it?

Brown · 18th September 2007, 04:06 AM

So many people claim to be representatives for the Almighty.

And yet, when it comes to receiving lawsuit papers, these folks sound a lot like Peter: "No, we don't hang around together. No, we're not associated. Look, I don't know him, all right??"

Beerina · 18th September 2007, 07:01 AM

Originally Posted by Zep

Just curious...

Who is God's legal representative in the US courts?

For a court to have legitimacy, it needs two things:

1) Legal jurisdiction

2) The ability to enforce its decisions

Against an omnipotent entity, #2 falls woefully short. Not just physically, but probably philosophically, as well. How legitimate would a lawsuit by amoebae in your lab petri dish be? Moreover, as has been argued in various short stories over the years, God on the witness stand cannot be trusted given the threats of punishment for perjury are vapid.

TragicMonkey · 18th September 2007, 07:40 AM

If God is omnipresent, and lacks the necessary documentation, he is clearly in this country illegally and should be seized, interrogated, and either deported or disappeared to Guantanamo. Terrorists seem to drop his name a lot, which surely makes him a person of interest.

Locknar · 18th September 2007, 08:03 AM

I for one, hope George Burns shows up

Denial · 18th September 2007, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by Zep

Ah... Who?

Congressman Robert "The Ten Commandments represent the very cornerstone of Western civilization and the basis of our legal system here in America" Anderholt from Alabama.

geni · 18th September 2007, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by TragicMonkey

If God is omnipresent, and lacks the necessary documentation, he is clearly in this country illegally and should be seized, interrogated, and either deported or disappeared to Guantanamo. Terrorists seem to drop his name a lot, which surely makes him a person of interest.

Ah no. He entered the country prior to 1776 so no problem. He may also run for President. Might have tax issues mind.

quixotecoyote · 18th September 2007, 08:55 PM

I think someone has started a thread about this in every sub-forum now.

Achán hiNidráne · 18th September 2007, 09:13 PM

Can we make this a class action lawsuit?

strathmeyer · 21st September 2007, 06:35 PM

How could you guys miss God' response?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070921/.../odd_suing_god

OldTigerCub · 24th September 2007, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by Locknar

I for one, hope George Burns shows up

Now THAT would be a miracle I'd like to see!

(gotta admit, I miss George Burns)

17th September 2007, 06:33 PM	#1
Denial Scholar Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Christgrinding Avenue Posts: 93	State Senator Ernie Chambers sues God In order to make a point about frivilous lawsuits, State Senator Ernie Chambers sues god. http://www.ketv.com/news/14133442/detail.html http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20823832 Quote: Chambers lawsuit, which was filed on Friday in Douglas County Court, seeks a permanent injunction ordering God to cease certain harmful activities and the making of terroristic threats. The lawsuit admits God goes by all sorts of alias, names, titles and designations and it also recognizes the fact that the defendant is “Omnipresent”. In the lawsuit Chambers says he’s tried to contact God numerous times, “Plaintiff, despite reasonable efforts to effectuate personal service upon Defendant (“Come out, come out, wherever you are”) has been unable to do so.” I found this to be pretty hilarious. Nice to see a politician with a sense of humour.
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17th September 2007, 07:53 PM	#3
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17th September 2007, 08:23 PM	#5
Zep Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 26,985	Ah... Who?
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17th September 2007, 09:33 PM	#6
quixotecoyote Howling to glory I go Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 9,621	I've heard a dozen cases like this. IIRC they all get thrown out because the plaintiff cannot show the court has jurisdiction or because the defendant cannot be served.
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18th September 2007, 12:46 AM	#7
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17th September 2007, 06:50 PM	#2
hgc Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 12,988	This doesn't have to be at all frivolous. If he would only name as parties to the suit some of God's self-professed representatives on Earth, then he'd have flesh-and-blood defendants to target. Pat Robertson has been passing on a lot of the vengeful diety's threats lately. He'd make a prime subject for judgement -- of the civil courts that is!
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17th September 2007, 08:00 PM	#4
Denial Scholar Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Christgrinding Avenue Posts: 93	Originally Posted by Zep Just curious... Who is God's legal representative in the US courts? Just a wild guess...Robert Anderholt?

18th September 2007, 01:07 AM	#8
Zep Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 26,985	Originally Posted by quixotecoyote I've heard a dozen cases like this. IIRC they all get thrown out because the plaintiff cannot show the court has jurisdiction or because the defendant cannot be served. Surely, with god being omnipresent, he can be served? Just hold up the papers and wave them about...
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18th September 2007, 01:20 AM	#9
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18th September 2007, 03:13 AM	#10
rjh01 Gentleman of leisure Tagger Join Date: May 2005 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 17,172	Originally Posted by Damien Evans This reminds me of this movie: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_Who_Sued_God Great movie. In the movie the defendants are the church. Very embarrassing. Do they admit there is no god? Papers can be served on them.
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18th September 2007, 03:16 AM	#11
quixotecoyote Howling to glory I go Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 9,621	Originally Posted by Zep Surely, with god being omnipresent, he can be served? Just hold up the papers and wave them about... Ahh yes, but how would you verify it?
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18th September 2007, 04:06 AM	#12
Brown Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Twin Cities, Canada Posts: 12,145	So many people claim to be representatives for the Almighty. And yet, when it comes to receiving lawsuit papers, these folks sound a lot like Peter: "No, we don't hang around together. No, we're not associated. Look, I don't know him, all right??"
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18th September 2007, 07:01 AM	#13
Beerina Sarcastic Conqueror of Notions Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: A floating island above the clouds Posts: 23,835	Originally Posted by Zep Just curious... Who is God's legal representative in the US courts? For a court to have legitimacy, it needs two things: 1) Legal jurisdiction 2) The ability to enforce its decisions Against an omnipotent entity, #2 falls woefully short. Not just physically, but probably philosophically, as well. How legitimate would a lawsuit by amoebae in your lab petri dish be? Moreover, as has been argued in various short stories over the years, God on the witness stand cannot be trusted given the threats of punishment for perjury are vapid.
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18th September 2007, 07:40 AM	#14
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18th September 2007, 08:03 AM	#15
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18th September 2007, 01:39 PM	#16
Denial Scholar Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Christgrinding Avenue Posts: 93	Originally Posted by Zep Ah... Who? Congressman Robert "The Ten Commandments represent the very cornerstone of Western civilization and the basis of our legal system here in America" Anderholt from Alabama.

18th September 2007, 02:02 PM	#17
geni Anti-homeopathy illuminati member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: UK Posts: 26,559	Originally Posted by TragicMonkey If God is omnipresent, and lacks the necessary documentation, he is clearly in this country illegally and should be seized, interrogated, and either deported or disappeared to Guantanamo. Terrorists seem to drop his name a lot, which surely makes him a person of interest. Ah no. He entered the country prior to 1776 so no problem. He may also run for President. Might have tax issues mind.

18th September 2007, 08:55 PM	#18
quixotecoyote Howling to glory I go Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 9,621	I think someone has started a thread about this in every sub-forum now.
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18th September 2007, 09:13 PM	#19
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21st September 2007, 06:35 PM	#20
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24th September 2007, 06:00 PM	#21
OldTigerCub Striped Shapeshifting Reptoid Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Steeler Nation, Pa. Posts: 1,633	Originally Posted by Locknar I for one, hope George Burns shows up Now THAT would be a miracle I'd like to see! (gotta admit, I miss George Burns)
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