Questions About "Playing The Race Card?"

jman19999 · 19th September 2007, 09:26 AM

Guys,

As a Sociology major, I have great interest in the study of Race and Place in our society. I have often wondered and asked have race relations improved, gotten worse over time, or stayed about the same since the passage of the Civil Rights Act?

Why does it appear that Caucasians can not play the race card when faced with a social, economic, or political unrest compared to other ethnic groups? I believe that in order to combat racism, prejudice, and discrimination, civil rights leaders must work to stop racism across all sectors of society. But why is it that African-Americans are more often to be able to successfully play the race card compared to other minority groups?

The recent tasering of a University of Florida student showed and raised questions concerning did the police use excessive force on him and act appropriately? It made front page news in print, TV, and Internet sites all over the world. But could you even begin to imagine the increased outrage if Andrew Meyer was African-American over this incident?! Why aren't well known leaders like Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson involved in the protest of this? Does it require that the victim must be African-American in order for them to get involved in such action?

If so, this is WRONG and must not be overlooked. If excessive police brutality did exist in this case with the tasering, it is important for race NOT to be a relevant issue. Discriminatory acts are discriminatory acts. By not noticing members of a White community, who may be victims as well, doesn't that lead to reverse discrimination?

There has to be equal treatment, fairness, and justice for all who have suffered some form of discrimination or racism if such is shown to exist. Otherwise, people will continue to suffer discriminating abuse. What do you think? How can society combat this problem?

Jeff

Darth Rotor · 19th September 2007, 10:55 AM

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Questions About "Playing The Race Card?"

As I understand M:TG, playing the Race card of Half Elf is best countered by playing a Race Card of Ogre Magi.

Originally Posted by jman19999

Guys,

As a Sociology major, I have great interest in the study of Race and Place in our society. I have often wondered and asked have race relations improved, gotten worse over time, or stayed about the same since the passage of the Civil Rights Act?

Depends. Some things have gotten better, but there is still work to be done if Dr King's vision is to be achievable.

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Why does it appear that Caucasians can not play the race card when faced with a social, economic, or political unrest compared to other ethnic groups? I believe that in order to combat racism, prejudice, and discrimination, civil rights leaders must work to stop racism across all sectors of society. But why is it that African-Americans are more often to be able to successfully play the race card compared to other minority groups?

I think it has been done, successfully, is some of the challenges to the affirmative action quotas at some universities, but can't recall the disposition of each case.

Quote:

The recent tasering of a University of Florida student showed and raised questions concerning did the police use excessive force on him and act appropriately? It made front page news in print, TV, and Internet sites all over the world. But could you even begin to imagine the increased outrage if Andrew Meyer was African-American over this incident?! Why aren't well known leaders like Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson involved in the protest of this? Does it require that the victim must be African-American in order for them to get involved in such action?

Was there a racial motivation for the tasering? Were both of the cops non Anglo? I am not sure how your concern registers with that incident.

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If so, this is WRONG and must not be overlooked. If excessive police brutality did exist in this case with the tasering, it is important for race NOT to be a relevant issue. Discriminatory acts are discriminatory acts. By not noticing members of a White community, who may be victims as well, doesn't that lead to reverse discrimination?

There was an old saw that "reverse discriminiation isn't reverse, it is simply discrimination." Not sure how Al Sharpton discriminates against that student by not leaping to his defense. He's a rather busy man, with his pet projects to spend his time and efforts on. Becase I don't protest against the government in Burma/Myanmar, am I necessarily discriminating against Burmese dissidents?

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There has to be equal treatment, fairness, and justice for all who have suffered some form of discrimination or racism if such is shown to exist. Otherwise, people will continue to suffer discriminating abuse. What do you think? How can society combat this problem?

With open hearts. Now, who is society?

Shelby Steele wrote a commentary on race relations called "The Content of Our Character" that addressed some of what you discuss above. The point I recall him making was the use of presumed innocence as a rhetorical weapon by the person playing the race card. The interaction is then unidirectional, rather than a two way interpersonal interaction. (Transactional analysis for fifty, Alex.

) The intent is to put the other on the defensive.

If you have not read that book, I recommend it. Not too long, thoughtful, and while two decades gone in currency, worth a look.

(From the publisher's mini blurb)

Steele illuminates the origins of the current conflict in race relations--the increase in anger, mistrust, and even violence between black and whites. With candor and persuasive argument, he shows us how both black and white Americans have become trapped into seeing color before character, and how social policies designed to lessen racial inequities have instead increased them. The Content of Our Character is neither "liberal" nor "conservative," but an honest, courageous look at America's most enduring and wrenching social dilemma.

An afternoon's read.

DR

Loss Leader · 19th September 2007, 11:09 AM

I'll tell you what I'm hacked off about - using card-game metaphors for important social issues. Why must we talk about "playing the race card"? Why can't we say "Building the race hotel" or "Putting 'race' down on a triple word score"? I, for one, would just once like to hear of someone "purchasing all of the moons around the race planet" or "constructing the race mousetrap." And why even limit it to board games? We could right now be "defeating the race boss on the race level" or "taking the race ramp to raceville." The options are endless, really.

EeneyMinnieMoe · 19th September 2007, 01:21 PM

For what it's worth, a sociology professor I know always says there is no such thing as "reverse racism" and that minorities can't be racist because racism implies a degree of power and cultural hegemony. She says it's possible for them to be prejudiced, yes, but not racist.

Not that I disagree but I have to ask her sometime what she thinks of minorities who hate each other, then. If racists must always have power over their victims, what are Latinos in the United States who don't like blacks? What were the Hindus to Muslims and vice versa in colonized India? Or immigrant groups to the United States in the various immigration waves who fought each other?

WildCat · 19th September 2007, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by jman19999

Why does it appear that Caucasians can not play the race card when faced with a social, economic, or political unrest compared to other ethnic groups?

Sure they can! Here's Chicago's Mayor Daley playing the race card to shame the opposition to a children's museum on what is considered to be sacrosanct land by most Chicagoans:

Quote:

"We built Millennium Park. We built museums. You mean you don't want children from the city in Grant Park? Why? Are they black? Are they white? Are they Hispanic? Are they poor? We have children in Grant Park all the time. This is the park for the entire city. What do you mean no one wants children down there? Why not? Wouldn't you want children there?" the mayor said.

And it was brilliant! Hardly any stories about how the museum's lawyer is (by pure coincidence!) a close relative of Daley.

Darth Rotor · 19th September 2007, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by Loss Leader

I'll tell you what I'm hacked off about - using card-game metaphors for important social issues. Why must we talk about "playing the race card"? Why can't we say "Building the race hotel" or "Putting 'race' down on a triple word score"? I, for one, would just once like to hear of someone "purchasing all of the moons around the race planet" or "constructing the race mousetrap." And why even limit it to board games? We could right now be "defeating the race boss on the race level" or "taking the race ramp to raceville." The options are endless, really.

Why do you hate professional poker players?

DR

GroundStrength · 21st September 2007, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by EeneyMinnieMoe

For what it's worth, a sociology professor I know always says there is no such thing as "reverse racism" and that minorities can't be racist because racism implies a degree of power and cultural hegemony. She says it's possible for them to be prejudiced, yes, but not racist.

That is the silliest thing I have ever read.

Billdave2 · 21st September 2007, 12:30 PM

In a similar vein, why is profiling bad, yet we hear no outcry over the FBI profilers who talk about serial killers being "white, between the ages of 18 and 50, middle class, etc"? How is this type of profiling different from the rest?

LordoftheLeftHand · 21st September 2007, 12:44 PM

A little off topic but I seem to remember once seeing an "Academia" based card game. If I remember right it had an actual "race card" in the deck!

LLH

timhau · 21st September 2007, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by GroundStrength

That is the silliest thing I have ever read.

Well, it is Sociology. (If it was insane, it'd be Education.)

Fnord · 21st September 2007, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by jman19999

I have often wondered and asked have race relations improved, gotten worse over time, or stayed about the same since the passage of the Civil Rights Act?

IMHO: About the same, although people have gotten better at concealing their racism when it is to their advantage to do so.

Originally Posted by jman19999

Why does it appear that Caucasians can not play the race card when faced with a social, economic, or political unrest compared to other ethnic groups?

IMHO: Because of the myths that (1) only Caucasians can be racist, (2) non-Caucasians are all victims, and (3) a Caucasian who is a victim of race-based discrimination somehow "asked for it."

Originally Posted by jman19999

But why is it that African-Americans are more often to be able to successfully play the race card compared to other minority groups?

IMHO: Because African-Americans seem to hold society for ransom with the threat of civil unrest if their demands for "Justice" are not met.

Originally Posted by jman19999

The recent tasering of a University of Florida student showed and raised questions concerning did the police use excessive force on him and act appropriately?

IMHO: The security people used excessive force and acted inappropriately.

Originally Posted by jman19999

It made front page news in print, TV, and Internet sites all over the world. But could you even begin to imagine the increased outrage if Andrew Meyer was African-American over this incident?!

IMHO: Does the name "Rodney King" ring a bell?

Originally Posted by jman19999

Why aren't well known leaders like Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson involved in the protest of this? Does it require that the victim must be African-American in order for them to get involved in such action?

IMHO: You've answered your own question. The victim must be African-American in order for Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson to get involved. Although in the case of the Jena Six, who together beat up one Caucasian, A.S. and J.J. have declared them to be the victims, and they ignore the person who was beaten.

Originally Posted by jman19999

By not noticing members of a White community, who may be victims as well, doesn't that lead to reverse discrimination?

IMHO: There is no such thing as "reverse" discrimination. There is only discrimination itself, the basis of which can be age, color, education (or lack of same), ethnicity, gender, geography, height, political affiliation (or lack of same), religion (or lack of same), sexual orientation, weight, or anything else that can be used to separate "Us" from "Not Us."

Originally Posted by jman19999

There has to be equal treatment, fairness, and justice for all who have suffered some form of discrimination or racism if such is shown to exist. Otherwise, people will continue to suffer discriminating abuse. What do you think? How can society combat this problem?

IMHO: (1) Eliminate "Affirmative Action" in education, employment, promotion, and housing, and (2) convert every government-run bureaucracy and government-contracted business to a meritocracy. This way, if you are both willing and able to go to school, get a job, get promoted, and own or rent your home, then you should be allowed to do so. (3) Eliminate any consideration for education, employment, promotion, and housing on the basis of age, color, education (or lack of same), ethnicity, gender, geography, height, political affiliation (or lack of same), religion (or lack of same), sexual orientation, weight, or anything else that it not based on a person's willingness and ability.

baron · 22nd September 2007, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by EeneyMinnieMoe

For what it's worth, a sociology professor I know always says there is no such thing as "reverse racism" and that minorities can't be racist because racism implies a degree of power and cultural hegemony.

So if a Klan member goes on holiday to Africa he ceases to be racist until he returns. I never knew that.

GroundStrength · 24th September 2007, 07:03 AM

Excellent post Fnord.

slingblade · 26th September 2007, 12:46 AM

Originally Posted by timhau

Well, it is Sociology. (If it was insane, it'd be Education.)

I love you. Truly, I do.

And my response to the OP is going to be quite uncharacteristic:

jman, there are quite a few texts on the subject. You might want to do more reading within your discipline, rather than asking a group of largely non-sociologists.

I took a very interesting sociology course that focused on this very subject. There's a LOT out there to read. A banquet of food for thought. Ask your prof. Or just google a few of your terms, like reverse racism, hegemony, system of dominance, institutional racism, systemic racism, etc.

19th September 2007, 09:26 AM	#1
jman19999 Scholar Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 117	Questions About "Playing The Race Card?" Guys, As a Sociology major, I have great interest in the study of Race and Place in our society. I have often wondered and asked have race relations improved, gotten worse over time, or stayed about the same since the passage of the Civil Rights Act? Why does it appear that Caucasians can not play the race card when faced with a social, economic, or political unrest compared to other ethnic groups? I believe that in order to combat racism, prejudice, and discrimination, civil rights leaders must work to stop racism across all sectors of society. But why is it that African-Americans are more often to be able to successfully play the race card compared to other minority groups? The recent tasering of a University of Florida student showed and raised questions concerning did the police use excessive force on him and act appropriately? It made front page news in print, TV, and Internet sites all over the world. But could you even begin to imagine the increased outrage if Andrew Meyer was African-American over this incident?! Why aren't well known leaders like Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson involved in the protest of this? Does it require that the victim must be African-American in order for them to get involved in such action? If so, this is WRONG and must not be overlooked. If excessive police brutality did exist in this case with the tasering, it is important for race NOT to be a relevant issue. Discriminatory acts are discriminatory acts. By not noticing members of a White community, who may be victims as well, doesn't that lead to reverse discrimination? There has to be equal treatment, fairness, and justice for all who have suffered some form of discrimination or racism if such is shown to exist. Otherwise, people will continue to suffer discriminating abuse. What do you think? How can society combat this problem? Jeff
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19th September 2007, 10:55 AM	#2
Darth Rotor Salted Sith Cynic Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Rat cheer Posts: 34,279	Quote: Questions About "Playing The Race Card?" As I understand M:TG, playing the Race card of Half Elf is best countered by playing a Race Card of Ogre Magi. Originally Posted by jman19999 Guys, As a Sociology major, I have great interest in the study of Race and Place in our society. I have often wondered and asked have race relations improved, gotten worse over time, or stayed about the same since the passage of the Civil Rights Act? Depends. Some things have gotten better, but there is still work to be done if Dr King's vision is to be achievable. Quote: Why does it appear that Caucasians can not play the race card when faced with a social, economic, or political unrest compared to other ethnic groups? I believe that in order to combat racism, prejudice, and discrimination, civil rights leaders must work to stop racism across all sectors of society. But why is it that African-Americans are more often to be able to successfully play the race card compared to other minority groups? I think it has been done, successfully, is some of the challenges to the affirmative action quotas at some universities, but can't recall the disposition of each case. Quote: The recent tasering of a University of Florida student showed and raised questions concerning did the police use excessive force on him and act appropriately? It made front page news in print, TV, and Internet sites all over the world. But could you even begin to imagine the increased outrage if Andrew Meyer was African-American over this incident?! Why aren't well known leaders like Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson involved in the protest of this? Does it require that the victim must be African-American in order for them to get involved in such action? Was there a racial motivation for the tasering? Were both of the cops non Anglo? I am not sure how your concern registers with that incident. Quote: If so, this is WRONG and must not be overlooked. If excessive police brutality did exist in this case with the tasering, it is important for race NOT to be a relevant issue. Discriminatory acts are discriminatory acts. By not noticing members of a White community, who may be victims as well, doesn't that lead to reverse discrimination? There was an old saw that "reverse discriminiation isn't reverse, it is simply discrimination." Not sure how Al Sharpton discriminates against that student by not leaping to his defense. He's a rather busy man, with his pet projects to spend his time and efforts on. Becase I don't protest against the government in Burma/Myanmar, am I necessarily discriminating against Burmese dissidents? Quote: There has to be equal treatment, fairness, and justice for all who have suffered some form of discrimination or racism if such is shown to exist. Otherwise, people will continue to suffer discriminating abuse. What do you think? How can society combat this problem? With open hearts. Now, who is society? Shelby Steele wrote a commentary on race relations called "The Content of Our Character" that addressed some of what you discuss above. The point I recall him making was the use of presumed innocence as a rhetorical weapon by the person playing the race card. The interaction is then unidirectional, rather than a two way interpersonal interaction. (Transactional analysis for fifty, Alex. ) The intent is to put the other on the defensive. If you have not read that book, I recommend it. Not too long, thoughtful, and while two decades gone in currency, worth a look. (From the publisher's mini blurb) Steele illuminates the origins of the current conflict in race relations--the increase in anger, mistrust, and even violence between black and whites. With candor and persuasive argument, he shows us how both black and white Americans have become trapped into seeing color before character, and how social policies designed to lessen racial inequities have instead increased them. The Content of Our Character is neither "liberal" nor "conservative," but an honest, courageous look at America's most enduring and wrenching social dilemma. An afternoon's read. DR
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19th September 2007, 11:09 AM	#3
Loss Leader Opinionated Jerk Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New York Posts: 11,885	I'll tell you what I'm hacked off about - using card-game metaphors for important social issues. Why must we talk about "playing the race card"? Why can't we say "Building the race hotel" or "Putting 'race' down on a triple word score"? I, for one, would just once like to hear of someone "purchasing all of the moons around the race planet" or "constructing the race mousetrap." And why even limit it to board games? We could right now be "defeating the race boss on the race level" or "taking the race ramp to raceville." The options are endless, really.
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19th September 2007, 01:21 PM	#4
EeneyMinnieMoe Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,660	For what it's worth, a sociology professor I know always says there is no such thing as "reverse racism" and that minorities can't be racist because racism implies a degree of power and cultural hegemony. She says it's possible for them to be prejudiced, yes, but not racist. Not that I disagree but I have to ask her sometime what she thinks of minorities who hate each other, then. If racists must always have power over their victims, what are Latinos in the United States who don't like blacks? What were the Hindus to Muslims and vice versa in colonized India? Or immigrant groups to the United States in the various immigration waves who fought each other?
	Last edited by EeneyMinnieMoe; 19th September 2007 at 01:23 PM.

19th September 2007, 04:59 PM	#6
Darth Rotor Salted Sith Cynic Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Rat cheer Posts: 34,279	Originally Posted by Loss Leader I'll tell you what I'm hacked off about - using card-game metaphors for important social issues. Why must we talk about "playing the race card"? Why can't we say "Building the race hotel" or "Putting 'race' down on a triple word score"? I, for one, would just once like to hear of someone "purchasing all of the moons around the race planet" or "constructing the race mousetrap." And why even limit it to board games? We could right now be "defeating the race boss on the race level" or "taking the race ramp to raceville." The options are endless, really. Why do you hate professional poker players? DR
	__________________ Helicopters don't so much fly as beat the air into submission. "Jesus wept, but did He laugh?"--F.H. Buckley____"There is one thing that was too great for God to show us when He walked upon our earth ... His mirth." --Chesterton__"If the barbarian in us is excised, so is our humanity."--D'rok__ "I only use my gun whenever kindness fails."-- Robert Earl Keen__"Sturgeon spares none.". -- The Marquis

19th September 2007, 04:50 PM	#5
WildCat NWO Master Conspirator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Albany Park, Chicago Posts: 49,109	Originally Posted by jman19999 Why does it appear that Caucasians can not play the race card when faced with a social, economic, or political unrest compared to other ethnic groups? Sure they can! Here's Chicago's Mayor Daley playing the race card to shame the opposition to a children's museum on what is considered to be sacrosanct land by most Chicagoans: Quote: "We built Millennium Park. We built museums. You mean you don't want children from the city in Grant Park? Why? Are they black? Are they white? Are they Hispanic? Are they poor? We have children in Grant Park all the time. This is the park for the entire city. What do you mean no one wants children down there? Why not? Wouldn't you want children there?" the mayor said. And it was brilliant! Hardly any stories about how the museum's lawyer is (by pure coincidence!) a close relative of Daley.

21st September 2007, 09:46 AM	#7
GroundStrength Scourge of the Attentionwhore Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Houston Baby! Posts: 649	Originally Posted by EeneyMinnieMoe For what it's worth, a sociology professor I know always says there is no such thing as "reverse racism" and that minorities can't be racist because racism implies a degree of power and cultural hegemony. She says it's possible for them to be prejudiced, yes, but not racist. That is the silliest thing I have ever read.

21st September 2007, 12:30 PM	#8
Billdave2 Muse Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Anderson, South Carolina Posts: 591	In a similar vein, why is profiling bad, yet we hear no outcry over the FBI profilers who talk about serial killers being "white, between the ages of 18 and 50, middle class, etc"? How is this type of profiling different from the rest?

21st September 2007, 12:44 PM	#9
LordoftheLeftHand Dominus Sinistrae Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,186	A little off topic but I seem to remember once seeing an "Academia" based card game. If I remember right it had an actual "race card" in the deck! LLH
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21st September 2007, 01:09 PM	#10
timhau NWO Litter Technician Join Date: May 2004 Location: East of Sweeden Posts: 9,693	Originally Posted by GroundStrength That is the silliest thing I have ever read. Well, it is Sociology. (If it was insane, it'd be Education.)
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21st September 2007, 01:32 PM	#11
Fnord Metasyntactic Variable Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 6,633	Originally Posted by jman19999 I have often wondered and asked have race relations improved, gotten worse over time, or stayed about the same since the passage of the Civil Rights Act? IMHO: About the same, although people have gotten better at concealing their racism when it is to their advantage to do so. Originally Posted by jman19999 Why does it appear that Caucasians can not play the race card when faced with a social, economic, or political unrest compared to other ethnic groups? IMHO: Because of the myths that (1) only Caucasians can be racist, (2) non-Caucasians are all victims, and (3) a Caucasian who is a victim of race-based discrimination somehow "asked for it." Originally Posted by jman19999 But why is it that African-Americans are more often to be able to successfully play the race card compared to other minority groups? IMHO: Because African-Americans seem to hold society for ransom with the threat of civil unrest if their demands for "Justice" are not met. Originally Posted by jman19999 The recent tasering of a University of Florida student showed and raised questions concerning did the police use excessive force on him and act appropriately? IMHO: The security people used excessive force and acted inappropriately. Originally Posted by jman19999 It made front page news in print, TV, and Internet sites all over the world. But could you even begin to imagine the increased outrage if Andrew Meyer was African-American over this incident?! IMHO: Does the name "Rodney King" ring a bell? Originally Posted by jman19999 Why aren't well known leaders like Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson involved in the protest of this? Does it require that the victim must be African-American in order for them to get involved in such action? IMHO: You've answered your own question. The victim must be African-American in order for Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson to get involved. Although in the case of the Jena Six, who together beat up one Caucasian, A.S. and J.J. have declared them to be the victims, and they ignore the person who was beaten. Originally Posted by jman19999 By not noticing members of a White community, who may be victims as well, doesn't that lead to reverse discrimination? IMHO: There is no such thing as "reverse" discrimination. There is only discrimination itself, the basis of which can be age, color, education (or lack of same), ethnicity, gender, geography, height, political affiliation (or lack of same), religion (or lack of same), sexual orientation, weight, or anything else that can be used to separate "Us" from "Not Us." Originally Posted by jman19999 There has to be equal treatment, fairness, and justice for all who have suffered some form of discrimination or racism if such is shown to exist. Otherwise, people will continue to suffer discriminating abuse. What do you think? How can society combat this problem? IMHO: (1) Eliminate "Affirmative Action" in education, employment, promotion, and housing, and (2) convert every government-run bureaucracy and government-contracted business to a meritocracy. This way, if you are both willing and able to go to school, get a job, get promoted, and own or rent your home, then you should be allowed to do so. (3) Eliminate any consideration for education, employment, promotion, and housing on the basis of age, color, education (or lack of same), ethnicity, gender, geography, height, political affiliation (or lack of same), religion (or lack of same), sexual orientation, weight, or anything else that it not based on a person's willingness and ability.
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22nd September 2007, 02:53 PM	#12
baron Graduate Poster Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Hill Posts: 1,910	Originally Posted by EeneyMinnieMoe For what it's worth, a sociology professor I know always says there is no such thing as "reverse racism" and that minorities can't be racist because racism implies a degree of power and cultural hegemony. So if a Klan member goes on holiday to Africa he ceases to be racist until he returns. I never knew that.
	__________________

24th September 2007, 07:03 AM	#13
GroundStrength Scourge of the Attentionwhore Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Houston Baby! Posts: 649	Excellent post Fnord.

26th September 2007, 12:46 AM	#14
slingblade Guest Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 23,642	Originally Posted by timhau Well, it is Sociology. (If it was insane, it'd be Education.) I love you. Truly, I do. And my response to the OP is going to be quite uncharacteristic: jman, there are quite a few texts on the subject. You might want to do more reading within your discipline, rather than asking a group of largely non-sociologists. I took a very interesting sociology course that focused on this very subject. There's a LOT out there to read. A banquet of food for thought. Ask your prof. Or just google a few of your terms, like reverse racism, hegemony, system of dominance, institutional racism, systemic racism, etc.
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