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Old 16th November 2007, 07:04 PM   #1
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I guess LC:FC WAS all about the $$$...

Heh.

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The LTW folks would really appreciate it if people would purchase it instead of pirating it.

It cost hundreds of thousands to make the film, and the LTW crew needs to pay back debts to their investors. Think about it this way. A couple of young guys took a HUGE personal risk by financing a film that is critically important to this country and the world. The least that the rest of the world could contribute is $6.95 or $19.95 to help repay the debt and keep the creators out of debt.

As soon as the investors are paid back, the film will be more readily available. In the meantime, do your little part. At LEAST have enough respect not to come in to the Loose Change Forum asking for handouts. The LTW crew has proven their dedication to this cause, and next time you're in Starbucks paying $4.00 for a lousy corporate coffee, remember you're over 1/2 way to the $7 you need to help some great Americans spread the word and change the world.

By the way, thanks to all the forum members who seem to get this!

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You'd be surprised to hear what things cost. I'm not at liberty to give details, plus I don't honestly have them all. Check this out: UK Preview - close to 1 million according to that.

Just the cameras that they use and the machine to edit will set you back $50,000. Think about traveling around the country filming. The 3d animations cost quite a bit. It all adds up.

Don't forget, these figures don't include the many hours the guys spent making it and the salaries they should be making. (ed. - HAH!) Think about it, even if you assume it's 3 people (it's actually more like 6) working full time for a year on the film, and then assume they each earn even a measly $15 an hour, then it's $90,000 just on the salaries they should be making. Now I'm not saying they've taken a penny for it, but I sure think they should, and when you scoff at the cost, I think you're not seeing the whole picture.
They're making money by spitting on the graves of the 9-11 dead. They deserve they go into irreconcilable bankruptcy.
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Old 16th November 2007, 07:20 PM   #2
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So he's going back to his original plan... making a movie about the government doing a terrorist attack, and he makes money.

And now the circle is complete
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Old 16th November 2007, 07:25 PM   #3
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Yeah, I think I'd go for the corporate coffee. It's Dylan's own fault that he's working "full time" on this dead horse.

Any thoughts as to whether the LC creators will actually sanction pirating of Final Cut when they get "enough money?" Exactly what is "enough money" anyway?

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Hmm ... "Think about it, even if you assume it's 3 people (it's actually more like 6) working full time for a year on the film ..."

Soooo ... They didn't actually even start on it until AFTER the 5th anniversary when it was supposed to originally be released?
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Originally Posted by Good Lt View Post
Heh.

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They're making money by spitting on the graves of the 9-11 dead. They deserve they go into irreconcilable bankruptcy.
Soooo....to venture a guess....might the next release be called "Loose Change:Chapter 11 Edition"?
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Old 16th November 2007, 08:13 PM   #6
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I hope they never make a dime on this... NOT a dime... A truther lecturing on respect.
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Pirating?


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by not purchasing his movie, you help save the planet!!
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Old 16th November 2007, 08:39 PM   #10
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The cold grip of reality is beginning to close around LTW throats. They are becoming the very thing they are supposedly combating. Buahahahahaha!
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Old 16th November 2007, 09:13 PM   #11
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NWO wins again!

THERE IS NO ESCAPE!!



See, now if they had the Troofer bucks thing up and running, none of this would even be an issue.
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Old 16th November 2007, 09:50 PM   #12
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If you don't want to go bankrupt over a movie, maybe you should make sure your target audience is a) older than 18 and b) employed.
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Old 16th November 2007, 09:51 PM   #13
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If you don't want to go bankrupt over a movie, maybe you should make sure your target audience is a) older than 18 and b) employed.
"our demographics indicate we have not reached the target market"

I pray to the FSM there is no Loose Change, The Video Game.
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Reminds me of one of my favorite "Weird Al" hits:

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Thanks for the reminder to put my Azureus back up again to continue seeding LCFE.
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Reminds me of one of my favorite "Weird Al" hits:

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and that reminds me of one of my favorite nerdcore songs

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With all of the hullabaloo around the Loosechange Final Cut release (an Alex Jones joint) it is quite interesting to see Barney.com surpassing even Infowars on the alexa site ratings..BWAHAHAH I would consider that a Flop-o-rama that makes Gigli look like Gone with the Wind.

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You know, it's not admirable (or patriotic) to have to sacrifice for what you believe is a worthy cause.

Oh wait.....

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and that reminds me of one of my favorite nerdcore songs

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oh yeah?
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Unfortunately for Dylan, he cut out the one thing that made the other versions remotely watchable: the cheap hip-hop.
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Loose Change, The Video Game???

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"our demographics indicate we have not reached the target market"

I pray to the FSM there is no Loose Change, The Video Game.
comic relief???

never...
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Originally Posted by Unsecured Coins View Post
"our demographics indicate we have not reached the target market"

I pray to the FSM there is no Loose Change, The Video Game.
If "Cats" (the musical) couldn't inspire a video game, it's a pretty safe bet LC doesn't have a chance.

P.S.- Love the graph,GwionX!
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comic relief???

never...
hey... every now and then I say something that gets a slight chuckle from the masses.

The rest of my jibba jibba leaves them in that awkward silence seen in most pre-teens first date scenarios
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hey... every now and then I say something that gets a slight chuckle from the masses.

The rest of my jibba jibba leaves them in that awkward silence seen in most pre-teens first date scenarios
What??? Are you suggesting that skeptics don't have a sense of humor???

You make me laugh on a daily basis...
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Originally Posted by Unsecured Coins View Post
"our demographics indicate we have not reached the target market"

I pray to the FSM there is no Loose Change, The Video Game.
[slight derail]Your prayers have been answered, or at least the mainstream has acknowledged His Noodly Goodness! I got a chuckle from this CNN story about FSM.[/slight derail]
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i wonder what LC:TVG would be like.

I envision it would start out like the NES version of Metal Gear, where you get dropped off with nothing except a glistening pile of tin on your cranium, and your only weapon is your fist that you can never seem to hit yourself with. As you journey the map in search of facts, you pick up media attention here, a group of fans there, and of course, the cardboard box, used not to hide yourself from skeptics and reality, but as your lone source of shelter after your masterpiece bombs like Beverly Hills Cop 3.

As the game continues, you are forced to explain what's taking you so long to your friends and family, who continue to watch you play and play, but never seem to win anything. You don't advance any levels, you don't power up, you just seem to wander around trying to dig a canal with a tooth pick.

Rated M for Mature.
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You need to work a tin-foil hat into this to be credible.
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i wonder what LC:TVG would be like.
Let's not forget the bosses: Bill Maher, Larry Silverstein, and assorted political figures whom you "beat" simply by being on the screen with them.
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i wonder what LC:TVG would be like.

I envision it would start out like the NES version of Metal Gear, where you get dropped off with nothing except a glistening pile of tin on your cranium, and your only weapon is your fist that you can never seem to hit yourself with. As you journey the map in search of facts, you pick up media attention here, a group of fans there, and of course, the cardboard box, used not to hide yourself from skeptics and reality, but as your lone source of shelter after your masterpiece bombs like Beverly Hills Cop 3.

As the game continues, you are forced to explain what's taking you so long to your friends and family, who continue to watch you play and play, but never seem to win anything. You don't advance any levels, you don't power up, you just seem to wander around trying to dig a canal with a tooth pick.

Rated M for Mature.
Ouch...

A glistening pile of tin???

I am going to crawl into my cardboard box and hide from you skeptics and reality... I may cry a little too!!!
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now now... don't get too upset. we have Danish baskets for you when you come out and socialize
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now now... don't get too upset. we have Danish baskets for you when you come out and socialize
What exactly is a danish basket?
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it's a basket. filled with select danishes.

I know, I was confused at first too.
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"A lousy corporate coffee" Isn't his myspace avatar a fake Rolling Stone cover of him and hos crew and hes holding a Starbucks coffee? LTW is so full of contradictions...
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With all of the hullabaloo around the Loosechange Final Cut release (an Alex Jones joint) it is quite interesting to see Barney.com surpassing even Infowars on the alexa site ratings..BWAHAHAH I would consider that a Flop-o-rama that makes Gigli look like Gone with the Wind.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Alexagraph.png



A million bucks huh? Good luck guys!
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Here is Dylan saying, it cost $200-$250K to make the film.

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(livefreeordietryin @ Nov 16 2007, 03:50 AM) It's all speculation at this point, for all we know they made it for a cool 50,000$

Dylan
: Take that number and multiply it by at least 4 or 5...

Two years, alot of traveling, alot of interviews, and alot of footage to be cleared and paid for.

It will be free as soon as our investors have their money back.
http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Ch...ost&p=14696716

I think the investors never get their money back. And Dylan said 10% of the profits will go to first responders. I guess they get nothing either.

Some calculations:

250 000 / 19,95 = 12 531. They would have to sell 12 531 DVD's to pay back their investors and get even.

250 000 / 6,95 = 35 971. They would have to sell 35 971 live streams to pay back their investors and get even.

Until then, no profits, no donations.
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Old 17th November 2007, 04:32 AM   #38
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Originally Posted by ref View Post
Here is Dylan saying, it cost $200-$250K to make the film.

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Ch...ost&p=14696716

I think the investors never get their money back. And Dylan said 10% of the profits will go to first responders. I guess they get nothing either.

Some calculations:

250 000 / 19,95 = 12 531. They would have to sell 12 531 DVD's to pay back their investors and get even.

250 000 / 6,95 = 35 971. They would have to sell 35 971 live streams to pay back their investors and get even.

Until then, no profits, no donations.
From that thread, confirmation that Final Cut v1.1 is on its way...

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The audio issues have been corrected on the DVD version. The spelling mistakes, unfortunately, are still there. They'll be fixed at the next pressing, but that won't be for a while. sorry! There was a rush to get this done in the very end and some typos slipped through.
Apparently LC:FC is v1 'Writen by Dylan Avery'. Doesn't that just say it all?
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Old 17th November 2007, 04:35 AM   #39
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I also adore the logic

"we'll make it available for free once our investors make their money back'

Yes because thats why you invest in something. To break even. You plow the cash in for no benefit to yourself at all. Yessire bob.

Shrinker I just added that to the Stundie thread as well
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Old 17th November 2007, 04:43 AM   #40
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Originally Posted by Shrinker View Post
From that thread, confirmation that Final Cut v1.1 is on its way...

Apparently LC:FC is v1 'Writen by Dylan Avery'. Doesn't that just say it all?
I wish I could find the thread where Dylan hinted at the prospect of another version.

He said something like "your feedback will let us know if we need to change anything".

That's not an exact quote, but good enough for a CTist.
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