Who the heck is Samuel Thompson?

calladus · 8th September 2003, 08:08 AM

I got this in an email today from a fundamentalist friend of mine -
Link to text

In talking about prayer in a football game:

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"But what about the atheists?" is another argument. What about them? Nobody is asking them to be baptized. We're not going to pass the collection plate. Just humor us for 30 seconds.

Skeptical Greg · 8th September 2003, 08:44 AM

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Our Bible tells us just to pray without ceasing.

It also tells you to do it in private..

Matthew 6

5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
8 Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.

Sounds like good advice., particularly the part about ' God knows what you need, before you ask. '

A prayer sounds like blasphemy to me.. Trying to get him to change his mind..

arcticpenguin · 8th September 2003, 08:48 AM

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Just humor us for 30 seconds.

Where's the reciprococity? Will they ever humor me?

Brown · 8th September 2003, 08:49 AM

Samuel Thompson, meet Sharon Young.

These two would probably get along really well together.

wollery · 8th September 2003, 09:45 AM

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Originally posted by Diogenes
7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

Err, what does this say about Catholics with their Hail Marys and Our Fathers?

Tormac · 8th September 2003, 10:50 AM

I wonder how much humoring the author of the quote would be willing to give a short pagan ceremony before large public events?

Would Mr. Thompson be willing to humor a 30 second prayer to Satan, Allah, Odin, or the uplifting "spirit of humanism"?

(not that Satan, Allah, Odin, or humanism are in anyway connected)

Skeptical Greg · 8th September 2003, 11:20 AM

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Originally posted by Tormac

(not that Satan, Allah, Odin, or humanism are in anyway connected)

And to what purpose did you offer this disclaimer? Which of these groups, or worshippers thereof, do you wish not to offend?

Yahzi · 8th September 2003, 12:02 PM

Poking around on the Samuel Johnson site, I found this:

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There were about 2 to 3 million people with Moses that needed to be fed.

Then he goes on about the miracles needed for 3 million people to cross the red sea.

My question is, where in the heck did they come up with this number? Einstein estimated that Hitler got 2/3 of the Jews in the world, meaning there were about 10 million Jews in 1940. By what insane stretch of reasoning could there be 3 million Jews in 1,000 B.C.E.?

Tormac · 8th September 2003, 12:05 PM

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Originally posted by Diogenes

And to what purpose did you offer this disclaimer? Which of these groups, or worshippers thereof, do you wish not to offend?

What? you didn't read my signature? I AM a nice man, with happy feelings all the time!

edited to add
(Besides have you ever had a congragation of angry vikings bust in on you for taking the name of Odin in vain? Well me either, but I'm not about ot encurage it)

calladus · 8th September 2003, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tormac
I wonder how much humoring the author of the quote would be willing to give a short pagan ceremony before large public events?

Would Mr. Thompson be willing to humor a 30 second prayer to Satan, Allah, Odin, or the uplifting "spirit of humanism"?

(not that Satan, Allah, Odin, or humanism are in anyway connected)

I wonder if Christians would be willing to hear a 30 second prayer at a major football game by Rev. Fred Felps. I'm sure that would be just fine, right?

LW · 9th September 2003, 09:13 AM

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Originally posted by Yahzi

My question is, where in the heck did they come up with this number? Einstein estimated that Hitler got 2/3 of the Jews in the world, meaning there were about 10 million Jews in 1940. By what insane stretch of reasoning could there be 3 million Jews in 1,000 B.C.E.?

Numeri 1:45-46 claims that there were 603 550 male Israelites who could bear arms into battle. Apparently they took that figure and estimated that there were four noncombatant to each combatant.

8th September 2003, 08:08 AM	#1
calladus Critical Thinker Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 331	Who the heck is Samuel Thompson? I got this in an email today from a fundamentalist friend of mine - Link to text In talking about prayer in a football game: Quote: "But what about the atheists?" is another argument. What about them? Nobody is asking them to be baptized. We're not going to pass the collection plate. Just humor us for 30 seconds.
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Skeptical Greg Agave Wine Connoisseur Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Just past 'Resume Speed' Posts: 12,873	Quote: Our Bible tells us just to pray without ceasing. It also tells you to do it in private.. Matthew 6 5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. 6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly. 7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking. 8 Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him. Sounds like good advice., particularly the part about ' God knows what you need, before you ask. ' A prayer sounds like blasphemy to me.. Trying to get him to change his mind..
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8th September 2003, 08:48 AM	#3
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8th September 2003, 08:49 AM	#4
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8th September 2003, 09:45 AM	#5
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8th September 2003, 10:50 AM	#6
Tormac Critical Thinker Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 399	I wonder how much humoring the author of the quote would be willing to give a short pagan ceremony before large public events? Would Mr. Thompson be willing to humor a 30 second prayer to Satan, Allah, Odin, or the uplifting "spirit of humanism"? (not that Satan, Allah, Odin, or humanism are in anyway connected)
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8th September 2003, 11:20 AM	#7
Skeptical Greg Agave Wine Connoisseur Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Just past 'Resume Speed' Posts: 12,873	Quote: Originally posted by Tormac (not that Satan, Allah, Odin, or humanism are in anyway connected) And to what purpose did you offer this disclaimer? Which of these groups, or worshippers thereof, do you wish not to offend?
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Yahzi Master Poster Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 2,672	Poking around on the Samuel Johnson site, I found this: Quote: There were about 2 to 3 million people with Moses that needed to be fed. Then he goes on about the miracles needed for 3 million people to cross the red sea. My question is, where in the heck did they come up with this number? Einstein estimated that Hitler got 2/3 of the Jews in the world, meaning there were about 10 million Jews in 1940. By what insane stretch of reasoning could there be 3 million Jews in 1,000 B.C.E.?
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8th September 2003, 12:05 PM	#9
Tormac Critical Thinker Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 399	Quote: Originally posted by Diogenes And to what purpose did you offer this disclaimer? Which of these groups, or worshippers thereof, do you wish not to offend? What? you didn't read my signature? I AM a nice man, with happy feelings all the time! edited to add (Besides have you ever had a congragation of angry vikings bust in on you for taking the name of Odin in vain? Well me either, but I'm not about ot encurage it)
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8th September 2003, 08:37 PM	#10
calladus Critical Thinker Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 331	Quote: Originally posted by Tormac I wonder how much humoring the author of the quote would be willing to give a short pagan ceremony before large public events? Would Mr. Thompson be willing to humor a 30 second prayer to Satan, Allah, Odin, or the uplifting "spirit of humanism"? (not that Satan, Allah, Odin, or humanism are in anyway connected) I wonder if Christians would be willing to hear a 30 second prayer at a major football game by Rev. Fred Felps. I'm sure that would be just fine, right?
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9th September 2003, 09:13 AM	#11
LW Master Poster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: 60°N 25°E Posts: 2,800	Quote: Originally posted by Yahzi My question is, where in the heck did they come up with this number? Einstein estimated that Hitler got 2/3 of the Jews in the world, meaning there were about 10 million Jews in 1940. By what insane stretch of reasoning could there be 3 million Jews in 1,000 B.C.E.? Numeri 1:45-46 claims that there were 603 550 male Israelites who could bear arms into battle. Apparently they took that figure and estimated that there were four noncombatant to each combatant.