Poll: Iraq- Al Qaeda link

arcticpenguin · 6th September 2003, 06:19 AM

http://www.startribune.com/stories/1762/4082747.html

Quote:

WASHINGTON - Nearly seven in 10 Americans believe it is likely that ousted Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein was personally involved in the Sept. 11 attacks, says a poll out almost two years after the terrorists' strike against this country.

Sixty-nine percent in a Washington Post poll published Saturday said they believe it is likely the Iraqi leader was personally involved in the attacks carried out by al-Qaida. A majority of Democrats, Republicans and independents believe it's likely Saddam was involved.

The belief in the connection persists even though there has been no proof of a link between the two.

Proof? There has been no credible evidence whatsoever!

shemp · 6th September 2003, 06:26 AM

So? There's no credible evidence of the existence of a deity, but 90% of Americans believe in one anyway.

Mr Manifesto · 6th September 2003, 06:28 AM

The Americans have been endoctrinated. There is little opposition and they are fed a steady diet from religious leaders and the government.

Edit: Now links to relevant post.

shemp · 6th September 2003, 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr Manifesto
The Americans have been endoctrinated. There is little opposition and they are fed a steady diet from religious leaders and the government.

(scroll down until you find the matching quote)

What means "endoctrinated"? Indoctrinated through the rear end?

Mr Manifesto · 6th September 2003, 06:46 AM

I told you to scroll down until you found the matching quote! Or are you asking the person who coined the term?

arcticpenguin · 6th September 2003, 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr Manifesto

(scroll down until you find the matching quote)

linking to a specific post in a thread

Mr Manifesto · 6th September 2003, 07:10 AM

Thank you AP and Xouper. I'll PM Hal and Linda to double your pay from JREF.

Mr Manifesto · 6th September 2003, 07:28 AM

Besides this ill thought-out post, there are these quotes to enjoy as well. Especially the last one. (Complied by Molly Ivins on Working for Change

"Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction." -- Dick Cheney, Aug. 26, 2002

"Right now, Iraq is expanding and improving facilities that were used for the production of biological weapons." -- George W. Bush, Sept. 12, 2002

"The Iraqi regime possesses and produces chemical and biological weapons. It is seeking nuclear weapons." -- Bush Oct. 7, 2002.

"We've also discovered through intelligence that Iraq has a growing fleet of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that would be used to disperse chemical or biological weapons across broad areas. We're concerned that Iraq is exploring ways of using the UAVs for missions targeting the United States." -- Bush, Oct. 7, 2002

"The evidence indicates that Iraq is reconstituting its nuclear weapons program. Saddam Hussein has held numerous meetings with Iraqi nuclear scientists, a group he calls his 'nuclear mujahideen' -- his nuclear holy warriors. Satellite photographs reveal that Iraq is rebuilding facilities at sites that have been part of its nuclear program in the past." -- Bush, Oct. 7, 2002

"We know for a fact there are weapons there." -- Ari Fleischer, Jan. 9, 2003

"Our intelligence officials estimate that Saddam Hussein had the materials to produce as much as 500 tons of Sarin, mustard and VX nerve agent." -- Bush, Jan. 28, 2003

"We know that Saddam Hussein is determined to keep his weapons of mass destruction, is determined to make more." -- Colin Powell, Feb. 5, 2003

"We have sources that tell us that Saddam Hussein recently authorized Iraqi field commanders to use chemical weapons -- the very weapons the dictator tells us he does not have." -- Bush, Feb. 8, 2003

"Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised." -- Bush, March 17, 2003

"Well, there is no question that we have evidence and information that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction, biological and chemical particularly." -- Fleischer, March 21, 2003.

"There is no doubt that the regime of Saddam Hussein possesses weapons of mass destruction. As this operation continues, those weapons will be identified, found, along with the people who have produced them and who guard them." -- Gen. Tommy Franks, March 22, 2003.

"I have no doubt we're going to find big stores of weapons of mass destruction." -- Kenneth Adelman, Defense Policy Board, March 23, 2003

"We know where they are. They are in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad." -- Donald Rumsfeld, March 30, 2003

"We'll find them. It'll be a matter of time to do so." -- Bush, May 3, 2003.

"I never believed that we'd just tumble over weapons of mass destruction in that country." -- Rumsfeld, May 4, 2003.

"U.S. officials never expected that we were going to open garages and find weapons of mass destruction." -- Condoleezza Rice, May 12, 2003

"They may have had time to destroy them, and I don't know the answer." -- Rumsfeld, May 27, 2003

"We based our decisions on good, sound intelligence, and the -- our people are going to find out the truth. And the truth will say that this intelligence was good intelligence. There's no doubt in my mind." -- Bush, July 17, 2003

"And I said on my program, if, if the Americans go in and overthrow Saddam Hussein and it's clean, he had nothing, I will apologize to the nation, and I will not trust the Bush administration again." Bill O'Reilly-- March 18, 2003

6th September 2003, 06:19 AM	#1
arcticpenguin woo ban clan Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,717	Poll: Iraq- Al Qaeda link http://www.startribune.com/stories/1762/4082747.html Quote: WASHINGTON - Nearly seven in 10 Americans believe it is likely that ousted Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein was personally involved in the Sept. 11 attacks, says a poll out almost two years after the terrorists' strike against this country. Sixty-nine percent in a Washington Post poll published Saturday said they believe it is likely the Iraqi leader was personally involved in the attacks carried out by al-Qaida. A majority of Democrats, Republicans and independents believe it's likely Saddam was involved. The belief in the connection persists even though there has been no proof of a link between the two. Proof? There has been no credible evidence whatsoever!
	__________________ The power of accurate observation is frequently called cynicism by those who don't have it. - George Bernard Shaw

6th September 2003, 06:26 AM	#2
shemp Timothy, Timothy, where on earth did you go? Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: trapped in a cave-in with Joe Posts: 12,896	So? There's no credible evidence of the existence of a deity, but 90% of Americans believe in one anyway.
	__________________ Church on Sunday, sleep and nod Tryin' to duck the wrath of God Preacher's fillin' us with fright Tryin' to tell us what he thinks is right He really got to be some kind of nut (I can't use it!) Tryin' to make it real - compared to what?

6th September 2003, 06:30 AM	#4
shemp Timothy, Timothy, where on earth did you go? Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: trapped in a cave-in with Joe Posts: 12,896	Quote: Originally posted by Mr Manifesto The Americans have been endoctrinated. There is little opposition and they are fed a steady diet from religious leaders and the government. (scroll down until you find the matching quote) What means "endoctrinated"? Indoctrinated through the rear end?
	__________________ Church on Sunday, sleep and nod Tryin' to duck the wrath of God Preacher's fillin' us with fright Tryin' to tell us what he thinks is right He really got to be some kind of nut (I can't use it!) Tryin' to make it real - compared to what?

6th September 2003, 06:55 AM	#6
arcticpenguin woo ban clan Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,717	Quote: Originally posted by Mr Manifesto (scroll down until you find the matching quote) linking to a specific post in a thread
	__________________ The power of accurate observation is frequently called cynicism by those who don't have it. - George Bernard Shaw

6th September 2003, 06:28 AM	#3
Mr Manifesto Hierophant Walrus of the Secret Clique Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 4,824	The Americans have been endoctrinated. There is little opposition and they are fed a steady diet from religious leaders and the government. Edit: Now links to relevant post.

6th September 2003, 06:46 AM	#5
Mr Manifesto Hierophant Walrus of the Secret Clique Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 4,824	I told you to scroll down until you found the matching quote! Or are you asking the person who coined the term?

6th September 2003, 07:10 AM	#7
Mr Manifesto Hierophant Walrus of the Secret Clique Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 4,824	Thank you AP and Xouper. I'll PM Hal and Linda to double your pay from JREF.

6th September 2003, 07:28 AM	#8
Mr Manifesto Hierophant Walrus of the Secret Clique Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 4,824	Besides this ill thought-out post, there are these quotes to enjoy as well. Especially the last one. (Complied by Molly Ivins on Working for Change "Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction." -- Dick Cheney, Aug. 26, 2002 "Right now, Iraq is expanding and improving facilities that were used for the production of biological weapons." -- George W. Bush, Sept. 12, 2002 "The Iraqi regime possesses and produces chemical and biological weapons. It is seeking nuclear weapons." -- Bush Oct. 7, 2002. "We've also discovered through intelligence that Iraq has a growing fleet of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that would be used to disperse chemical or biological weapons across broad areas. We're concerned that Iraq is exploring ways of using the UAVs for missions targeting the United States." -- Bush, Oct. 7, 2002 "The evidence indicates that Iraq is reconstituting its nuclear weapons program. Saddam Hussein has held numerous meetings with Iraqi nuclear scientists, a group he calls his 'nuclear mujahideen' -- his nuclear holy warriors. Satellite photographs reveal that Iraq is rebuilding facilities at sites that have been part of its nuclear program in the past." -- Bush, Oct. 7, 2002 "We know for a fact there are weapons there." -- Ari Fleischer, Jan. 9, 2003 "Our intelligence officials estimate that Saddam Hussein had the materials to produce as much as 500 tons of Sarin, mustard and VX nerve agent." -- Bush, Jan. 28, 2003 "We know that Saddam Hussein is determined to keep his weapons of mass destruction, is determined to make more." -- Colin Powell, Feb. 5, 2003 "We have sources that tell us that Saddam Hussein recently authorized Iraqi field commanders to use chemical weapons -- the very weapons the dictator tells us he does not have." -- Bush, Feb. 8, 2003 "Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised." -- Bush, March 17, 2003 "Well, there is no question that we have evidence and information that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction, biological and chemical particularly." -- Fleischer, March 21, 2003. "There is no doubt that the regime of Saddam Hussein possesses weapons of mass destruction. As this operation continues, those weapons will be identified, found, along with the people who have produced them and who guard them." -- Gen. Tommy Franks, March 22, 2003. "I have no doubt we're going to find big stores of weapons of mass destruction." -- Kenneth Adelman, Defense Policy Board, March 23, 2003 "We know where they are. They are in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad." -- Donald Rumsfeld, March 30, 2003 "We'll find them. It'll be a matter of time to do so." -- Bush, May 3, 2003. "I never believed that we'd just tumble over weapons of mass destruction in that country." -- Rumsfeld, May 4, 2003. "U.S. officials never expected that we were going to open garages and find weapons of mass destruction." -- Condoleezza Rice, May 12, 2003 "They may have had time to destroy them, and I don't know the answer." -- Rumsfeld, May 27, 2003 "We based our decisions on good, sound intelligence, and the -- our people are going to find out the truth. And the truth will say that this intelligence was good intelligence. There's no doubt in my mind." -- Bush, July 17, 2003 "And I said on my program, if, if the Americans go in and overthrow Saddam Hussein and it's clean, he had nothing, I will apologize to the nation, and I will not trust the Bush administration again." Bill O'Reilly-- March 18, 2003