Truthers are boring

Alferd_Packer · 19th November 2007, 06:30 PM

LV:FC is a bust. Truther shenanigans are down. No one is writing impassioned, but stupid letter to editors any more. Kevin Barrrett has to sunk to dancing around in a V mask. In short, the truthers are no fun any more.

Sabrina · 19th November 2007, 06:35 PM

Well, we're not at the true end yet... but we're well past the beginning of the end...

The middle of the end?

JMarshall · 19th November 2007, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by Alferd_Packer

Barrrett has to sunk to dancing around in a V mask.

Well, I thought that was almost amusing...

T.A.M. · 19th November 2007, 07:08 PM

My Avatar shows what I think of Barrett and the other Vendetta lovers...lol

As for the truth movement...it is getting rather dull. I find the challenge is gone, the bitterness is definitely rising in them, and I think this is because they know there movement is in its death throws.

TAM

Good Lt · 19th November 2007, 07:16 PM

I don't think they're boring. Their MO certain is boring now that it's been shown to be nothing but childish idiocy.

But the Troofers themselves?

They're infinitely entertaining. In that hate-to-watch-but-can't-turn-away-trainwreck kind of way.

tomwaits · 19th November 2007, 07:27 PM

I am a student at UW-Madison. I actually took Barrett's class during the entire controversy. It's pretty sad to see how he went from "Professor With Bizarre Opinions Not Related to His Expertise" to complete loony who thinks the clunkity-clunk theory is valid. I assume he thinks his inability to get hired again by the university is another part of the conspiracy, but really they are just sick of his nonsense.

qarnos · 19th November 2007, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by Alferd_Packer

LV:FC is a bust. Truther shenanigans are down. No one is writing impassioned, but stupid letter to editors any more. Kevin Barrrett has to sunk to dancing around in a V mask. In short, the truthers are no fun any more.

It's funny... I was browsing LCF today thinking the exact same thing.

Final Cut was a gigantic non-event.

JMarshall · 19th November 2007, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by tomwaits

I am a student at UW-Madison. I actually took Barrett's class during the entire controversy. It's pretty sad to see how he went from "Professor With Bizarre Opinions Not Related to His Expertise" to complete loony who thinks the clunkity-clunk theory is valid. I assume he thinks his inability to get hired again by the university is another part of the conspiracy, but really they are just sick of his nonsense.

Welcome to the forums, and to a fellow Wisconsinite (even if it was just for the UW)

Furi · 19th November 2007, 07:38 PM

(edit... meant to quote TAM but didn't)

I find it quite annoying that the woowoos have adopted the V mask, I happen to like dystopian stories (gotta love your Orwell and the casting of Hurt was just perfect the film would have died on it's backside apart from that I think)

I have BB (Bob Flag) and various INGSOC styled propaganda as my screeny in work (Iwork for the civil service... shudder) not a woowoo by any means... just that the adoption of the V mask evacuates my bladder against a wall slightly more than the "interpretation" of Constantine (sprays vodka out of nose at being that polite)

tomwaits · 19th November 2007, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by Furi

(edit... meant to quote TAM but didn't)

I find it quite annoying that the woowoos have adopted the V mask, I happen to like dystopian stories (gotta love your Orwell and the casting of Hurt was just perfect the film would have died on it's backside apart from that I think)

I have to disagree. The movie 1984 was awful. Hurt is cool but it seems like he just stares into space the whole movie. The book, however, is one of my favorites. Although I find it really obnoxious every time somebody evokes it and goes "SEE!! IT'S COMING!!" These are people who don't understand what the book is about or in what context it was written.

defaultdotxbe · 19th November 2007, 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by Furi

(edit... meant to quote TAM but didn't)

I find it quite annoying that the woowoos have adopted the V mask, I happen to like dystopian stories (gotta love your Orwell and the casting of Hurt was just perfect the film would have died on it's backside apart from that I think)

I have BB (Bob Flag) and various INGSOC styled propaganda as my screeny in work (Iwork for the civil service... shudder) not a woowoo by any means... just that the adoption of the V mask evacuates my bladder against a wall slightly more than the "interpretation" of Constantine (sprays vodka out of nose at being that polite)

i never saw the movie, but im a big alan moore fan

i often wonder if the truthers would identify with V if they read the graphic novel (or if they even know it was a comic before it was a movie)

tomwaits · 19th November 2007, 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by JMarshall

Welcome to the forums, and to a fellow Wisconsinite (even if it was just for the UW)

Actually I'm from Chicago. I love wearing Bears gear around town and getting dirty looks. Or at least, I used to until this horrible season.

JMarshall · 19th November 2007, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by tomwaits

Actually I'm from Chicago. I love wearing Bears gear around town and getting dirty looks. Or at least, I used to until this horrible season.

Well, no body is perfect... LOL

T.A.M. · 19th November 2007, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by Furi

(edit... meant to quote TAM but didn't)

I find it quite annoying that the woowoos have adopted the V mask, I happen to like dystopian stories (gotta love your Orwell and the casting of Hurt was just perfect the film would have died on it's backside apart from that I think)

I have BB (Bob Flag) and various INGSOC styled propaganda as my screeny in work (Iwork for the civil service... shudder) not a woowoo by any means... just that the adoption of the V mask evacuates my bladder against a wall slightly more than the "interpretation" of Constantine (sprays vodka out of nose at being that polite)

Yes I have to agree. My annoyance, and subsequent foot stomping of the V mask is a reflection of my dislike for the truthers, or at least the acid they spew.

TAM

Wildy · 19th November 2007, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by tomwaits

I have to disagree. The movie 1984 was awful. Hurt is cool but it seems like he just stares into space the whole movie. The book, however, is one of my favorites. Although I find it really obnoxious every time somebody evokes it and goes "SEE!! IT'S COMING!!" These are people who don't understand what the book is about or in what context it was written.

I'm a bit indifferent about the movie (This is the '84 film though, not the '56 one right?), but I do agree it's annoying to hear these people use the book as if it was some prophecy.

Although it's quite easy to use the book itself to disprove their point, especially when they say that this is happening right now, or the government is doing the same thing in the book as here.

hellaeon · 19th November 2007, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by T.A.M.

As for the truth movement...it is getting rather dull. I find the challenge is gone, the bitterness is definitely rising in them, and I think this is because they know there movement is in its death throws.

TAM

I have to agree somewhat with this.
There is an endless recycling of the same stuff over and over again, if anything, we might come across even more absurdity in already lunatic fringe theories.

But thats it.

What have the latest truther forum members brought here except anger and resentment? the bitterness is in leaps and bounds. I come back here now more for the laugh then anything else. I think the theories have become so unbelievable and impossible now that the movement itself is its own worst enemy.

In all the theories and time since the event, the complaints about how long the investigation is taking and how its been done till now are endless from the truthers - the same mob that have NO coherent linear theory of the day. Every theory or buzz statement I hear from them contradicts another, yet a truther will embrace all theories as it supports the desired conclusion.
The gage silent thermite/massive explosions arguement is just the latest. In all that time the supporting evidence for the official line seems to keep slowly growing, whilst the multiple theories of trutherville get more fractured by the day.

And of course : LCFC has been a huuuuge success!

I have to agree with the OP in regards to how I feel now....truthers are really starting to get boring! And very annoying.

Cheers

beachnut · 19th November 2007, 09:22 PM

Originally Posted by Alferd_Packer

LV:FC is a bust. Truther shenanigans are down. No one is writing impassioned, but stupid letter to editors any more. Kevin Barrrett has to sunk to dancing around in a V mask. In short, the truthers are no fun any more.

Most people are too polite and ignore the people who spew idiot ideas of 9/11 truth. It does seem boring with no new crazy ideas or new entertainers stepping into the dumb light of 9/11 truth.

What is the next step for a the failed ideas of 9/11 truth? At least bigfoot followers are not blaming people for anything. Bigfoot, more "evidence" than 9/11 truth? so sad

NikZeta302 · 19th November 2007, 09:23 PM

Well the troofers know that there years as a united(kinda) force are near an end, when in 08 Bush leaves office for which ever Dem comes to power and most likely pulls our troops out of Iraq. No longer able to leach off of anti-war/Bush protesters they return to there holes.

MetalliSociety · 19th November 2007, 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by tomwaits

Actually I'm from Chicago. I love wearing Bears gear around town and getting dirty looks. Or at least, I used to until this horrible season.

Yeah I hear that. Grossman is back in there, so good luck to ya. BTW Welcome to the forums, and isn't Tom Waits that old musician that made an album full of pirate-esque music?

The Doc · 19th November 2007, 10:09 PM

I've actually been wanting to start a new debunking project/paper. The only thing that's stopping me is the fact that it's all been debunked before, and there is nothing new out there.

The truth movement really is getting boring.

OldTigerCub · 19th November 2007, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by Sabrina

Well, we're not at the true end yet... but we're well past the beginning of the end...

The middle of the end?

Your real name wouldn't happen to be Winston by any chance, would it?...nahhhhhh...good quote, though!

I have to say that seeing the same arguments over and over, and none with any merit, is rather boring....I just wish troothers would come up with something new, but of course that is not likely to happen.

OldTigerCub · 19th November 2007, 10:29 PM

Originally Posted by The Doc

I've actually been wanting to start a new debunking project/paper. The only thing that's stopping me is the fact that it's all been debunked before, and there is nothing new out there.

The truth movement really is getting boring.

It's kind of like debating a play by Shakespeare. The story can be annalyzed over and over, but the story is still the same and everyone knows how it turns out.

The Doc · 19th November 2007, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by OldTigerCub

It's kind of like debating a play by Shakespeare. The story can be annalyzed over and over, but the story is still the same and everyone knows how it turns out.

That's a damn good analogy

tomwaits · 19th November 2007, 10:55 PM

Originally Posted by MetalliSociety

Yeah I hear that. Grossman is back in there, so good luck to ya. BTW Welcome to the forums, and isn't Tom Waits that old musician that made an album full of pirate-esque music?

you mean the musician that's put out 20 amazing albums?!

MetalliSociety · 19th November 2007, 11:12 PM

Originally Posted by tomwaits

you mean the musician that's put out 20 amazing albums?!

Yeah that's the man with the plan! Good stuff...

JimBenArm · 20th November 2007, 04:20 AM

Oh, they're getting old, no doubt. There hasn't been anything new (not counting the truly insane notions like thermite shock tubes and such), the arguments are the same crap over and over again. I find myself spending much more time in other areas of the forum, because there just isn't anything here worthy of attention anymore.

Father Dagon · 20th November 2007, 04:34 AM

Originally Posted by NikZeta302

Well the troofers know that there years as a united(kinda) force are near an end, when in 08 Bush leaves office for which ever Dem comes to power and most likely pulls our troops out of Iraq. No longer able to leach off of anti-war/Bush protesters they return to there holes.

Or not protesting at all when the Dems lets the islamofascists have a taste of Big Government, lol!

Somebody should write a book about the twoofes, or has somebody already did?

JAStewart · 20th November 2007, 04:50 AM

The best thing to come out of the Twoof movement is the video's of their outrageous quotes that we compile.

JAStewart · 20th November 2007, 04:51 AM

Originally Posted by tomwaits

you mean the musician that's put out 20 amazing albums?!

I'll drink to that

Father Dagon · 20th November 2007, 05:17 AM

Originally Posted by JAStewart

The best thing to come out of the Twoof movement is the video's of their outrageous quotes that we compile.

Links for the lazy?

tomwaits · 20th November 2007, 11:08 AM

hxxp://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2007/01/denier-quotes-of-year-all-nutty.html

Disbelief · 20th November 2007, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by tomwaits

http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com...all-nutty.html

Taken care of.

PhantomWolf · 25th November 2007, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by OldTigerCub

Your real name wouldn't happen to be Winston by any chance, would it?...nahhhhhh...good quote, though!

I have to say that seeing the same arguments over and over, and none with any merit, is rather boring....I just wish troothers would come up with something new, but of course that is not likely to happen.

We suffer from this with the Apollo Hoax loons. You get a new one on the hook and it's all , yeah let's get something great that'll make us think. You're all ready with the Video Footage DVD's primed, books open on the desk and the ALSJ DVD spinning in the Computer Drive when you see the end of the post. "There aren't any stars in the photos." At that point your heart sinks and you start to beat your head on the desk and cry knowing that it isn't going to get any better from there till they get themselves banned.

defaultdotxbe · 25th November 2007, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by PhantomWolf

We suffer from this with the Apollo Hoax loons. You get a new one on the hook and it's all , yeah let's get something great that'll make us think. You're all ready with the Video Footage DVD's primed, books open on the desk and the ALSJ DVD spinning in the Computer Drive when you see the end of the post. "There aren't any stars in the photos." At that point your heart sinks and you start to beat your head on the desk and cry knowing that it isn't going to get any better from there till they get themselves banned.

jsut had this same feeling on the SLC forum, an apollo hoaxer whos been MIA for a while came back and i thought "oh cool, something non-9/11 to debunk"

the crux of his post was "look at the flag waving"

Architect · 25th November 2007, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by PhantomWolf

We suffer from this with the Apollo Hoax loons. You get a new one on the hook and it's all , yeah let's get something great that'll make us think. You're all ready with the Video Footage DVD's primed, books open on the desk and the ALSJ DVD spinning in the Computer Drive when you see the end of the post. "There aren't any stars in the photos." At that point your heart sinks and you start to beat your head on the desk and cry knowing that it isn't going to get any better from there till they get themselves banned.

Agreed.

I await a new and innovative argument. Hell, I await a decently presented argument!!

Normal Dude · 25th November 2007, 04:22 PM

I'm rather surprised I haven't seen a Truther who denies that the WTC was destroyed in the first place.

Architect · 25th November 2007, 04:24 PM

Well, how do we know that WTC existed in the first place? Maybe that was part of the conspiracy too.....

defaultdotxbe · 25th November 2007, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by Architect

Well, how do we know that WTC existed in the first place? Maybe that was part of the conspiracy too.....

i never saw it except in pictures....

uk_dave · 26th November 2007, 02:39 AM

Originally Posted by defaultdotxbe

i never saw it except in pictures....

and I've never seen the pictures, just secondhand accounts from people who claim to have seen the pictures.

I'm now going to place my finger in the flame of a candle to find out if it's true that.........ouch!

Normal Dude · 26th November 2007, 07:31 AM

I'm going to start a new Truth Movement that states that the airplanes and the Towers were all teleported to another dimension ala Philedelphia experiment. Everything else was faked. And I'm going to provide a mathematical proof that gravity depends results from air pressure.

19th November 2007, 06:30 PM	#1
Alferd_Packer Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 7,201	Truthers are boring LV:FC is a bust. Truther shenanigans are down. No one is writing impassioned, but stupid letter to editors any more. Kevin Barrrett has to sunk to dancing around in a V mask. In short, the truthers are no fun any more.
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19th November 2007, 06:35 PM	#2
Sabrina Wicked Lovely Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Spinning through space Posts: 6,870	Well, we're not at the true end yet... but we're well past the beginning of the end... The middle of the end?
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19th November 2007, 06:43 PM	#3
JMarshall Thinker Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 221	Originally Posted by Alferd_Packer Barrrett has to sunk to dancing around in a V mask. Well, I thought that was almost amusing...
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19th November 2007, 07:08 PM	#4
T.A.M. Keeper of the Kool-Vax Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Far East...of Canada Posts: 20,816	My Avatar shows what I think of Barrett and the other Vendetta lovers...lol As for the truth movement...it is getting rather dull. I find the challenge is gone, the bitterness is definitely rising in them, and I think this is because they know there movement is in its death throws. TAM
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19th November 2007, 07:16 PM	#5
Good Lt Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Satellite of Love Posts: 1,487	I don't think they're boring. Their MO certain is boring now that it's been shown to be nothing but childish idiocy. But the Troofers themselves? They're infinitely entertaining. In that hate-to-watch-but-can't-turn-away-trainwreck kind of way.
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19th November 2007, 07:27 PM	#6
tomwaits Master Poster Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Chicago, IL, USA Posts: 2,288	I am a student at UW-Madison. I actually took Barrett's class during the entire controversy. It's pretty sad to see how he went from "Professor With Bizarre Opinions Not Related to His Expertise" to complete loony who thinks the clunkity-clunk theory is valid. I assume he thinks his inability to get hired again by the university is another part of the conspiracy, but really they are just sick of his nonsense.

19th November 2007, 07:31 PM	#7
qarnos Cold-hearted skeptic Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Melbourne, Austrylia Posts: 1,985	Originally Posted by Alferd_Packer LV:FC is a bust. Truther shenanigans are down. No one is writing impassioned, but stupid letter to editors any more. Kevin Barrrett has to sunk to dancing around in a V mask. In short, the truthers are no fun any more. It's funny... I was browsing LCF today thinking the exact same thing. Final Cut was a gigantic non-event.
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19th November 2007, 07:37 PM	#8
JMarshall Thinker Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 221	Originally Posted by tomwaits I am a student at UW-Madison. I actually took Barrett's class during the entire controversy. It's pretty sad to see how he went from "Professor With Bizarre Opinions Not Related to His Expertise" to complete loony who thinks the clunkity-clunk theory is valid. I assume he thinks his inability to get hired again by the university is another part of the conspiracy, but really they are just sick of his nonsense. Welcome to the forums, and to a fellow Wisconsinite (even if it was just for the UW)
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19th November 2007, 07:38 PM	#9
Furi Felix Sapiens Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Living life in the bus lane Posts: 2,006	(edit... meant to quote TAM but didn't) I find it quite annoying that the woowoos have adopted the V mask, I happen to like dystopian stories (gotta love your Orwell and the casting of Hurt was just perfect the film would have died on it's backside apart from that I think) I have BB (Bob Flag) and various INGSOC styled propaganda as my screeny in work (Iwork for the civil service... shudder) not a woowoo by any means... just that the adoption of the V mask evacuates my bladder against a wall slightly more than the "interpretation" of Constantine (sprays vodka out of nose at being that polite)
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19th November 2007, 07:57 PM	#10
tomwaits Master Poster Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Chicago, IL, USA Posts: 2,288	Originally Posted by Furi (edit... meant to quote TAM but didn't) I find it quite annoying that the woowoos have adopted the V mask, I happen to like dystopian stories (gotta love your Orwell and the casting of Hurt was just perfect the film would have died on it's backside apart from that I think) I have to disagree. The movie 1984 was awful. Hurt is cool but it seems like he just stares into space the whole movie. The book, however, is one of my favorites. Although I find it really obnoxious every time somebody evokes it and goes "SEE!! IT'S COMING!!" These are people who don't understand what the book is about or in what context it was written.

19th November 2007, 07:58 PM	#11
defaultdotxbe Drunken Shikigami Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Dark Side of the Sun Posts: 7,482	Originally Posted by Furi (edit... meant to quote TAM but didn't) I find it quite annoying that the woowoos have adopted the V mask, I happen to like dystopian stories (gotta love your Orwell and the casting of Hurt was just perfect the film would have died on it's backside apart from that I think) I have BB (Bob Flag) and various INGSOC styled propaganda as my screeny in work (Iwork for the civil service... shudder) not a woowoo by any means... just that the adoption of the V mask evacuates my bladder against a wall slightly more than the "interpretation" of Constantine (sprays vodka out of nose at being that polite) i never saw the movie, but im a big alan moore fan i often wonder if the truthers would identify with V if they read the graphic novel (or if they even know it was a comic before it was a movie)
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19th November 2007, 07:58 PM	#12
tomwaits Master Poster Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Chicago, IL, USA Posts: 2,288	Originally Posted by JMarshall Welcome to the forums, and to a fellow Wisconsinite (even if it was just for the UW) Actually I'm from Chicago. I love wearing Bears gear around town and getting dirty looks. Or at least, I used to until this horrible season.

19th November 2007, 08:01 PM	#13
JMarshall Thinker Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 221	Originally Posted by tomwaits Actually I'm from Chicago. I love wearing Bears gear around town and getting dirty looks. Or at least, I used to until this horrible season. Well, no body is perfect... LOL
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19th November 2007, 08:55 PM	#15
Wildy Adelaidean Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Australia, not that you'll read the "location" field. Posts: 9,921	Originally Posted by tomwaits I have to disagree. The movie 1984 was awful. Hurt is cool but it seems like he just stares into space the whole movie. The book, however, is one of my favorites. Although I find it really obnoxious every time somebody evokes it and goes "SEE!! IT'S COMING!!" These are people who don't understand what the book is about or in what context it was written. I'm a bit indifferent about the movie (This is the '84 film though, not the '56 one right?), but I do agree it's annoying to hear these people use the book as if it was some prophecy. Although it's quite easy to use the book itself to disprove their point, especially when they say that this is happening right now, or the government is doing the same thing in the book as here.
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19th November 2007, 08:57 PM	#16
hellaeon Graduate Poster Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: City of Burning Churches, Australia Posts: 1,493	Originally Posted by T.A.M. As for the truth movement...it is getting rather dull. I find the challenge is gone, the bitterness is definitely rising in them, and I think this is because they know there movement is in its death throws. TAM I have to agree somewhat with this. There is an endless recycling of the same stuff over and over again, if anything, we might come across even more absurdity in already lunatic fringe theories. But thats it. What have the latest truther forum members brought here except anger and resentment? the bitterness is in leaps and bounds. I come back here now more for the laugh then anything else. I think the theories have become so unbelievable and impossible now that the movement itself is its own worst enemy. In all the theories and time since the event, the complaints about how long the investigation is taking and how its been done till now are endless from the truthers - the same mob that have NO coherent linear theory of the day. Every theory or buzz statement I hear from them contradicts another, yet a truther will embrace all theories as it supports the desired conclusion. The gage silent thermite/massive explosions arguement is just the latest. In all that time the supporting evidence for the official line seems to keep slowly growing, whilst the multiple theories of trutherville get more fractured by the day. And of course : LCFC has been a huuuuge success! I have to agree with the OP in regards to how I feel now....truthers are really starting to get boring! And very annoying. Cheers
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19th November 2007, 09:22 PM	#17
beachnut Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Dog House Posts: 19,901	Originally Posted by Alferd_Packer LV:FC is a bust. Truther shenanigans are down. No one is writing impassioned, but stupid letter to editors any more. Kevin Barrrett has to sunk to dancing around in a V mask. In short, the truthers are no fun any more. Most people are too polite and ignore the people who spew idiot ideas of 9/11 truth. It does seem boring with no new crazy ideas or new entertainers stepping into the dumb light of 9/11 truth. What is the next step for a the failed ideas of 9/11 truth? At least bigfoot followers are not blaming people for anything. Bigfoot, more "evidence" than 9/11 truth? so sad

19th November 2007, 09:23 PM	#18
NikZeta302 Scholar Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 66	Well the troofers know that there years as a united(kinda) force are near an end, when in 08 Bush leaves office for which ever Dem comes to power and most likely pulls our troops out of Iraq. No longer able to leach off of anti-war/Bush protesters they return to there holes.
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19th November 2007, 09:36 PM	#19
MetalliSociety Critical Thinker Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 329	Originally Posted by tomwaits Actually I'm from Chicago. I love wearing Bears gear around town and getting dirty looks. Or at least, I used to until this horrible season. Yeah I hear that. Grossman is back in there, so good luck to ya. BTW Welcome to the forums, and isn't Tom Waits that old musician that made an album full of pirate-esque music?
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19th November 2007, 10:09 PM	#20
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19th November 2007, 10:18 PM	#21
OldTigerCub Striped Shapeshifting Reptoid Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Steeler Nation, Pa. Posts: 1,633	Originally Posted by Sabrina Well, we're not at the true end yet... but we're well past the beginning of the end... The middle of the end? Your real name wouldn't happen to be Winston by any chance, would it?...nahhhhhh...good quote, though! I have to say that seeing the same arguments over and over, and none with any merit, is rather boring....I just wish troothers would come up with something new, but of course that is not likely to happen.
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19th November 2007, 10:29 PM	#22
OldTigerCub Striped Shapeshifting Reptoid Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Steeler Nation, Pa. Posts: 1,633	Originally Posted by The Doc I've actually been wanting to start a new debunking project/paper. The only thing that's stopping me is the fact that it's all been debunked before, and there is nothing new out there. The truth movement really is getting boring. It's kind of like debating a play by Shakespeare. The story can be annalyzed over and over, but the story is still the same and everyone knows how it turns out.
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19th November 2007, 10:33 PM	#23
The Doc Curing Stupidity Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,160	Originally Posted by OldTigerCub It's kind of like debating a play by Shakespeare. The story can be annalyzed over and over, but the story is still the same and everyone knows how it turns out. That's a damn good analogy
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19th November 2007, 10:55 PM	#24
tomwaits Master Poster Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Chicago, IL, USA Posts: 2,288	Originally Posted by MetalliSociety Yeah I hear that. Grossman is back in there, so good luck to ya. BTW Welcome to the forums, and isn't Tom Waits that old musician that made an album full of pirate-esque music? you mean the musician that's put out 20 amazing albums?!

19th November 2007, 11:12 PM	#25
MetalliSociety Critical Thinker Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 329	Originally Posted by tomwaits you mean the musician that's put out 20 amazing albums?! Yeah that's the man with the plan! Good stuff...
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20th November 2007, 04:20 AM	#26
JimBenArm Based on a true story! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 12,970	Oh, they're getting old, no doubt. There hasn't been anything new (not counting the truly insane notions like thermite shock tubes and such), the arguments are the same crap over and over again. I find myself spending much more time in other areas of the forum, because there just isn't anything here worthy of attention anymore.
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20th November 2007, 04:34 AM	#27
Father Dagon Graduate Poster Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Stockholm, Sweden, Mater Evropa, Sol-III Posts: 1,193	Originally Posted by NikZeta302 Well the troofers know that there years as a united(kinda) force are near an end, when in 08 Bush leaves office for which ever Dem comes to power and most likely pulls our troops out of Iraq. No longer able to leach off of anti-war/Bush protesters they return to there holes. Or not protesting at all when the Dems lets the islamofascists have a taste of Big Government, lol! Somebody should write a book about the twoofes, or has somebody already did?
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20th November 2007, 04:50 AM	#28
JAStewart Graduate Poster Tagger Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Shetland Islands Posts: 1,523	The best thing to come out of the Twoof movement is the video's of their outrageous quotes that we compile.
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20th November 2007, 04:51 AM	#29
JAStewart Graduate Poster Tagger Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Shetland Islands Posts: 1,523	Originally Posted by tomwaits you mean the musician that's put out 20 amazing albums?! I'll drink to that
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20th November 2007, 05:17 AM	#30
Father Dagon Graduate Poster Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Stockholm, Sweden, Mater Evropa, Sol-III Posts: 1,193	Originally Posted by JAStewart The best thing to come out of the Twoof movement is the video's of their outrageous quotes that we compile. Links for the lazy?

20th November 2007, 11:08 AM	#31
tomwaits Master Poster Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Chicago, IL, USA Posts: 2,288	hxxp://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2007/01/denier-quotes-of-year-all-nutty.html

20th November 2007, 11:15 AM	#32
Disbelief Master Poster Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,272	Originally Posted by tomwaits http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com...all-nutty.html Taken care of.
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25th November 2007, 04:00 PM	#33
PhantomWolf Philosopher Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Lost Deimos Moon Base Posts: 9,903	Originally Posted by OldTigerCub Your real name wouldn't happen to be Winston by any chance, would it?...nahhhhhh...good quote, though! I have to say that seeing the same arguments over and over, and none with any merit, is rather boring....I just wish troothers would come up with something new, but of course that is not likely to happen. We suffer from this with the Apollo Hoax loons. You get a new one on the hook and it's all , yeah let's get something great that'll make us think. You're all ready with the Video Footage DVD's primed, books open on the desk and the ALSJ DVD spinning in the Computer Drive when you see the end of the post. "There aren't any stars in the photos." At that point your heart sinks and you start to beat your head on the desk and cry knowing that it isn't going to get any better from there till they get themselves banned.
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25th November 2007, 04:03 PM	#34
defaultdotxbe Drunken Shikigami Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Dark Side of the Sun Posts: 7,482	Originally Posted by PhantomWolf We suffer from this with the Apollo Hoax loons. You get a new one on the hook and it's all , yeah let's get something great that'll make us think. You're all ready with the Video Footage DVD's primed, books open on the desk and the ALSJ DVD spinning in the Computer Drive when you see the end of the post. "There aren't any stars in the photos." At that point your heart sinks and you start to beat your head on the desk and cry knowing that it isn't going to get any better from there till they get themselves banned. jsut had this same feeling on the SLC forum, an apollo hoaxer whos been MIA for a while came back and i thought "oh cool, something non-9/11 to debunk" the crux of his post was "look at the flag waving"
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25th November 2007, 04:12 PM	#35
Architect Chief Punkah Wallah Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: UK Posts: 8,478	Originally Posted by PhantomWolf We suffer from this with the Apollo Hoax loons. You get a new one on the hook and it's all , yeah let's get something great that'll make us think. You're all ready with the Video Footage DVD's primed, books open on the desk and the ALSJ DVD spinning in the Computer Drive when you see the end of the post. "There aren't any stars in the photos." At that point your heart sinks and you start to beat your head on the desk and cry knowing that it isn't going to get any better from there till they get themselves banned. Agreed. I await a new and innovative argument. Hell, I await a decently presented argument!!
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25th November 2007, 04:22 PM	#36
Normal Dude Space Shuttle Door Gunner Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: W/ The Evil Council Posts: 3,959	I'm rather surprised I haven't seen a Truther who denies that the WTC was destroyed in the first place.
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