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Enturbulator Extraordinaire
Join Date: Apr 2005
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What past mystery would you solve?
This is an offshoot of the what past civilization thread.
Assumptions: You're the ultimate fly on the wall. You can go back in time as an observer to any place, anytime. You can't be seen or heard and will not affect anything. You can understand all spoken and written languages. What past mystery would you like to go back and resolve (at least for yourself) once and for all? Examples: How they really built Stonehenge/Pyramids. What really happened to Amelia Earhart. etc. Personally, I'd like to go back and see if there was really a Jesus and did he really do all those cool things. |
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I've always believed that cluelessness evolved as an adaptation to allow the truly appalling to live with themselves. - G. B. Trudeau A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it. - Kay, Men in Black. |
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Comfortably Numb
Join Date: Nov 2003
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Oooh, I would try to find out whether Richard the III really killed the princes in the tower...
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Penultimate Amazing
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: vuori
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I'd want to find out what Fermat's "truly remarkable proof" was.
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Graduate Poster
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Cambridgeshire, UK
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I'd like to know who put the bomp in the bomp-a-bomp-a-bomp....
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AKA TEEK
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Up Myself
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I'm into Erdnase at present for various reasons. So, that.
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Penultimate Amazing
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Twin Cities, Canada
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I've thought about this a great deal. I've even considered writing a science fiction story in which history "miners" resolve numerous historical disputes, often finding evidence in the present day that was overlooked. I still think about this story idea from time to time, but it always seems to adopt similarities to part of Clarke's "Childhood's End," so I have given up trying to write it.
Nevertheless, in thinking about this story, I thought that Jesus would be one of the most interesting historical figures to investigate. In the basic story, before the "miners" could "mine history" to solve ancient unsolved questions, they had to solve recent mysteries first. (Example: the "miners" found that OJ Simpson was guilty as sin, and were even able to trace his bloody clothes to a landfill, after which forensic testing proved their authenticity and their incriminating character.) Eventually the "miners" decide to inquire into the person of Jesus Christ. (The miners have already observed an earlier event, the assassination of Julius Caesar in Rome in 44 BCE, so they are satisfied that they ought to be able to find Jesus.) They decide that the crucifixion is the event that would be easiest to home in on in terms of both date and place (they wouldn't know the exact year, but they could check all crucifixions near Jerusalem around Passover for a range of years). Once they found Jesus on the cross, and identified him by name and nature of crime (which all four gospels say was posted on the cross in one form or another), they would be able to trace Jesus forward and backward in time, and observe everything he did. There's just one small problem: they can't find him. Or at least, they can't find anyone who is a very close match to what the gospels say. So what do they do? Do they give up? Do they investigate some of the poor condemned bastards who share some of Jesus's traits (such as being executed for sedition) but not others (such as a lack of scourging, or a missing crown of thorns, or an absence of thieves crucified on either side, or a failure to be stabbed by a spear, or ....)? Do they expand their search to include summertime crucifixions? What? |
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Klaatu: I'm impatient with stupidity. My people have learned to live without it. Mr. Harley: I'm afraid my people haven't. I am very sorry. I wish it were otherwise. -- The Day The Earth Stood Still, screenplay by Edmund H. North "Don't you get me wrong. I only want to know." -- Judas in Jesus Christ Superstar, lyrics by Tim Rice |
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Muse
Join Date: Feb 2007
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I would want to see what was around before the Big Bang.
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Muse
Join Date: May 2003
Location: In the Darkness on the edge of Town
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I've also thought long and hard about this idea. I often imagine I have an invisible time bubble that I can use to go to the past. As an archeologist, I can think of so many things I'd like to see or see resolved: like the first migrations into the Americas and the thereby the answer to the "Clovis first" question; is handedness a factor in stone tool manufacture and use; how do our interpretations of a site (any site) compare to what really happened there; what kind of information are we missing because we don't (yet) know to look for it?
But what I really want to know is: what the hell was on that lost 18 minutes of tape?! |
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Philosopher
Join Date: Feb 2006
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I'd like to be around to witness the beginning of life. However it happened, knowing with surety would be nice.
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Disco King Discombobulator
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Houston, Texas
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I'd go back to 3 months ago... when my wife was late bringing me lunch. She said she had car trouble. She also walked in with a new purse and no change from the money I gave to her to buy lunch. I just want to see if she really had car trouble.
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David O. Little -=The DoLittle 8-)=- America believes in education: the average professor earns more money in a year than a professional athlete earns in a whole week. - Evan Esar / No one can earn a million dollars honestly. - William Jennings Bryan (1860 - 1925) / If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you. - Don Marquis |
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President of Covert-Ops
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Not the Rat.
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Seeing as everyone else is going to answer the big, deep and important questions, I'm going to come from left field and say that I'd like to know who Jack the Ripper really was. And if I have time, the Zodiac killer.
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Graduate Poster
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Land of La
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Penultimate Amazing
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: USA
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Cuddly Like a Koala Bear
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Florida
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I'm still curious... where, exactly, is the beef?
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Biomechanoid
Director of IDIOCY (Region 13)
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Join Date: Jul 2005
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Oh that's an easy one. Arlo Guthry discovered that. To paraphrase, he got invited to Carter's inauguration and met Chip Carter who told Arlo that while Nixon was moving out, the Carter people discovered that Tricky Dick had a copy of "Alice's Restaurant" in his collection. In Arlo's own words....
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-Aberhaten did it - "Which gives us an answer to our question. What’s the worst thing that can happen in a pressure cooker?" Randall Monroe -Director of Independent Determining Inquisitor Of Crazy Yapping - Aberhaten's Apothegm™ - An Internet law that states that optimism is indistinguishable from sarcasm |
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Enturbulator Extraordinaire
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Right here!
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On a personal quest, I'd really like to go back and find out if Lisa really did like me in high school. A friend of hers told me this, at our 25th reunion, but I'm not quite sure I believe her. By that time Lisa had moved across the country, married, four kids and I hadn't seen her in many years so I wasn't about to call her up and ask like some stalker. I'd still like to know for sure and be able to point at my yearbook and say "That babe had the hots for me."
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I've always believed that cluelessness evolved as an adaptation to allow the truly appalling to live with themselves. - G. B. Trudeau A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it. - Kay, Men in Black. |
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Cuddly Like a Koala Bear
Join Date: Jul 2007
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Master Poster
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: St.Helens, UK
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I would like to see who shot JFK but I don't think it would be safe with all them bullets flying in every direction. How about seeing who planted the thermite or Armstrong, Collins and Aldrin at the Hanger 18 soundstage. I would follow Bigfoot after she was filmed as this could lead me to Atlantis. If I only had one opportunity it would be to use the time machine to locate Blackbeards treasure, arr.
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Up The Irons
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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I'd like to know who Jack The Ripper really was
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WHAT CAN THE HARVEST HOPE FOR, IF NOT THE CARE OF THE REAPER MAN? - Death "Racism is a disease in society. We're all equal. I don't care what their colour is, or religion. Just as long as they're human beings they're my buddies." - Mandawuy Yunupingu, lead singer of Yothu Yindi |
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Scholar
Join Date: Oct 2007
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I would love for them to solve the mystery of the brain and the psyche.
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List Management
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Under the rainbow
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I'd like to know what really happened to Ambrose Bierce or Judge Crater, or any of the myriad other "He walked across the street and disappeared, never to be seen again" people.
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The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also. - Mark Twain |
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Disco King Discombobulator
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Houston, Texas
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David O. Little -=The DoLittle 8-)=- America believes in education: the average professor earns more money in a year than a professional athlete earns in a whole week. - Evan Esar / No one can earn a million dollars honestly. - William Jennings Bryan (1860 - 1925) / If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you. - Don Marquis |
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Writer of Nothingnesses
Join Date: Dec 2006
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I'd like to witness the single, all-clarifying, traumatic and psyche-warping incident in her childhood that caused Snow White to shun polite society and live in a cave with seven midgets. (You know how to whistle, don't you? You just put your lips together and blow.)
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Illuminator
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 3,189
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Aron Kominski. Well, maybe it would be nice to know for sure, but this one is actually fairly solid.
The most interesting thing about old Jack is that he was the first modern serial killer, the first guy who lived in a city with a large enough supply of alcoholic prostitutes that he was able to get off the train and kill someone and get back to the station without being noticed. The man himself will never match the social phenomenon, which is pretty well documented as it is... |
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Critical Thinker
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Florida
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In no particular order, and trying not to be duplicative of the above:
1) Roanoke, especially "Croatoan"? Was the lost colony really adopted or enslaved by natives? 2) Who (on which side) fired the "shot heard 'round the world"? 3) What caused the extinction of the dinosaurs? (Meteor? Smoking?) 4) What was Stonehenge’s purpose? (Calendar?) 5) What caused the War of Troy? What stopped it? 6) Personal curiosity as to the attractiveness, social grace, and charisma of the various beauties of history and legend? Helen of Troy? Cleopatra (VII)? Aspasia of Miletus? Many others. 7) Shakespeare’s love life? Perhaps the only historical person’s private life I would truly be interested in knowing. PS – Wouldn’t our time bubble be destroyed as it approached the big bang singularity? Was there a “time” before the big bang to go back to? |
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List Management
Join Date: Mar 2007
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The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also. - Mark Twain |
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Smelling fishy
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Home is wherever I'm with you
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Who plugged up the toilet that flooded Atlantis.
I'm betting it was Frank. |
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Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Take his fish away and tell him he's lucky just to be alive, and he'll figure out how to catch another one for you to take tomorrow. "...untrustworthy obnoxious twerp." - CFLarsen |
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Muse
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Massachusetts, USA
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Who was Jack the Ripper was my first thought too. Stonehenge was next.
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Muse
Join Date: Apr 2006
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I'd love to see a living tyrannosaurus rex, what they really looked like, how they hunted. I'd also love to watch some Neanderthals, find out if they spoke, and what that sounded like, how they dressed (if they dressed), and how they hunted.
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Illuminator
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 4,444
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I'd want to find out how Jefferson broke his wrist, what caused his falling out with Maria Cosway, and what sort of relationship he had with Sally Hemings. You know, the important stuff...
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NWO Litter Technician
Join Date: May 2004
Location: East of Sweeden
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When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realised that the Lord, in his wisdom, doesn't work that way. I just stole one and asked Him to forgive me. - Emo Philips
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Banned
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: The Land of Pleasant Living
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Was there a world wide cataclysmic event that destroyed most of humanity?
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Adelaidean
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Australia, not that you'll read the "location" field.
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All those seem to be well and good but I would find out these:
Who took, and what happened to, the Beaumont Children. Who took, and what happened to, Joanne Ratcliffe and Kirste Gordon. Did Bevam Spencer von Einem really kill all those people he was suspected of killing and did "The Family" really exist. I'll let some of the other Aussies answer why I would look at these things... |
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Enturbulator Extraordinaire
Join Date: Apr 2005
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Not sure how I would find them but the first brave soul to eat oysters, I'm forever grateful.
"Grog, look at this funny flat rock! It's kind of slimy inside. I think I'll eat it." |
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I've always believed that cluelessness evolved as an adaptation to allow the truly appalling to live with themselves. - G. B. Trudeau A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it. - Kay, Men in Black. |
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Biomechanoid
Director of IDIOCY (Region 13)
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Ok, you take the oysters and I'll take the artichoke. Who wants the lobster or pomegrante?
And let's not forget the potato (how they Maya figured out how to make it non-toxic) or the banana (met the guys who domesticated it and why they bothered) or how they figured out just the right process for coffee, cocoa, olives or cassava. I'd just like to follow Emperor Norton I around for a while. Or Newton. Fond out just what kind of ass he really was. Did Sacco and Vanzeti really do it? Or Joe Hill? Who was Homer? |
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-Aberhaten did it - "Which gives us an answer to our question. What’s the worst thing that can happen in a pressure cooker?" Randall Monroe -Director of Independent Determining Inquisitor Of Crazy Yapping - Aberhaten's Apothegm™ - An Internet law that states that optimism is indistinguishable from sarcasm |
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New Blood
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Houston, TX
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What happened to the Amber Room.
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Gazerbeam's Protege
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: The Mended Drum
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I'd like to go back to last night and solve the mystery of where I put my car keys.
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Penultimate Amazing
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: vuori
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Damn it, Nobby. Some things man was not meant to know!
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Smelling fishy
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Home is wherever I'm with you
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Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Take his fish away and tell him he's lucky just to be alive, and he'll figure out how to catch another one for you to take tomorrow. "...untrustworthy obnoxious twerp." - CFLarsen |
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...but not JUST a LibraryLady
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Building a house in the common ground
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I too am a Richardian. I think it was Henry Tudor.
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What would Hüsker Dü? I am still not a political person, but I am proud that Richard’s and my name is on a court case that can help reinforce the love, the commitment, the fairness, and the family that so many people, black or white, young or old, gay or straight, seek in life. I support the freedom to marry for all. That’s what Loving, and loving, are all about. Mildred Loving |
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