BREAKING: Feds raid Copperfield warehouse!

greymatters · 18th October 2007, 05:50 PM

This news is just breaking. The Feds have just raided a warehouse owned by magician David Copperfield.

Updates as available at: http://tinyurl.com/29mebn

UPDATE: FBI agents also went to look around at the MGM Grand:

http://www.lasvegasnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=7234182

Unalienable · 18th October 2007, 06:04 PM

Ummm yeah right. Is this a joke?

Quote:

FBI agents stormed the warehouse and took a number of items for their investigation.

A source tells Eyewitness News there also appeared to be $2 million in cash inside the warehouse that was seized by the FBI.

Lisa Simpson · 18th October 2007, 06:13 PM

It's on TMZ.com so it must be true!! Although, reading the article it says "Los Angeles FOX affiliate KVVU is reporting that that magician David Copperfield is being investigated by the FBI." Umm...the Los Angeles FOX affiliate is KTTV. Perhaps the Las Vegas affiliate is KVVU.

I wonder what they're investigating him for?

greymatters · 18th October 2007, 06:16 PM

Yes, KVVU is the Las Vegas FOX affiliate.

Roadtoad · 18th October 2007, 06:33 PM

The scent of tuna is particularly strong.

jsfisher · 18th October 2007, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by greymatters

This news is just breaking. The Feds have just raided a warehouse owned by magician David Copperfield.

Updates as available at: http://tinyurl.com/29mebn

UPDATE: FBI agents also went to look around at the MGM Grand:

http://www.lasvegasnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=7234182

Why does that first link lead me to a story about joke-telling urinals? Now, I have nothing against joke-telling urinals -- as long as the pee guards are installed, of course -- but what has that to do with the FBI?

Gord_in_Toronto · 18th October 2007, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by jsfisher

Why does that first link lead me to a story about joke-telling urinals? Now, I have nothing against joke-telling urinals -- as long as the pee guards are installed, of course -- but what has that to do with the FBI?

"what has that to do with the FBI?" If I told you, I would have to kill myself.

greymatters · 18th October 2007, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by jsfisher

Why does that first link lead me to a story about joke-telling urinals? Now, I have nothing against joke-telling urinals -- as long as the pee guards are installed, of course -- but what has that to do with the FBI?

Check again. The joke-telling urinals story is still there, but the stories are now mainly about the FBI raid.

Foolmewunz · 18th October 2007, 07:54 PM

http://www.people.com/people/article...153177,00.html

People has picked up on it. The most disturbing line in that article.

He made fifty frakkin' seven frakkin' million frakkin' dollars last year!!!????

jsfisher · 18th October 2007, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by Foolmewunz

http://www.people.com/people/article...153177,00.html

People has picked up on it. The most disturbing line in that article.

He made fifty frakkin' seven frakkin' million frakkin' dollars last year!!!????

Well, it all makes more sense if you consider the commissions he must be getting on the talking urinal sales. I mean, come on, they are more popular than the "boogie bass" or the "pet rock."

greymatters · 18th October 2007, 07:57 PM

Perhaps they're investigating him for secretive behavior? Many of us are witness to his flying without going through TSA checkpoints.

genshi · 18th October 2007, 08:37 PM

When you make that much money and the FBI raid your place, it's usually about taxes.

Cain · 18th October 2007, 08:37 PM

I already knew Copperfield made 57 million dollars last year. If somebody two weeks ago asked me to guess how much David Copperfield's act brought in last year I would have said, "57 million dollars." The most disturbing thing about this event is that Leno, Letterman, Kimmel and others are going to use super obvious jokes using words like "disappear" and "vanish," probably with multiple references to his previous feat -- securing a "contract" with and/or banging Claudia Schiffer.

Azrael 5 · 19th October 2007, 09:47 AM

Did they seize a hoard of fake tan and a lot of cheese(left over from his act).

jsfisher · 19th October 2007, 10:38 AM

Fox news is reporting there is a rape allegation in Seattle.

alfaniner · 19th October 2007, 12:02 PM

Sorry, but I have this vision similar to someone breaking into the ACME Toon factory. I imagine pigeons flying everywhere, an agent stepping into a box and disappearing, dozens of rabbits hopping around, an elephant, a jet plane, and the Statue of Liberty hidden behind a bookcase, that sort of thing.

Azrael 5 · 19th October 2007, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by jsfisher

Fox news is reporting there is a rape allegation in Seattle.

Well he does tend to be carelss with his balls..at the shows Ive seen!

greymatters · 19th October 2007, 12:34 PM

I'd hate to think that this video is the basis of the claim!

LibraryLady · 19th October 2007, 01:19 PM

Here's what I found.

Quote:

According to published reports, sources close to the case say the investigation centers around possible sexual misconduct by the illusionist.

I think we need to sit back a bit and watch this pan out, but I am wondering why he would have $2million in cash.

greymatters · 19th October 2007, 01:44 PM

Questions:

* What evidence was sufficient enough not only to keep the investigation going, but to convince a judge to issue a warrant for a raid?

* I can understand why the FBI would take a digital camera, and maybe even the computers they took, but why did the FBI take the $2 million?

The Central Scrutinizer · 19th October 2007, 01:54 PM

From what I understand, the evidence they are looking for has disappeared.

Bandersnatch · 19th October 2007, 03:34 PM

And yet they still haven't found the Statue of Liberty!

DJM · 19th October 2007, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by Bandersnatch

And yet they still haven't found the Statue of Liberty!

I just hope he didn't rape her as well.

Azrael 5 · 19th October 2007, 04:49 PM

Apparently upon opening several boxes they found numerous showgirls,some sawn in half,a batch of smashed eggs,a piece from inside the Great wall of China and Webster the duck in a bucket.

Is there any truth the cash was found inside a box that was inside a bigger box,that was securely tied and in full view since before the Feds arrived?

greymatters · 19th October 2007, 08:20 PM

More questions:

* Why didn't the lady report it right away? Standard procedure would've had the police get a DNA sample via a sexual assault kit. Then all the FBI has to do is get a warrant for Copperfield's DNA, compare it, and proceed from there.

robinson · 19th October 2007, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by greymatters

I can understand why the FBI would take a digital camera, and maybe even the computers they took, but why did the FBI take the $2 million?

What money? We didn't find no money. That was an error, there was no cash.

alfaniner · 19th October 2007, 10:06 PM

This is going to be another Duke-U-type false rape case. You'd think attorneys would have learned by now.

Oh -- oops! They are the only ones who walk away scot-free, with tons of cash, from stuff like this.

greymatters · 20th October 2007, 01:27 AM

Hey, if it gets rid of another Mike Nifong, it might be worth it! (Of course, Nifong hardly walked away scot-free.)

Rasmus · 20th October 2007, 01:47 AM

Originally Posted by LibraryLady

I am wondering why he would have $2million in cash.

Because he can?

More seriously, it wouldn't surprise me to hear that there are things he needs to buy for his show and pay them cash rather than order them through mail using a credit card. Tracing material to him might just reveal some of his tricks? (Like, a 2nd bulldozer *shrugs* what do I know?) So, give cash to one of your friends/employees and make them go buy the things you need.

Also keep in mind that it's just a fraction of what he earns every month - that might be easier to explain than if you or I had that type of money lying around. (I, at least, couldn't even begin to explain why I had a wearhouse ...)

WildCat · 20th October 2007, 06:50 AM

Originally Posted by LibraryLady

I am wondering why he would have $2million in cash.

Maybe he's like Chuck Berry, and demands to be paid in cash before he performs.

kittynh · 20th October 2007, 08:49 AM

well, I find it weird that a rape allegation means they have to search his props and the MGM Grand. Maybe FBI agents just wanted a vacation or something.

If the warrent to search did not include the cash as on objective, I'm not sure how much they can make of it.

Mind you the IRS can go after you no matter WHAT.

kittynh · 20th October 2007, 08:51 AM

Just another odd note. I remember when he was engaged to Claudia Schiffer. Rumors were that he is gay and she was a cover for this so he would remain a sex symbol to his fans.

So, male or female rape.

Bob Klase · 20th October 2007, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by kittynh

Just another odd note. I remember when he was engaged to Claudia Schiffer. Rumors were that he is gay and she was a cover for this so he would remain a sex symbol to his fans.

So, male or female rape.

Since the accuser is a woman I think it's a safe guess that it would be female rape.

http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Enterta..._of_rape/2397/

DJM · 20th October 2007, 09:37 AM

Unless of course she's a "woman".

Azrael 5 · 20th October 2007, 12:45 PM

Ive heard a warrant is out for Webster... for dealing quack!!

Bob Klase · 20th October 2007, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by Azrael 5

Ive heard a warrant is out for Webster... for dealing quack!!

Keep telling bad jokes and you'd better duck!

MLynn · 20th October 2007, 07:58 PM

I guess it's going to be awhile till we know what's going on - the FBI is keeping mum and even Copperfield's lawyer would like some answers from the feds.

It must be nice to be so rich you can keep $2MM in spare change in a wharehouse....

fuelair · 20th October 2007, 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by LibraryLady

Here's what I found.

I think we need to sit back a bit and watch this pan out, but I am wondering why he would have $2million in cash.

Within my limited experience, any person with a million or more should, just on general principles, keep a small but reasonable (200,000 there, but at least 5% unless we hit over 10 mill)part of it in cash, gems, bearer bonds and equivalent, readily accessible but not generally known. Situations change, be prepared.

I also suggest, in no exact order, your original passport (have a second one made up - you are wealthy, you can afford a really good copy to turn over under certain cases. A few with different names and make-up effects is not a bad investment either - as well as several other forms of ID similarly done.), a cell phone /cell phones with very false, as untraceable as possible backgrounds - prepaid for connected periods semi-random for a several month period. Lot's more - but first you have to have the money, then worry about preserving youself and your lifestyle.

The Central Scrutinizer · 21st October 2007, 07:15 AM

Originally Posted by MLynn

I guess it's going to be awhile till we know what's going on - the FBI is keeping mum and even Copperfield's lawyer would like some answers from the feds.

So they're holding his mother until he talks?

Brown · 21st October 2007, 07:18 AM

Okay, so when are the "David Cop-a-feel" jokes going to start?

It may be worth noting that Kot--I mean, Copperfield--himself has made those same jokes during his shows for decades now.

18th October 2007, 05:50 PM	#1
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18th October 2007, 06:13 PM	#3
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18th October 2007, 06:33 PM	#6
jsfisher ETcorngods survivor Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 6,998	Originally Posted by greymatters This news is just breaking. The Feds have just raided a warehouse owned by magician David Copperfield. Updates as available at: http://tinyurl.com/29mebn UPDATE: FBI agents also went to look around at the MGM Grand: http://www.lasvegasnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=7234182 Why does that first link lead me to a story about joke-telling urinals? Now, I have nothing against joke-telling urinals -- as long as the pee guards are installed, of course -- but what has that to do with the FBI?
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18th October 2007, 06:04 PM	#2
Unalienable Critical Thinker Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 293	Ummm yeah right. Is this a joke? Quote: FBI agents stormed the warehouse and took a number of items for their investigation. A source tells Eyewitness News there also appeared to be $2 million in cash inside the warehouse that was seized by the FBI.

18th October 2007, 07:00 PM	#7
Gord_in_Toronto Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 8,173	Originally Posted by jsfisher Why does that first link lead me to a story about joke-telling urinals? Now, I have nothing against joke-telling urinals -- as long as the pee guards are installed, of course -- but what has that to do with the FBI? "what has that to do with the FBI?" If I told you, I would have to kill myself.
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18th October 2007, 07:11 PM	#8
greymatters Muse Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 751	Originally Posted by jsfisher Why does that first link lead me to a story about joke-telling urinals? Now, I have nothing against joke-telling urinals -- as long as the pee guards are installed, of course -- but what has that to do with the FBI? Check again. The joke-telling urinals story is still there, but the stories are now mainly about the FBI raid.
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18th October 2007, 07:54 PM	#9
Foolmewunz Grammar Resistance Leader Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 10,131	http://www.people.com/people/article...153177,00.html People has picked up on it. The most disturbing line in that article. He made fifty frakkin' seven frakkin' million frakkin' dollars last year!!!????
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jsfisher ETcorngods survivor Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 6,998	Originally Posted by Foolmewunz http://www.people.com/people/article...153177,00.html People has picked up on it. The most disturbing line in that article. He made fifty frakkin' seven frakkin' million frakkin' dollars last year!!!???? Well, it all makes more sense if you consider the commissions he must be getting on the talking urinal sales. I mean, come on, they are more popular than the "boogie bass" or the "pet rock."
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18th October 2007, 08:37 PM	#13
Cain Contrarian Join Date: May 2002 Location: S. California Posts: 3,958	I already knew Copperfield made 57 million dollars last year. If somebody two weeks ago asked me to guess how much David Copperfield's act brought in last year I would have said, "57 million dollars." The most disturbing thing about this event is that Leno, Letterman, Kimmel and others are going to use super obvious jokes using words like "disappear" and "vanish," probably with multiple references to his previous feat -- securing a "contract" with and/or banging Claudia Schiffer.
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19th October 2007, 10:38 AM	#15
jsfisher ETcorngods survivor Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 6,998	Fox news is reporting there is a rape allegation in Seattle.
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19th October 2007, 12:02 PM	#16
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19th October 2007, 12:04 PM	#17
Azrael 5 Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Yorkshire,Uk Posts: 4,220	Originally Posted by jsfisher Fox news is reporting there is a rape allegation in Seattle. Well he does tend to be carelss with his balls..at the shows Ive seen!
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19th October 2007, 12:34 PM	#18
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19th October 2007, 01:19 PM	#19
LibraryLady Hunter of the SnarK Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: University of Southern North Dakota at Hoople Posts: 9,201	Here's what I found. Quote: According to published reports, sources close to the case say the investigation centers around possible sexual misconduct by the illusionist. I think we need to sit back a bit and watch this pan out, but I am wondering why he would have $2million in cash.
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19th October 2007, 01:44 PM	#20
greymatters Muse Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 751	Questions: * What evidence was sufficient enough not only to keep the investigation going, but to convince a judge to issue a warrant for a raid? * I can understand why the FBI would take a digital camera, and maybe even the computers they took, but why did the FBI take the $2 million?
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19th October 2007, 01:54 PM	#21
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19th October 2007, 03:34 PM	#22
Bandersnatch Critical Thinker Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 403	And yet they still haven't found the Statue of Liberty!

19th October 2007, 03:39 PM	#23
DJM Muse Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 783	Originally Posted by Bandersnatch And yet they still haven't found the Statue of Liberty! I just hope he didn't rape her as well.
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19th October 2007, 04:49 PM	#24
Azrael 5 Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Yorkshire,Uk Posts: 4,220	Apparently upon opening several boxes they found numerous showgirls,some sawn in half,a batch of smashed eggs,a piece from inside the Great wall of China and Webster the duck in a bucket. Is there any truth the cash was found inside a box that was inside a bigger box,that was securely tied and in full view since before the Feds arrived?
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19th October 2007, 08:20 PM	#25
greymatters Muse Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 751	More questions: * Why didn't the lady report it right away? Standard procedure would've had the police get a DNA sample via a sexual assault kit. Then all the FBI has to do is get a warrant for Copperfield's DNA, compare it, and proceed from there.
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19th October 2007, 08:34 PM	#26
robinson Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Washington D.C. Posts: 6,136	Originally Posted by greymatters I can understand why the FBI would take a digital camera, and maybe even the computers they took, but why did the FBI take the $2 million? What money? We didn't find no money. That was an error, there was no cash.

19th October 2007, 10:06 PM	#27
alfaniner Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Sorth Dakonsin Posts: 7,648	This is going to be another Duke-U-type false rape case. You'd think attorneys would have learned by now. Oh -- oops! They are the only ones who walk away scot-free, with tons of cash, from stuff like this.

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Rasmus Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 3,627	Originally Posted by LibraryLady I am wondering why he would have $2million in cash. Because he can? More seriously, it wouldn't surprise me to hear that there are things he needs to buy for his show and pay them cash rather than order them through mail using a credit card. Tracing material to him might just reveal some of his tricks? (Like, a 2nd bulldozer shrugs what do I know?) So, give cash to one of your friends/employees and make them go buy the things you need. Also keep in mind that it's just a fraction of what he earns every month - that might be easier to explain than if you or I had that type of money lying around. (I, at least, couldn't even begin to explain why I had a wearhouse ...)
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20th October 2007, 06:50 AM	#30
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20th October 2007, 08:49 AM	#31
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20th October 2007, 08:51 AM	#32
kittynh The Hupsu Detective auctioneer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: If I told the aliens could find me, and you know they read this forum Posts: 20,645	Just another odd note. I remember when he was engaged to Claudia Schiffer. Rumors were that he is gay and she was a cover for this so he would remain a sex symbol to his fans. So, male or female rape.
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20th October 2007, 09:23 AM	#33
Bob Klase Master Poster Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Largo, FL Posts: 2,445	Originally Posted by kittynh Just another odd note. I remember when he was engaged to Claudia Schiffer. Rumors were that he is gay and she was a cover for this so he would remain a sex symbol to his fans. So, male or female rape. Since the accuser is a woman I think it's a safe guess that it would be female rape. http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Enterta..._of_rape/2397/

20th October 2007, 09:37 AM	#34
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20th October 2007, 12:45 PM	#35
Azrael 5 Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Yorkshire,Uk Posts: 4,220	Ive heard a warrant is out for Webster... for dealing quack!!
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20th October 2007, 07:09 PM	#36
Bob Klase Master Poster Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Largo, FL Posts: 2,445	Originally Posted by Azrael 5 Ive heard a warrant is out for Webster... for dealing quack!! Keep telling bad jokes and you'd better duck!